J. Wilfred Johnson
Feb. 16, 1983
Transcribed from C/D #60 & #61
November 6, 2013 thru November 15, 2013
tonight we will be beginning in The Desire of Ages near
the bottom of page 208 in the paragraph starting; "When Moses was about
to build the sanctuary." The next few paragraphs are very intense and I
wonder if you would permit me to just read those as I go along because
there are so many spots where I would like to stop and if someone is
reading I will have to wait until the paragraph is finished and it is a
little more awkward to come back to do it. And when we get into
something a little thinner again maybe we’ll revert to the other
method. I’m not trying to say that I am unhappy with your reading it’s
a matter of convenience in presenting the material.
Moses, when he was about to build the sanctuary, What for?
(A man) As a dwelling place for God.
(Wilfred) As a dwelling place for God. God doesn’t have a home? Doesn’t
He have a home?
(Same man) Maybe He wanted to dwell with us too.
(Wilfred) Just with us? He wants to dwell just with us?
(A woman) In us.
(Wilfred) In us! And this is where this idea of God is a spirit comes
in. Now don’t get the idea that God is not a personal being and He does
not have the mechanism of some kind of body but it is of a quality and
intensely powerful whatever, maybe big, I don’t know that it is not
practical for us to be able to look at Him. And the God that we are
privileged to see is the Son, Christ, and even He was too bright for
Moses to look at directly. But God is willing to come to be with us and
He can be with us by his Spirit, which is a mystery. But He can dwell
in us by his Spirit, which is even a deeper mystery I suppose we would
have to say. I want to get into this other area. A little more comment
on that perhaps later.
“When Moses was about to build the sanctuary he was directed to make
all things according to the pattern shown him in the mount." Now I
would like you to understand that there is a reason why God wanted this
particular pattern. God reveals Himself and exposes his thought by
means of little models. I sometimes call them sand-table displays, He
has a way of putting it into some tangible representation with the
parts of the thing having significant meanings, symbolic meanings. He
can thereby couch his truth in a manner that cannot easily be
understood by any, as we say, Tom, Dick, and Harry taking a peek at it.
There is no one who can really understand what God is teaching in his
book except with the aid of the Spirit of truth. And this puts the
devil and his angels at a disadvantage because they don’t have that
Spirit. And here is one of the purposes that God actually presents his
truth in similitude’s as He says in the Bible. So the sanctuary, the
tabernacle that they built has some significant things in it. We won’t
go into the details of them just bare it in mind that it does have
“Moses was full of zeal to do God’s work. The most talented, skillful
men were at hand to carry out his suggestions. Yet, he was not to make
a bell, a pomegranate, a tassel, a fringe, a curtain, or any vessel of
the sanctuary except according to the pattern shown him in the mount.
God called him into the mount and revealed to him the heavenly things.
The Lord covered him with his own glory that he might see the
pattern.” Interesting isn’t it? It sort of enveloped him. “And
according to it all things were made.” I have also thought of Moses
and his mind, he must have had a very clear mind and an excellent
memory. In those days I think they all had better memories than most of
us have today. They didn’t have written materials so most everything
was handed down from generation to generation and some of the
generations were several hundred years. So, now watch this, that word
“so”, here’s your comparison, “So to Israel whom He desired to make
his dwelling place,” See, not just the building but the
people. “He had revealed his glorious ideal of character,” Now what did
He reveal that in?
(Another man) He says his law…it’s referring back to his patterns…
(Wilfred) That’s right. It’s referring back to his pattern. “The
pattern was shown them in the mount when the law was given from Sinai
and when the Lord passed by before Moses and proclaimed; The Lord, the
Lord God, and here is his character; "merciful and gracious,
longsuffering” Those are all similar characteristics aren’t they? “And
abundant in goodness,” Just lots of goodness, “And truth, keeping mercy
for thousands, forgiving iniquity and
transgression and sin,” He wants to make sure you don’t
misunderstand what He is talking about; He gives it in three different
ways. He forgives iniquity, He forgives transgression, and He forgives
sin and they really are the same thing aren’t they?
“Israel had chosen their own ways they had not builded according to the
pattern.” Well, did they have the pattern? How much of the
pattern did they have? What does it say that their pattern refers to?
(Same woman) The Law.
(Wilfred) Noooo. Well, Ok. She doesn’t say that directly but she says
that the pattern was shown them in the mount when the Law was given
from Sinai. It’s involved, but before that I think it gives the idea,
(Another woman) When the Lord passed before Moses and told about his
(Wilfred) Yes, it’s in the sentence; “So to Israel, whom He desired to
make His dwelling place, He had revealed His” What?
(Same woman) His glorious ideal of character.
(Wilfred) His glorious ideal of character.
(Another man) They had it but they didn’t understand it.
(Wilfred) They didn’t understand it. Where did they slide down the
slide and lose sight of God, to a large extent?
(Same women) When they went into captivity.
(Wilfred) When they went into captivity in Egypt. So when God brought
them out this was one of the things that He needed a special point to
deal with and for them. He brought them into difficult situations,
impossible situations, and then bailed them out with the idea of
endeavoring to build their confidence in Him and to get to know Him
again. These characteristics of his, they needed to get to know those
again. Meanwhile what had they done? Well, they had chosen their own
ways. “They had not builded according to the pattern. But Christ,
the true temple for God’s indwelling.” Now memorize that statement.
Who is the true temple for God’s indwelling? What did Jesus say when He
was here? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father. Philip said, Lord,
well we’ve seen you but show us the Father. And Jesus couldn’t quite
see that he had not understood that. Don’t you know that my Father and
I, we’re alike? That I am revealing the Father and if you have seen me
you have seen the Father. They hadn’t grasped that.
Do you get the idea here and elsewhere that somehow God the Father
chooses to manifest Himself through another being? Do you see that?
Nobody has seen the Father at anytime, no man at least. And Jesus says
that no one has seen the Father, the Son only. And this temple that God
revealed Himself through was the Son Christ. Now does this just apply
at this point or has it always been like that?
(Another man) Well I think in a special way at this point because it
was a special pead (?) that man should understand but all through the
Biblical record Christ was revealing God to man and even before that
Christ was a revealer of God to the Angels.
(Wilfred) Do you think Lucifer had ever seen the Father?
(Same man) Well he stood in his presence, I don’t know about that.
(Wilfred) He stood in the presence of God.
(Same woman) He didn’t ask to take God’s place.
(Wilfred) No he didn’t. I think it is significant. What does the Bible
say about God? What are his characteristics?
(Same woman) He’s invisible.
(Wilfred) He’s invisible. Now does that just mean invisible to man or
does that mean invisible to anybody? Doesn’t it say something about
their angels behold the face of my Father or I’m I dreaming? I’d better
look that one up.
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Then again what does that mean? You see, you have to be very
cautious when you are dealing with some of these things. Do you
remember what Jesus said to the people when He was on the mount of,
what was the name of the mount where the beatitudes were given? Mount
of blessing? At least that is what it’s called. He said blessed are the
pure in heart for they shall see God. And we get the impression that
these are privileged people and they are actually going to see the
Father face to face and I have chatted with quite a few people who have
Now there is another statement and guess you just thought of it, huh?
(Another man) Jesus said if you have seen Me you have seen God.
(Wilfred) That’s right that’s what the Bible says. But there is another
statement and don’t ever depreciate these books like some people are
doing now days. Don’t do it. Because this is the lesser light that
leads to the greater light. If you can’t quite interpret what the
greater light is saying go into these and I think you’ll find it.
Because she says in connection with her comments on those blessings on
the mount, she says; they shall see God as Adam saw Him in the garden.
Now the Bible says specifically that no man had seen God at any time.
Did Adam see God?
(Same woman) No, he saw Jesus.
(Wilfred) Well she tells us. The God that Adam saw was Christ. Now I
thought for a while, before I came across all the statements on it, I
thought for a while that maybe, because I was looking for every
loophole I could find so I wouldn’t get caught making the wrong
statement. Maybe He saw both Christ and the Father. Because she talks
about that it was Christ that walked with Adam in the garden, in
another statement and I knew about that one. And I thought well if He
walked with Christ it’s possible that God was there and he saw God too.
But I never found anything that would indicate that he saw both of them
as two different persons. Do you understand what I am saying? So that
statement where she says that they will see Him as Adam saw Him in the
garden, that can’t mean anything else except Christ. When you take
everything that it says. When the Bible says that no man has seen Him
and He says if you’ve seen Me you’ve seen the Father. So he saw the
Father in the person of Christ.
Now I can’t resist repeating again what I’ve said before, I think these
things are so important that we need to get them and having taught for
so many years I did learn one thing; That is if you want people to
remember something you’ve got to keep hammering back on it. And what do
you think I’m going to say about this true temple of God, which is
Christ? What do you think I’m going to say? See if any of you remember.
I’ll put you on the spot here.
(Another man) The Spirit of Christ indwells us also.
(Wilfred) Can you go a little further?
(Same man) Christ is the head and we are the body.
(Wilfred) How about this one? It’s chapter 2 of Ephesians verse 18.
“For through him” Through whom? It’s talking about Christ. "We
both have access” That means we have access, both to, “By
one Spirit unto the Father.” What does that say? Do we have any
access to the Father even though He’s invisible?
(Same man) Yes, through the Spirit of Christ.
(Wilfred) Through Christ? And here it says by one Spirit. Now I’m going
to be commenting a little more on that. There are several places in the
Bible and the Spirit of
Prophecy where the Spirit is tied in with
Christ as well as with God and you mustn’t forget that.
19 “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow
citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;” And back in
verse 16 he talks about that He might be reconciled both unto God in
one body. Another place he makes it very clear that the body of Christ
is his church, see? And that of course can mean the body as a group of
people who speak of a body of people don’t we? But the Bible is unique
in that it contains in many, many, places deeper meanings, different
applications of the same passage to another situation where it has
another meaning. And this word “body” has a double meaning, I don’t
think it’s accidental. And we need to bear that in mind because as you
recall that Christ when He assumed humanity had to relinquish that
glorious body that He inhabited when Moses saw Him. He didn’t have that
any more when He was in that little cradle there in Bethlehem did He?
And in case you wondered what happened to this great body, which was an
eternal body, Jesus didn’t leave us destitute of information, in fact
the very last model that he created to teach before He went to his
second death on the cross. The very last night with his disciples He
explained, do you remember what He did? He broke the bread and said
this is my body which is broken for you and what was to happen to it?
(Same woman) You are supposed to eat it.
(Wilfred) You are supposed to eat it. And what about the wine? His
blood and what are you supposed to do with that?
(Same woman) Drink it.
(Wilfred) Now you know in the Old Testament it says on a number of
occasions that you don’t drink the blood. You mustn’t drink the blood.
Can you see a reason why God didn’t want them to drink the blood of
those animals? You would think that that would be a good teaching
devise. Ahhh but the blood of Christ is a very sacred thing, it is the
symbol of life. That is taught in the Old Testament. And what kind of
life did Christ have that was different from anybody else’s?
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Eternal life in himself. Where did He get it from?
(Same woman) From his Father.
(Wilfred) From the Father. As the Father has life in himself. What does
the Spirit of Prophecy
say is going to ultimately happen to that life?
Now I’ve got to go back further yet. What happens to the Spirit of life
when one dies?
(Same woman) It goes back to the Father who gave it.
(Wilfred) Now that’s the life that we have which is not life in
ourselves. Of course it’s a gift of God and I am not going to define it
in detail. But our life is conditional, what kind of life did Christ
(Same woman) Eternal life.
(Wilfred) He had unconditional eternal life. It was his, nobody could
take it from Him, He said that. I lay it down of myself and I can take
it again, it’s mine. Now when Adam died that breath of life that God
breathed into his nostrils which again is symbolic. It made him a
living soul right? He became a living soul. Now, when he died, what is
the terminology the Bible uses when a man died in those old days?
(Same woman) He gave up the Ghost.
(Wilfred) He gave up the Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of life. It
says about Jacob I think specifically when he gave these blessings to
his sons then when he was ready to die it says he gathered up his feet
into the bed and gave up the Ghost. And what does the Bible say happens
to that Spirit? It says it specifically and what happens to the Spirit?
It goes back to God who gave it.
Now where does Christ get his eternal life in himself from? According
to his own testimony?
(Same woman) From his Father.
(Wilfred) Now He was going to relinquish it, the Father wouldn’t take
it from Him, nobody could take it from Him, that’s what He said. He
said, I lay it down of myself. What happened to the life within himself
that Christ laid down? Well, it says here that He took the death which
was ours that we might receive the life which was his. Now what life
was this? His human life?
(Same woman) His eternal life.
(Wilfred) His eternal life. The human life you see wasn’t one of these
models again. Sure he laid down his human life and the Spirit returned
to God who gave it. But He couldn’t even lay down his human life, I
mean He couldn’t die in his humanity if He had remained immortal could
he? He had to separate from his eternal life in himself. And that’s why
there in Gethsemane and on the cross she speaks about how He felt his
unity with the Father breaking up, this is in The Desire of Ages way
over in page 687. He experienced the eternal death of the sinner “As the substitute and surety for sinful man, Christ was
suffering under the divine justice. He saw what justice meant. Hitherto
He had been as an intercessor for others; and now He longed to have an
intercessor for Himself.” Isn't that something?
“As Christ felt His unity with the Father broken up,” What happened
to his unity with Father? His oneness with the Father? The Father
dwelling in him so to speak?
(A man in the audience) They separated.
(Wilfred) They separated, why? So He could die in his humanity.
“As Christ felt His unity with the Father broken up, He feared that in
His human nature He would be unable to endure the coming conflict with
the powers of darkness.” Now do you get the significance of this?
did He have to face up to the powers of darkness alone in his humanity?
Well, while we’re on that I think we’d just better finish that
“He would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the powers of
darkness. In the wilderness of temptation the destiny of the human race
had been at stake. Christ was then conqueror. Now the tempter had come
for the last fearful struggle. For this he had been preparing during
the three years of Christ’s ministry. Who had been preparing? Satan.
Everything was at stake with him.” With who?
(Same woman) Satan.
(Wilfred) Satan. “If he failed here, his hope of mastery was lost; the
kingdoms of the world would finally become Christ's; he himself would
be overthrown and cast out.” So this meant everything to Satan. “But if Christ could be overcome, the earth would become Satan's
kingdom, and the human race would be forever in his power.” And
that’s another big one. That’s another big one! Would God deliberately
leave Satan to live eternally controlling this fallen earth? Well if
Christ had failed it says he came at the risk of failure and what?
(Same woman) Eternal lose.
(Wilfred) Well it doesn’t specify as to what that eternal lose is. But
this gives a little hint almost doesn’t it?
(Another man) There is another place where it says that if He had
failed the rebellion would have spread throughout the universe.
(Wilfred) All right. Now let me ask you a very pointed question. Do you
think that God did not have sufficient power to get rid of the devil?
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Then why would the devil become the eternal ruler of this
(Same woman) He never uses force to control people.
(Wilfred) Am I losing you?
(Same man) To the intellect of created beings would it not appear that
the devil is correct?
(Wilfred) Yes. If God had destroyed sinners anyway, what about all
those beings that He had previously created who haven’t yet got the
complete picture and who still remembered the things that Satan had
been saying? So here it is; it’s either let Satan continue and carry on
or destroy him and ultimately have to give up free-will beings.
(Same woman) So they really have a much clearer picture because
they know everything from the very beginning.
(Wilfred) The angels?
(Same woman) Yes, and peoples from other worlds.
(Wilfred) Yes and no. Nobody will have the experience of sin except
people in this world and the angels will have an inferior understanding
to what those who go through the final conflict will understand.
(Same woman) Except that we don’t have the minds that they do and we
can’t hold all this stuff in our minds at once.
(Many voices speaking at once)
(Same woman) They see the whole thing from the beginning to end and
they can see the issues and we just see, I’m just speaking for myself,
we just zero in on the immediate...
(Wilfred) That’s true.
(Another woman) There is no way that they would have any inking of the
attractiveness of sin because to them it would be repulsive but to us
it’s attractive. So there is no way that they could identify…
(Another man) But we’re redeemed, we not only have the experience but
the facility of the Holy Spirit working now and then that can make us
understand where they are incapable of understanding as I see it.
(Wilfred) Yes, we have to take into account the fact that God has
agreed in the Everlasting Covenant with his Son that if He came here
and succeeded in demonstrating that the combination of divinity and
humanity is capable of living God’s law and capable of recovering the
pure and holy nature of Adam before he fell that God would supply the
Spirit of Christ. He would make available to whomsoever Christ
interceded on behalf of. That’s what it says; the Father has turned all
judgment into the hand of the Son. The Son is the one that decides who
is going to receive his Spirit. The Father will cooperate with him and
Get the picture, which I am just going to read to you from Ephesians.
That former body and life-blood of the eternal Christ which He
relinquished when He became a human being and of which He partook as He
lived his human life in the same way that He will make available for
you and I to partake will become our permanent possession. We become
the new temple of God. Christ is the true temple of God. But the
Christ, that is the true temple of God laid down his eternal body and
blood to be distributed to his saints. They become members in the new
body of Christ, Paul talks about it. Members in particular of the body
of Christ. How much plainer can he be? And Jesus is the first begotten
the first born of the new body, the head and we are the members. And
the Spirit of Christ, the body and blood of that former structure that
He lived in that was the temple of God, the dwelling place of God,
becomes distributed among these people. And the body is to be married
to the head. You see the husband is the head of the body, Paul says.
And he says therefore shall a man leave Father and mother and cleave
unto his wife and they twain shall be one flesh. Paul says; this is a
great mystery but I speak concerning Christ and his church. And Sister
White verifies that the marriage of the Lamb is to be consummated
before the close of probation, which is now.
Now when does this integration of the saints become a part of the body
of Christ in it’s ultimate? I can answer, it’s in the Desire of Ages
and we are coming to it sooner or later. It is on page 386, here she is
talking about the crisis in Galilee, which is recorded in John chapter
6 in the Bible. And it says in there, I’d better read it even if it
takes me two nights to go through this. I think I should go through it.
He had just fed five thousand people I think it was, with five barley
loaves and two small fishes. They gathered up the fragments that
remained and they gathered up twelve baskets full, which is far more
than the original amount. And then when He talks to his disciples there
about this a little later; 32 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily,” Ahhhh I’d better go back a bit. This is, 22 “The day
following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw
that there was none other boat there, save that one whereunto his
disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into
the boat, but that his disciples were gone away alone. 24 When the
people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples,
they also took shipping and came to Capernaum, seeking Jesus. 25 And
when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto
him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither? 26 Jesus answered them and said,
Verily, verily, I say unto you, ye seek me, not because ye saw the
miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27
Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which
endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto
you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28 Then said they unto him,
What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?" See they
wanted to do these miracles like he could just speak and everything
happens. 29 “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of
God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” In fact that’s why
He was doing the miracles so they would believe. 30 “They said
therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then that we may see, and
believe thee? what dost thou work?” Isn’t that ridiculous, what did
they just see? 31 “Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is
written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.” Aren’t you going to
give us bread now so that we will know that you are the same one? Now
whatch what Jesus said. 32 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily,” When He says verily, verily, you can be sure it’s something
important. “I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from
heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the
bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto
the world.” Now what part of Christ is it that comes down from
heaven and gives life to the world?
(Same woman) The Spirit.
(Wilfred) The Spirit. 34 “Then said they unto him Lord, evermore
give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of
life:” So here was Jesus himself saying that He was the bread of
life. Now how could He say that?
(Another man) He in his humanity was the product of that Spirit.
(Wilfred) What initiated his birth?
(Same woman) The Holy Spirit.
(Wilfred) Oh, can I ask you who the Holy Spirit is? I guess I better
not. I’ll have to go on to another track to show you that. Maybe I
better just tell you that the Holy Spirit is intimately connected with
Christ. Some of you already have heard me out on this before but
because of the tape I’m repeating some things.
In John chapter 14 He identifies himself with the Holy Spirit if you
don’t believe it why don’t you just read it. Read it carefully and
you’ll see it.
I am going to read you some statements before the evening is over I
hope that will say it in so many words. That He identifies himself with
the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Christ that we are going to be reading
about here shortly again. The Spirit of Christ among other things is
that eternal life principle that He had in himself that He relinquished
and which went back to the Father. To make it a little easier to
understand I’ll give you a little more of the picture, which will
require proving in do time. But just put it in the pantry shelf if you
feel it’s a little far fetched but I know it’s correct. Because there
is a heavenly sanctuary and it wasn’t put up there for nothing. And
where was Christ when He relinquished that body and that blood? When He
shed that eternal life-blood and relinquished that body and then
appeared in a little tiny seed in Mary’s womb. Where was Christ? In
heaven and where is his dwelling place? Where does He live? What did
Christ show Moses on the mount?
(Same woman) The sanctuary.
(Wilfred) And what did He say it was for?
(Same woman) His dwelling place.
(Wilfred) His dwelling place. So where was He?
(Same woman) In the sanctuary.
(Wilfred) Now when He gave up his Ghost and shed his blood what did our
pioneers conclude was the outer court?
(Same woman) The earth.
(Wilfred) The earth. Because it was here that Christ shed his human
blood, but listen now don’t forget this, this is the model where is the
(Same woman) In heaven.
(Wilfred) In heaven. Did you ever wonder what that building was up
there for? Well, it’s the model in heaven and where was Christ when He
shed his eternal life-blood? And gave up his eternal body and went to
sleep. Where was He? In the court of the heavenly sanctuary. Because
it’s in the court where the animal is slain and sheds its blood. Did
you get that? And we are going to know that this actually did take
place up there because He called two witnesses up there from this earth
to see it. And He says that He is going to send one of them back to
talk about it. But it’s going to go further than that. Throughout
eternity God is going to have witnesses that will verify what happened.
Now I’m going to point you to some statements I hope will help you
understand this. In the Everlasting Covenant, which was the last will
and testament of Christ, which anybody who has possessions always makes
out before he dies, right? And stipulates what's going happen to his
wealth and his treasures and everything he owns. Let me repeat just a
little bit there so we can get it on the tape.
Before a man dies he makes out his last will and testament, which
stipulates what is to become of his possessions. Christ was going to
die and He had great possessions and one of the greatest that He had
was the fact that He had this tremendous body which couldn’t die and
which had the Spirit of eternal life in itself, He possessed it. And
the only way that Christ could go to sleep would be to relinquish those
possessions. Plus his title to the entire universe, He created it all.
He appointed an executor of his estate like you always do in your will.
Who is the executor of the estate of Christ?
(Same woman) God the Father.
(Wilfred) God the Father. So where did Christ’s possessions go, into
whose trust were they placed when He relinquished his life in heaven?
Back to the Father, it says so; it says He gave back the scepter into
the Fathers hand. And it says that the Spirit of life, the Ghost of
life, returns to God who gave it. And it says that God gave Him
his life in himself so when He died where did it go? Are you getting
Now where is the Spirit of Christ resident? Yes, I guess we can’t
really put it too specifically. But the part I was looking for was, in
who’s trust is the spirit of Christ? And where was Christ the person
after that had been accomplished?
(Same woman) He wasn’t.
(Wilfred) He wasn’t. And yet He was because He was eternal. Now here is
a mystery that you are going to have a little difficulty getting
around. But I’m going to try to give you the facts and suggest to you
how it is and you may or may not want to accept. But I’ll tell you one
thing; I have done an awful lot of thinking about it and checking for
many years and I haven’t found anything that answers the questions
The eternal life Spirit of Christ went back to the Father. Now I’m
going to read something I think will prove it to you. Let me first show
you in John chapter 6
what He says. 48 “I am that bread of life.” Now
here was this man in humanity saying; “I am the bread of life.” Who was
this person? Christ, before Abraham was, I am. Now I can’t explain it
because I don’t know who I am even, let alone who He was. I don’t know
what I am I just know that I’m a being and I’m consciences, I can see
you and talk to you and think. But I don’t really know what I am. Do
you know what you are? But if Christ’s possessions included a body and
blood that was internal and couldn’t die and it had a memory and a mind
that was the sum total of all the things that had ever happened in the
universe, I am the truth. What is the truth? It’s the record of
everything that has ever happened. You see, everything that happens is
the truth, right? And where was everything that ever happened
(Another man) In the mind of Christ.
(Wilfred) How do you know that? He was omnipotent, omniscient,
omnipresent the whole bit and it was eternal. So it still existed, but
where was it? In the bosom of the Father.
Now don’t take me too literal here but I have to say this; Christ was
called the Son of God before He became a man and that has got to mean
something. And if He was the Son of God and He was eternal and in his
divinity He could not die. Where was He when that little seed turned up
in Mary’s womb?
(Same woman) A spirit.
(Wilfred) Was He? Is the Holy Spirit a person or is it a thing?
(Same woman) It’s a person.
(Wilfred) The Bible calls it ‘it’ and it also calls it ‘he’. So it’s
got to be both. Sister White warns us to remember that the Spirit; the
Holy Spirit is as much a person as Christ. Well could it not be true
that if this body of Christ could not die and the life was ever living
then that is an eternal thing, right? Now if the person involved in
that thing goes to sleep, if that person was resident in that little
thing in Mary’s womb and in that little baby in that manger was that
little mind capable of encompassing the totality of that former body
and blood? No! But what was resident in that little human body? The
personality, whatever it is, the pattern, the ingredients of this
person were there. The nucleus that could develop into this human who
could say; I am the Son of God who came down from heaven. Isn’t that
something? But what about this Spirit, this body that was eternal and
couldn’t go out of existence? It had to remain in the custody of the
Now I’m going to just jump to a conclusion here just to save a little
time. And we can think on it and some day when we get up yonder we can
verify whether it is right or wrong. But there is enough information in
the Bible and the Spirit of
Prophecy to convince me that that entity is
what the Bible calls the Holy Ghost. A ghost you see is that which
remains, the spirit of someone who has passed on, remains, the ghost.
Do you understand what I’m trying to say?
Now I know that the word translated ghost in the Bible is the same as
spirit at least in some places. But don’t we call ghosts spirits too?
Don’t they think of these spirits that manifest themselves today as
being the spirits of people who have died? It’s the spirit of somebody
who has died. We know it isn’t, it’s the devil’s counterfeit because
they are asleep. But there is an element there. God has a complete
record of your life and He is going to reproduce it in the body, so
there is something left over of yours but as far as you are concerned,
I’m talking about after you die, as far as you are concerned you are
not conscience in that thing. Do you understand what I’m saying? And
neither was Jesus Christ conscience in that spiritual body and blood
that He relinquished, He was asleep. He died the first death the death
from which there is a resurrection. When He relinquished his eternal
life-blood in the heavenly sanctuary in the midst of the week of seven
thousand years if the parallel holds true. Which was prior to the time
He came in the form of Jesus in this world. And it may be significant
that there is a period of about four to five hundred years in there
before Jesus showed up in this world, when there were no messages
from Christ through the prophets. And if you count back you’ll find
that that was in the midst of the seven thousand year week of this
earth’s history. It’s rather interesting.
The first thing the Father did with that body and blood was to send it,
you see He is the administrator of the estate now, to send it to
initiate the seed. Do you understand? In Bethlehem? And then the
anointings of the Spirit, the special big anointing that He got at his
baptism and He became the Messiah. This was for his initial work
although He already proved the character of God during his infancy and
childhood and that’s what He came to do. To show that the character of
God is capable of keeping a human being from sin. That’s what it
Let me read here. 35 “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life:
he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me
shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me,
and believe not. 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and
him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down
from heaven,” This is the person of Christ. “Not to do mine own
will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's
will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should
lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” Who
gave Christ his converts?
(The end of C/D #60 and the beginning of C/D #61)
(A man in the audience) The Father.
(Wilfred) Who is going to raise them up?
(A women in the audience) Christ.
(Wilfred) Whose power is He going to use to do it?
(Same women) His power that He gave to the Father.
(Wilfred) Yes. He says I’ll raise you up. Where did He get the power?
(A man in the audience) His Father gave it to him in the first place.
(Wilfred) His Father gave it to Him in the first place. So whose power
is it? It’s God’s but it is also Christ’s. Whose power do you operate
(Same women) God’s
(Wilfred) God’s, but whose power is it?
(Several voices at once) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) It’s both yours and his. But when God gives you something, do
you know what the Bible says? It says; The gifts and callings, I think
that is the way it says it, of God are without repentance. What does
(Same women) He doesn’t take them back.
(Wilfred) He doesn’t take them back. Now, we separate ourselves from
God by sin. How did Jesus become separated from his Father in
Gethsemane? He was no sinner but He bore our sins and that is what
brought the cleavage. You cannot have eternal life without a correct
connection with God. Unless and until the Father gives you life in
yourself as He gave the Son and then you cannot lose your life
excepting as you voluntarily lay it down. So moving on. And this is the
Fathers will that I should lose none. John 6:40 “And this is the
of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth
on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last
day.” Now watch. Next verse. 41 “The Jews then murmured at him,
because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.” Can’t
you just see it? 42 “And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son
of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that he
saith, I came down from heaven?” Well what would you say if somebody
came around and said He was the Son of God and He could perform
miracles? 43 “Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur
not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which
hath sent me draw him:” In other words, there is nobody saved
without the drawing power of God and that comes through the Spirit too,
incidentally. “And I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is
written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man
therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto
me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God,
he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me hath everlasting life.” If you believe on Him what
is the situation you’re in?
(A man) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) In what sense do you have it?
(A women) In obedience?
(Wilfred) That takes a few words to answer that one. But it says you
have it doesn’t it? Would you be happy with this; That you have
delivered to you a measure of the Spirit of Christ which contains the
principle of life in itself which when He anoints you with, you do have
eternal life. Not that you have it permanently. You have eternal life
in the sense that you now have the Spirit of the eternal Christ by
measure. You have not the whole loaf but He broke it and gave you a
piece. I don’t know how else to put it.
He says in the very next verse; 48 “I am that bread of life. 49 your
fathers did eat manna in the wilderness.” And what happened to them?
Well they are dead. 50 “This is the bread which cometh down
from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.” Now what’s He
saying? Don’t you die? Ok, you die in a similar way that Christ went to
sleep; you’re going to come up again, right? Look, you die every night,
in a sense, don’t you? As far as your concerned you’re just not there,
not until you wake up again. Your body is still there it’s still
living. Well, isn’t that exactly what happened to Jesus Christ? He went
to sleep, his body was still living it was an eternal body, this living
bread. I know there are some questions here but I’m going to read the
key to solving this in just a moment. 51 “I am the living
bread which came down from heaven, if any man eat of this bread, he
shall live for ever:” What did He teach his disciples at the last
supper? That this bread is his body and you are to eat it. And what is
that going to do to you? You’re going to have eternal life. “And the
bread that I will give is my flesh,” Now is He talking about his
physical flesh in humanity? Are we cannibals? What happened to that
flesh? Well, it came out of the tomb on the resurrection morning and was
translated and He is still living in it. The flesh of what body did He
(Another man) His former body.
(Wilfred) Why sure. “Which I will give for the life of the world.” Now
which body is it then that He is going to give for the life of
the world? The one that is in the trust with the Father according to
the terms of his last will and testament the Father is going to
deliver. Now who is the Father going to deliver it to?
(Same woman) To his children.
(Wilfred) And who are they? Who is the judge?
(Same woman) Jesus Christ.
(Wilfred) It’s in our reading here, I read it. The Father has turned
all judgment into the hand of the Son. And where is the Son now?
(Another man) In the sanctuary.
(Wilfred) In the sanctuary and what’s He doing?
(Same man) His Judgment.
(Wilfred) Let’s go back to the holy apartment first. What did He do
first? When He ascended to heaven?
(Same woman) He went into the sanctuary.
(Wilfred) Which apartment?
(Same woman) First apartment.
(Wilfred) And what was He doing?
(Same man) Pleading.
(Wilfred) Interceding. What for?
(Another woman) The Spirit.
(Wilfred) Ahhhh, you got it. What was it that the Father had that He
wanted his people to have?
(Same woman) His Spirit.
(Wilfred) His Spirit. So He was pleading; "My blood, My blood Father".
Now get it. Blood, you ever wonder what that meant? The life. Where was
that life? In the hands of the Father. That’s why He says, "My blood, My
blood Father." That’s why He says you have to drink my blood; you must
absorb my Spirit of life. Don’t you see? So He is the intercessor and
He prays the Father. He says; send that Spirit to Wilf Johnson I want
him to have it. The Father says, Oh, but he is a big sinner. Jesus says
I’ll take care of him. I’ll be responsible for his sins, send him my
Spirit, he needs it. And the Father is the administrator of the estate
but He committed all judgment into the hands of the Son. And whatsoever
the Son asks the Father, the Father will do it. In fact He says
whatever you pray for in my name I will do it, the Father will do it.
52 “The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this
man give us his flesh to eat?” Have you said that? It’s nonsense it
doesn’t make sense. 53 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily,
verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and
drink his blood, ye have no life in you.” Don’t you see what He is
saying? That flesh is still his. He can still return to his former body
and blood and live again. He has merely died the death of sleep from
which there is a hope of a resurrection. And that’s where the
Gethsemane experience takes on a new significance. Because at this
point He is dying the second death the eternal death of the sinner from
which there is no hope of a resurrection. Now I don’t know if you
realize what that implies.
(Same woman) His Father had to leave Him. He could never be the same,
He could never return to his same body.
(Wilfred) Be careful. All power is given to me in heaven and earth. I
lay down my life nobody takes it away from Me. I have power, all power,
to take it again. But do you know what she says? He came forth from the
tomb to life in himself. But she doesn’t stop there. He took it to
give. I don’t know whether I can be really detailed here or not. But
you know what He said to his disciples on that last supper which gives
me the key? He said; I will not again partake of this until I partake
of it anew with you in the kingdom. And the Kingdom is restored,
according to Early Writings
before the close of probation. And that’s
when the marriage takes place. Now get it, just get it. He came forth
to life in himself. But He did not retain it. He came forth to give it.
It was his. God never takes it away from anybody. You see, He gave it
to his Son it was life in his self it was his. And the Son made out the
covenant. So in the most holy apartment, what’s He doing? Judgment,
testing characters, and praying his Father for the Spirit. And what’s
going to happen to that nucleus of people during the final conflict who
go through those final tests and prove that they will live according to
God’s law. What’s coming on those people? The final outpouring of the
latter rain. The final outpouring of the measures of the Spirit. So far
they have been getting it by measure, do you understand?
Now when the final outpouring comes. Don’t you see what that means? It
means the body and blood of Christ has now become one flesh with his
saints, the marriage of the Lamb to the New Jerusalem. The church is
the Lambs wife. The bride of the Lamb. She says it. Did you see that?
And when the head is connected with the body and the Spirit is now in
the total body as it was in the body of Christ originally. But now the
body is made up of one hundred and forty four thousand saints. The
living saints she says one hundred and forty four thousand in number
and you can believe that to be literal or as many as you like, but it
sounds very literal to me. The head and the body become one flesh the
marriage of the Lamb is consummated. The subjects of the Kingdom are
made up, she says. Probation closes.
Now do you see the significance of the sanctuary? Oh, I am giving you
an awful lot tonight.
Destroy this temple, Jesus said, and in three days I will raise it up.
What temple? It has several applications. But let’s take the big temple
that He lived in. He relinquished it in the midst of the week and in
three days, it’s speaking of the thousand year days, you still come out
even. On the third day He raises it up. What temple? The temple of his
body. What body? Well the one that went back to the Father and which He
is distributing to his saints to eat and drink.
There is more in chapter 6, you can read it, we’re running out of time.
Let me read now from page 386 The
Desire of Ages.
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) He’s raising it up now. His people. See?
(Same woman) Is this the third day?
(Wilfred) Isn’t it? Seven thousand years in the midst of it you’ve got
3½ thousand, one comes out for the millennium isn’t that the third day?
"Then said Jesus unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave
you not that bread from heaven." It wasn’t Moses that did this. “The giver of the manna was standing among them.” She says. Now
watch. “It was Christ Himself who had led the Hebrews through the
wilderness, and had daily fed them with the bread from heaven.” Who
did that? Christ himself. Now watch. “That food was a type of the
real bread from heaven. The life-giving Spirit, flowing from the
infinite fullness of God,” Is what? “Is the true manna.” And she goes on to point out, “Jesus said, the bread of God
is that which cometh down out of heaven, and giveth life unto the
Then in the next paragraph it identifies it as I am the bread of life
the true manna. Now I don’t know whether you get this out of this
passage or not but I get it. It essentially says that the Holy Spirit
is the life of Christ. It’s the blood of Christ, his eternal life
Spirit. That Spirit which could not die, which had all consciousness,
all knowledge, all wisdom, but it was in a sense not the person of
Christ anymore because the person of Christ was the little boy Jesus.
And yet Jesus could say, I am before Abraham was. I am and He’s talking
about the Spirit that was Him.
Now go to John
chapter 14; I think this will help you put it together.
You may think that I’m just talking through my hat here but I’m trying
to account for all the pieces that are there.
John chapter 14:15,
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” And if
you do that what’s going to happen? 16 And I will pray the Father,” Who is the "I"?
(Same woman) Christ.
(Wilfred) Jesus. I like to say Jesus when we are talking about the
human on this earth and Christ when we talk about the heavenly. It
makes it a little easier although they overlap. 16 “And I will pray
the Father, and He” Who is that?
(Same woman) The Father.
(Wilfred) The Father. “Shall give you another Comforter,” Now who
is the "another comforter"?
Verse 26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the
Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things,” Now He
almost talks about this as being apart from himself, doesn’t He?
Now watch, let’s go back to 16 “And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you”, for how
(Several voices at once) Forever.
(Wilfred) So when God gives you this Spirit that gift is without
repentance. It’s yours for eternity. 17 “Even the Spirit of truth;
whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither
knoweth him: but ye know him for he dwelleth with you, and shall be”, where?
(Another man) In you.
(Wilfred) In you. Now listen. 18 “I will not leave you comfortless:” And what is the next word?
(Same woman) I will come.
(Wilfred) “I will come to you.” Where is Jesus now?
(Same woman) In us.
(Another man) In heaven.
(Wilfred) In heaven. Then what’s He saying when He says I will come to
you? But, do you see that He doesn’t say, I will send my Spirit and He
will take my place. He says that further up, He says I’ll pray the
Father and He’ll send you another comforter which is the Holy Ghost, So
He says that. But what does He say here? I will come. Now what is He
doing? He is identifying himself with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit,
and I just read you that from the
Desire of Ages, is the living manna
that came down from heaven. Isn’t that what it said? It is the Spirit.
Isn’t that what it said? The life-giving Spirit, the real bread from
And what did Jesus say? “I am the living bread.” Now do you get the
connection? Can you fathom this? Can you span it? Is it possible for
you to put those pieces together? Here is the total unit of the eternal
Christ his body and blood with all of the knowledge and wisdom, with
all of the gifts that it had it becomes an entity which is identified
with Christ but it is not the conscious person of Christ as an
individual, He is asleep and He grows up into a knowledge of himself
knowing who He is. He is anointed with the Spirit of his former self
and He becomes not only Jesus, but Christ, and they are one! At the
cross or Gethsemane there is a break and for the second time He lays
down his eternal life. But that eternal life does not die it stays.
And in the sanctuary He intercedes and that life, that living bread,
that manna, comes down from heaven and He says I’ll pray the Father
and He’ll send Him, the living bread. He will abide with you and shall
be in you forever.
I don’t know how else to put it. The Holy Spirit is a person, but what
does the Bible say about it? He shall not speak of himself. In other
words He’s not going to direct his own affairs. He is a robot kind of
thing. Whatsoever He hears, that He will speak. I can’t explain or
answer every question that you can ask because I don’t understand it
and we are told that we will not understand the mystery of the Holy
Spirit. But I can point you to some things that lead me to say what I
have told you. You may not be able to put it all together. I can’t, I
can only say certain things. And one of them is in The Desire of Ages
page 805, “The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul.
impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.”
Now could that be any plainer? Could it? Page 671, “Through
the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature.”
You’re eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the Son of God.
Ok, now here is one; The
Desire of Ages
827, “All who consecrate soul,
body, and spirit to God will be constantly receiving a new endowment of
physical and mental power. The inexhaustible supplies of heaven are at
their command.” Fantastic. Note the next. “Christ gives them the
breath of His own spirit, the life of His own life.” Do you get the
significance? Note the very next sentence. “The Holy
Spirit puts forth its highest energies to work in heart and mind.” You
see she just doesn’t come right out and say that the Holy Spirit
and Christ are identified, but she puts them so close together. But
wait until you hear the next one.
I have here the one that I just read from the same book page 386. “The
life-giving Spirit flowing from the infinite fullness of God is the
true manna. Jesus said, “The bread of God is that which comes down out
of heaven and giveth life unto the world.”
Now, I’ve got so many of them here I don’t want to read you them all.
Just be tolerant with me for a moment. I know I have it here somewhere.
The Desire of Ages 388, “It is through the Spirit that Christ
us. And the Spirit of God received into the heart by faith, is the
beginning of the life eternal.” This is what I was telling you
before, when do you have eternal life? When do you partake of eternal
life? When you partake of the Spirit. And when you begin partaking of
the Spirit at your conversion when you accept the Lord Jesus Christ. So
if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ the Bibles says you have
eternal life. In what sense do you have it? And I asked you that
question before, now I think you can answer it. You have it when you
partake of the Spirit.
(Same woman) You know I have read that someplace in one of the Bible
Commentaries that said, if we longed for the word of Christ, if
longed for this then we can know that Christ has already begun his
work in our hearts.
(Wilfred) That’s right.
(Same woman) I love that, that’s so beautiful.
(Wilfred) Here is another one I want to read to you. From Thoughts From
the Mount of Blessing page 55. “If they would open their hearts
to receive Christ,” And I just read to you how you receive Him. By
his Spirit, right? “Then the very life of God,” What is the
life of God? His Spirit. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Do
you know what the very life of God is here? “His love," is what she
says. “Would dwell in them, transforming them into His own
likeness;” Listen, and what does the Bible say about the Spirit and
love. It says that the love of God is shed abroad in the heart by the
Holy Ghost, which is given to us. So it all ties together. The life,
the love, and the blood, the bread, if you take that key that the blood
represents the life of Christ you will understand the sanctuary service
a lot better. How is the sin that you confess transferred to the
sanctuary by the sprinkling of blood? How does that happen? Can’t you
see that when you accept the Lord Jesus Christ you then become a member
in the new temple of God, his body of saints, this is his mystical body
and she says in the SDA
Bible Commentary that this new body is built up
of the redeemed from the earth, right? When you become a member in that
new body which is now the temple of God where He dwells which is
Christ’s body don’t you see how that Christ is bearing in his own body
your sins? And how is it that you become a member? By the Spirit which
is the blood. You become a member, you partake of the Spirit and the
divine nature when you become a member. And your sin that is written in
your body becomes a part of the body of Christ, the true temple. So
your sin is recorded in the body of Christ. And do you know what it
says? It says He destroyed sin in the flesh. And isn’t He now going to
be cleansing the temple, the most holy apartment of the temple by the
sprinkling of blood. How is He going to do that? Oh it is simple.
(Another man) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) You’ve got it brother. As the cleansing takes place in the
model in heaven above a parallel cleansing is to take place in the soul
temple, a work of purification here on earth. And I can read you
statements that say that you cleanse your own soul temple. I could read
you statements that say you can’t do it the Holy Spirit cleanses your
soul. And I could show you how that there are two levels of cleansing.
You can only use your free choice to cleanse your temple by obedience,
when you quit sinning you are cleansing and purifying your soul temple.
But you can’t cleanse the heart and the nature but when you do the
obeying then you receive of the latter rain Spirit. That’s a condition
of receive it. And the latter rain transforms the nature, purifies the
soul and the heart. And cleanses you from all defilement so that your
nature is changed back into the sinlessness of Adam before his
transgression. I gave you a mouth full.
Now I want to read you that statement that she says which identifies
the life of Christ with the Holy Spirit. I read you the one about the
Holy Spirit is the breathe of the spiritual life in the soul. The
impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It
is through the Spirit that Christ dwells in us and the Spirit of God
received into the heart by faith is the beginning of life internal.
And the one about fully receiving Christ. You get his love that is his
life and it transforms us into his own likeness.
Here, Review and Herald
May 1904. This one was quoted in the Sabbath
School lesson quarterly in 1973. The regular Sabbath School Quarterly.
“Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church,
as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place.” And
I just read you that from John
chapter 14. “This Comforter is the
Holy Spirit - the soul of his life,” God breathed into Adam’s
nostrils the breathe of life and Adam became a... What gave Adam his
living soul? The breath of life. What is the Holy Spirit relative to
(Another man) What gave him his life?
(Wilfred) It is the Spirit that gave him his life in himself, right?
And it says that it is the soul of his life. So when He relinquished it
then Jesus no longer had that, right? Until He partook of it again. But
He partook of it again right from the initiation of his birth, but it
came by measure. It is impossible for the fullness of the former body
and blood of Christ to possess one single human being. He partook of it
but He could have gone back to it. But He gave himself to humanity
forever and He is sharing that body with his saints.
Back in Ephesians
there where we got off onto these other avenues and
bringing in other ingredients. Chapter 2 verse 19; “Now therefore ye
are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the
saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the
foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the
chief corner stone 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together
groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:” You see where the Lord is
building his temple again? He said destroy this temple and in three
days I will build it up. He is building a new temple. 22 “In whom ye
also are builded together” What for? “For an habitation of
God” God wants to dwell in this new temple. And what aspect of God
or what part is going to dwell in that temple? “Through the Spirit.”
Whose Spirit is this? It is the Spirit of God right? Who had God’s
Spirit besides the Father?
(Same woman) Jesus.
(Wilfred) And what was it called in connection with Christ? And I was
just going to bring you to that. It’s on page 209 in The Desire of
Ages. We had just been reading it at the top of the page there
while back. “So to Israel, whom He desired to make his dwelling place,
He had revealed his glorious ideal of character. The pattern was shown
them in the mount when the law was given from Sinai, and when the Lord
passed by before Moses and proclaimed, "The Lord, The Lord God,
merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and
truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and
transgression and sin."
Israel had chosen their own ways, they had not builded according to the
pattern; but Christ, the true temple for God's indwelling molded every
detail of his earthly life in harmony with God's ideal.” And what
does He want us to do? The same thing. Why did He do it? As an example
to us so that we might become included in his new temple, He being the
head and we being the members. He is sharing that former body and
blood, the true manna, for us to eat and drink and become a part of his
new temple. But that temple has to be cleansed and here is the
significance of the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary from all
defilement, the sins that have been polluting the sanctuary. I explained
to you how that when we become members of the body Christ when we come
in at conversion and are accepted into his family. We carry with us
through the agency of the Spirit we become a member and we are tied in
by the Spirit, the blood see, the new body, so our sins are transferred
to the new body by the sprinkling of blood do you understand? The
life-blood of Christ that He shed. And we tap into that and we have
eternal life flowing through us through our spiritual aspect, do you
understand? We now have a spiritual nature as well as a cardinal nature.
Let me read on now. “He said, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God:
yea, Thy law is within My heart." Ps. 40:8.” Now watch. “So our
characters are to be builded "for an habitation of God through the
Spirit." She is now commenting on that very text that I just read. “And
we are to "make all things according to the pattern," even Him
who "suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow His
“The words of Christ teach us that we should regard ourselves as
inseparably bound to our Father in heaven.” What is the connecting
(Another man) The blood.
(Wilfred) The blood. The Spirit. “Whatever our position, we are
dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands.” And it
just comes to my mind that in taking on himself humanity He has
indesolvably connected us with himself. We become connected with
Christ. He has bound himself to humanity by a tie that cannot be broken
and in doing this He has given us access to the Father. You know? It’s
all in there. Now listen. “He has appointed us our work, and has
endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we
surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom,”
What’s the condition now? “Surrender the will to God,” Now I have
explained what surrender is; when you want to do this and God wants you to
do that, surrender means that you do that and you don’t do this. You do
what God asks you to do not what you want. That’s surrender. “And trust
in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths,” Do
you see we are going to get input from the Spirit? We will get impulses,
we will get attitudes, and feelings, and desires, and likes, our hearts
will go out after righteousness.
We will want to do the right things we
won’t hate them anymore. Transformation of the nature so that we love
to do the right things and in doing those things that God wants us to
do we are but doing the things we want to do anyway. Or put it the
other way around in doing the things that we feel like doing we are
doing exactly what God wants us to do. Because our feelings are now
back in harmony with God’s feelings. We are going to talk about that
someday, feelings and that is the final atonement, the final
at-one-ment, the restoration of the sinlessness of Adam before he fell.
“We shall be guided in safe paths to fulfill our appointed
part in His great plan. But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and
power,” Listen to what he is doing. “Is separating himself
from God.” How do you break your connection with God? By depending
on your own wisdom. What’s the key to connecting with God?
(Another man) Surrender and trust.
(Wilfred) Surrender and trust. Yes, you’ve got it.
(Same woman) Would you define trust?
(Wilfred) Trust? Well it’s just confidence. Jesus told Peter to come
walk on the water. Would you do it?
(Same man) But you can’t trust until you know.
(Wilfred) But you can’t trust until you know. But He asked him to come.
There is a distinction between faith and presumption you know. ….
“Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose
of the enemy of God and man.”
“The Saviour continued: "What things soever He [the Father] doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise. . . . As the Father raiseth up the
dead, and quickeneth them;” Who does it? “Even so the Son
quickeneth whom He will." Now, we have just been talking about
spiritual regeneration or reform or resurrection, you see? And who is
it that brings us this spiritual life, restores this Spiritual
sinlessness and reforms the heart and changes the heart, who is it?
Christ through his Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit. “So the Son
quickeneth whom He will” In that sense. But listen to what else it
says, now, “The Sadducees held that there would be no resurrection
of the body; but Jesus tells them that one of the greatest works of His
Father is raising the dead,” Now what is she talking about for sure?
(Same woman) The physical raising.
(Wilfred) The physical raising of the dead. “And that He Himself has
power to do the same work.” Did He prove that?
(Several voices at once) Yes!
(Several voices) Lazarus.
(Wilfred) But one difference. The body was still there. Mind you it had
been four days. But it could have been miraculously preserved in as
much as it could have been miraculously raised or it could have been
decaying and still raised. I am not going to judge. But I know that my
father’s body and my mothers are down there in the grave in Calgary,
they’re all rotted, there is nobody there, there is nothing to work
with. But they are going to be raised from the dead. Do you believe
The hour is coming, oh I want to make a comment; who was it that raised
Jesus from the dead? The Father. What power raised Jesus from the dead?
Well the power of the Spirit. Who’s Spirit? That’s the statement and it
wasn’t you that I was thinking that maybe I am going to have to back
up. I cannot bring it to mind where it is. I stated that He came forth
from the grave by a power inherent in himself. I don’t know where it
is, am not sure I can find it. And it's maybe that I came to a conclusion
without realizing that, you know, sometimes your mind jumps to
something and you think that you read it but you didn’t.
(Same woman) I think there is a statement like that.
(Wilfred) I think there is but I don’t know where it is, I can’t find
it. But anyway, maybe it doesn’t really matter. But the Spirit of God
and the Spirit of Christ are very closely related. There is an entity
known as the Holy Spirit it is never spoken of as a separate person
prior to that experience that I mentioned in the sanctuary. At lest I
haven’t found it. At the creation it speaks about the Spirit of God
moving upon the face of the waters. We jump to the conclusion that’s
the Holy Spirit, see? Which it is, but it doesn’t ever say that this is
a separate person personality functioning independently. Does it say
that anyplace? I haven’t found it. Have you ever found in any place
where Sister White deals with the conference between the Father and the
Son? Have you ever found where it speaks about the Holy Spirit there
too as a separate entity? The Father and the Son had a conference,
there was no Spirit mentioned. Where was the Spirit?
(Same Man) It was a part of the Father and the Son.
(Wilfred) It was a part of the Father and the Son. It was their
inherent spirit just like you have your spirit of life. Not until
Christ relinquished that Spirit in the heavenly sanctuary and it could
not die and go out of existence, did it remained as an entity that was a
replica of the eternal Christ but not the person of Christ? Do you
understand? The person of Christ was Jesus here on earth there were not
two Christs and yet Jesus could identify himself with that Spirit. I
will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you, because that was
Him that was the true manna that came down from heaven. I know it’s a
little tough. But let me just finish this page.
"The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of
the Son of God:” Well I could dwell on that. How can the dead hear
the voice of the Son of God when they’re dead? Ok, you say it doesn’t
mean that. It means that the dead after they are risen will hear the
voice of the Son of God. But that is not what it says. It says that the
dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth. Isn’t that
what it says or something to that effect.
(Many voices at once) Yes.
(Wilfred) It sounds like they live after they hear, right? Now I’m not
going to dwell with this because I believe that this is just another
one of those statements that we accept the literal meaning, it’s close
enough that we accept it even though it is not precisely accurate
because the dead cannot hear the voice before they live. You see if He
calls them while they are still dead and they hear the voice then they
must be alive before they hear the voice because the dead can’t hear.
Do you understand what I am saying? Well I don’t want to dwell on it. I
don’t think it is an important point at this stage. But I think it is
an important point a little later on when we come to some other
topics. “The Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead.
Christ declares that even now the power that gives life to the dead is
among them, and they are to behold its manifestation. This same
resurrection power is that which gives life to the soul, "dead in
trespasses and sins." What was I talking about a few minutes ago?
That it is the same Spirit, same power that deals with the spiritual
regeneration, see? In here she says it, that same resurrection power is
that which gives life to the soul dead in trespasses and sins. All
right here is what I want you to see. “That spirit of life in Christ
Jesus,” Now which spirit is she talking about? I notice that it is
not capitalized but which spirit of life is she talking about? Read it.
“The power of his resurrection” that is definitely his divine life it
is not his human life. “Sets men free from the law of sin and
death." The dominion of evil is broken, and through faith the soul is
kept from sin.” Now you know what she is talking about. She is
talking about the Spirit that keeps us from sinning and did you know
what she says that is? I’ve got it here. She says it is the Holy Spirit
that is given that keeps us from sinning. I’ve got the statement. Well
then if that is the Spirit of Christ, don’t you see that I’ve been
telling you the truth that the Holy Spirit is in fact the Spirit of
Christ? I mean there are so many evidences that are coming in to verify
what I have been trying to tell you. “He who opens his heart” Now
here she says it. “To the Spirit of Christ becomes a partaker of
that mighty power which shall bring forth his body from the grave.”
Well I’ve really piled it on tonight.
(Same woman) That could mean two things though, which will bring forth
his body from the grave or…. It isn’t capitalized.
(Wilfred) Yes, I see what you mean. But the subject of the sentence is
“he” that’s the person who opens his heart to the Spirit of Christ.
Becomes a partaker of that mighty power which shall bring forth his
body from the grave. It’s definitely talking about the human.
I hope you will forgive me for running over that much. I feel badly
every time I go away and feel guilty that I take so much time. But
these things are so wide and sweeping that if you just take a bit at a
time you never really get the thing put together and I went awfully
fast in places. But I think you have enough now as you continue to read
and think, someday you’ll wake up and suddenly some pieces will come
together. You’ll read something and all of a sudden it will make sense
to you and so on and that’s what I hope it will do. And I hope when we
come to the sanctuary, and the cleansing of the sanctuary that you will
be able to grasp that ceremony in a little better way than you perhaps
have been able to in the past. And the communion service really should
take on a new meaning for you. It really should. And He says to do that
until He comes. Who comes? We have always thought in terms of Jesus
coming literally in the clouds of heaven. Don’t you see what it really
means? When that body and blood comes. And when does it come? At the
marriage of the Lamb. The marriage supper. The whole thing fits
together. He says you can eat this and you drink this. And as often as
you do it you do show forth the Lord’s death till He come and his body,
his temple is rebuilt and He has a habitation in which He can dwell.
He’s still interceding the Father to send his Spirit. That’s how you
may know that when He came forth to life in himself again He did not
take it to himself as a complete permanent package because if He did He
would not have to pray the Father to send the Spirit, He could send it
himself. So the Spirit was or a measure of it was still in the custody
of the Father. And when He sees his people not ready and the closing
things coming in on them, you know? He cries to his Father, My blood,
My blood, My blood. And what does it mean? Well you understand it now I
hope. And when that Spirit comes that light that comes from the Father,
see? And that comes to Him, see? It comes to Him. And what does He do
with it? I will send Him to you. That’s what He said. He says the
Father sent it, He says I will send it. So you see that it is a
transition again. God does things through somebody.
Well bless your hearts for being so patient.
(The conclusion of this two C/D series Bible Study on the Holy Spirit)