Bible Study of the Holy Spirit

J. Wilfred Johnson
Feb. 16, 1983

Transcribed from C/D #60 & #61
November 6, 2013 thru November 15, 2013

(Wilfred) Now tonight we will be beginning in The Desire of Ages near the bottom of page 208 in the paragraph starting; "When Moses was about to build the sanctuary." The next few paragraphs are very intense and I wonder if you would permit me to just read those as I go along because there are so many spots where I would like to stop and if someone is reading I will have to wait until the paragraph is finished and it is a little more awkward to come back to do it. And when we get into something a little thinner again maybe we’ll revert to the other method. I’m not trying to say that I am unhappy with your reading it’s a matter of convenience in presenting the material.

Moses, when he was about to build the sanctuary, What for?

(A man) As a dwelling place for God.

(Wilfred) As a dwelling place for God. God doesn’t have a home? Doesn’t He have a home?

(Same man) Maybe He wanted to dwell with us too.

(Wilfred) Just with us? He wants to dwell just with us?

(A woman) In us.

(Wilfred) In us! And this is where this idea of God is a spirit comes in. Now don’t get the idea that God is not a personal being and He does not have the mechanism of some kind of body but it is of a quality and intensely powerful whatever, maybe big, I don’t know that it is not practical for us to be able to look at Him. And the God that we are privileged to see is the Son, Christ, and even He was too bright for Moses to look at directly. But God is willing to come to be with us and He can be with us by his Spirit, which is a mystery. But He can dwell in us by his Spirit, which is even a deeper mystery I suppose we would have to say. I want to get into this other area. A little more comment on that perhaps later.

“When Moses was about to build the sanctuary he was directed to make all things according to the pattern shown him in the mount." Now I would like you to understand that there is a reason why God wanted this particular pattern. God reveals Himself and exposes his thought by means of little models. I sometimes call them sand-table displays, He has a way of putting it into some tangible representation with the parts of the thing having significant meanings, symbolic meanings. He can thereby couch his truth in a manner that cannot easily be understood by any, as we say, Tom, Dick, and Harry taking a peek at it. There is no one who can really understand what God is teaching in his book except with the aid of the Spirit of truth. And this puts the devil and his angels at a disadvantage because they don’t have that Spirit. And here is one of the purposes that God actually presents his truth in similitude’s as He says in the Bible. So the sanctuary, the tabernacle that they built has some significant things in it. We won’t go into the details of them just bare it in mind that it does have those.

“Moses was full of zeal to do God’s work. The most talented, skillful men were at hand to carry out his suggestions. Yet, he was not to make a bell, a pomegranate, a tassel, a fringe, a curtain, or any vessel of the sanctuary except according to the pattern shown him in the mount. God called him into the mount and revealed to him the heavenly things. The Lord covered him with his own glory that he might see the pattern.” Interesting isn’t it? It sort of enveloped him. “And according to it all things were made.” I have also thought of Moses and his mind, he must have had a very clear mind and an excellent memory. In those days I think they all had better memories than most of us have today. They didn’t have written materials so most everything was handed down from generation to generation and some of the generations were several hundred years. So, now watch this, that word “so”, here’s your comparison, “So to Israel whom He desired to make his dwelling place,” See, not just the building but the people. “He had revealed his glorious ideal of character,” Now what did He reveal that in?

(Another man) He says his law…it’s referring back to his patterns…

(Wilfred) That’s right. It’s referring back to his pattern. “The pattern was shown them in the mount when the law was given from Sinai and when the Lord passed by before Moses and proclaimed; The Lord, the Lord God, and here is his character; "merciful and gracious, longsuffering” Those are all similar characteristics aren’t they? “And abundant in goodness,” Just lots of goodness, “And truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin,” He wants to make sure you don’t misunderstand what He is talking about; He gives it in three different ways. He forgives iniquity, He forgives transgression, and He forgives sin and they really are the same thing aren’t they?

“Israel had chosen their own ways they had not builded according to the pattern.” Well, did they have the pattern? How much of the pattern did they have? What does it say that their pattern refers to?

(Same woman) The Law.

(Wilfred) Noooo. Well, Ok. She doesn’t say that directly but she says that the pattern was shown them in the mount when the Law was given from Sinai. It’s involved, but before that I think it gives the idea, didn’t it?

(Another woman) When the Lord passed before Moses and told about his character?

(Wilfred) Yes, it’s in the sentence; “So to Israel, whom He desired to make His dwelling place, He had revealed His” What?

(Same woman) His glorious ideal of character.

(Wilfred) His glorious ideal of character.

(Another man) They had it but they didn’t understand it.

(Wilfred) They didn’t understand it. Where did they slide down the slide and lose sight of God, to a large extent?

(Same women) When they went into captivity.

(Wilfred) When they went into captivity in Egypt. So when God brought them out this was one of the things that He needed a special point to deal with and for them. He brought them into difficult situations, impossible situations, and then bailed them out with the idea of endeavoring to build their confidence in Him and to get to know Him again. These characteristics of his, they needed to get to know those again. Meanwhile what had they done? Well, they had chosen their own ways. “They had not builded according to the pattern. But Christ, the true temple for God’s indwelling.” Now memorize that statement. Who is the true temple for God’s indwelling? What did Jesus say when He was here? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father. Philip said, Lord, well we’ve seen you but show us the Father. And Jesus couldn’t quite see that he had not understood that. Don’t you know that my Father and I, we’re alike? That I am revealing the Father and if you have seen me you have seen the Father. They hadn’t grasped that.

Do you get the idea here and elsewhere that somehow God the Father chooses to manifest Himself through another being? Do you see that? Nobody has seen the Father at anytime, no man at least. And Jesus says that no one has seen the Father, the Son only. And this temple that God revealed Himself through was the Son Christ. Now does this just apply at this point or has it always been like that?

(Another man) Well I think in a special way at this point because it was a special pead (?) that man should understand but all through the Biblical record Christ was revealing God to man and even before that Christ was a revealer of God to the Angels.

(Wilfred) Do you think Lucifer had ever seen the Father?

(Same man) Well he stood in his presence, I don’t know about that.

(Wilfred) He stood in the presence of God.

(Same woman) He didn’t ask to take God’s place.

(Wilfred) No he didn’t. I think it is significant. What does the Bible say about God? What are his characteristics?

(Same woman) He’s invisible.

(Wilfred) He’s invisible. Now does that just mean invisible to man or does that mean invisible to anybody? Doesn’t it say something about their angels behold the face of my Father or I’m I dreaming? I’d better look that one up.

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Then again what does that mean? You see, you have to be very cautious when you are dealing with some of these things. Do you remember what Jesus said to the people when He was on the mount of, what was the name of the mount where the beatitudes were given? Mount of blessing? At least that is what it’s called. He said blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. And we get the impression that these are privileged people and they are actually going to see the Father face to face and I have chatted with quite a few people who have that idea.

Now there is another statement and guess you just thought of it, huh?

(Another man) Jesus said if you have seen Me you have seen God.

(Wilfred) That’s right that’s what the Bible says. But there is another statement and don’t ever depreciate these books like some people are doing now days. Don’t do it. Because this is the lesser light that leads to the greater light. If you can’t quite interpret what the greater light is saying go into these and I think you’ll find it. Because she says in connection with her comments on those blessings on the mount, she says; they shall see God as Adam saw Him in the garden. Now the Bible says specifically that no man had seen God at any time. Did Adam see God?

(Same woman) No, he saw Jesus.

(Wilfred) Well she tells us. The God that Adam saw was Christ. Now I thought for a while, before I came across all the statements on it, I thought for a while that maybe, because I was looking for every loophole I could find so I wouldn’t get caught making the wrong statement. Maybe He saw both Christ and the Father. Because she talks about that it was Christ that walked with Adam in the garden, in another statement and I knew about that one. And I thought well if He walked with Christ it’s possible that God was there and he saw God too. But I never found anything that would indicate that he saw both of them as two different persons. Do you understand what I am saying? So that statement where she says that they will see Him as Adam saw Him in the garden, that can’t mean anything else except Christ. When you take everything that it says. When the Bible says that no man has seen Him and He says if you’ve seen Me you’ve seen the Father. So he saw the Father in the person of Christ.

Now I can’t resist repeating again what I’ve said before, I think these things are so important that we need to get them and having taught for so many years I did learn one thing; That is if you want people to remember something you’ve got to keep hammering back on it. And what do you think I’m going to say about this true temple of God, which is Christ? What do you think I’m going to say? See if any of you remember. I’ll put you on the spot here.

(Another man) The Spirit of Christ indwells us also.

(Wilfred) Can you go a little further?

(Same man) Christ is the head and we are the body.

(Wilfred) How about this one? It’s chapter 2 of Ephesians verse 18. “For through him” Through whom? It’s talking about Christ. "We both have access” That means we have access, both to, “By one Spirit unto the Father.” What does that say? Do we have any access to the Father even though He’s invisible?

(Same man) Yes, through the Spirit of Christ.

(Wilfred) Through Christ? And here it says by one Spirit. Now I’m going to be commenting a little more on that. There are several places in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy where the Spirit is tied in with Christ as well as with God and you mustn’t forget that.

19 “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;” And back in verse 16 he talks about that He might be reconciled both unto God in one body. Another place he makes it very clear that the body of Christ is his church, see? And that of course can mean the body as a group of people who speak of a body of people don’t we? But the Bible is unique in that it contains in many, many, places deeper meanings, different applications of the same passage to another situation where it has another meaning. And this word “body” has a double meaning, I don’t think it’s accidental. And we need to bear that in mind because as you recall that Christ when He assumed humanity had to relinquish that glorious body that He inhabited when Moses saw Him. He didn’t have that any more when He was in that little cradle there in Bethlehem did He? And in case you wondered what happened to this great body, which was an eternal body, Jesus didn’t leave us destitute of information, in fact the very last model that he created to teach before He went to his second death on the cross. The very last night with his disciples He explained, do you remember what He did? He broke the bread and said this is my body which is broken for you and what was to happen to it?

(Same woman) You are supposed to eat it.

(Wilfred) You are supposed to eat it. And what about the wine? His blood and what are you supposed to do with that?

(Same woman) Drink it.

(Wilfred) Now you know in the Old Testament it says on a number of occasions that you don’t drink the blood. You mustn’t drink the blood. Can you see a reason why God didn’t want them to drink the blood of those animals? You would think that that would be a good teaching devise. Ahhh but the blood of Christ is a very sacred thing, it is the symbol of life. That is taught in the Old Testament. And what kind of life did Christ have that was different from anybody else’s? 

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Eternal life in himself. Where did He get it from?

(Same woman) From his Father.

(Wilfred) From the Father. As the Father has life in himself. What does the Spirit of Prophecy say is going to ultimately happen to that life? Now I’ve got to go back further yet. What happens to the Spirit of life when one dies?

(Same woman) It goes back to the Father who gave it.

(Wilfred) Now that’s the life that we have which is not life in ourselves. Of course it’s a gift of God and I am not going to define it in detail. But our life is conditional, what kind of life did Christ have?

(Same woman) Eternal life.

(Wilfred) He had unconditional eternal life. It was his, nobody could take it from Him, He said that. I lay it down of myself and I can take it again, it’s mine. Now when Adam died that breath of life that God breathed into his nostrils which again is symbolic. It made him a living soul right? He became a living soul. Now, when he died, what is the terminology the Bible uses when a man died in those old days?

(Same woman) He gave up the Ghost.

(Wilfred) He gave up the Ghost, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of life. It says about Jacob I think specifically when he gave these blessings to his sons then when he was ready to die it says he gathered up his feet into the bed and gave up the Ghost. And what does the Bible say happens to that Spirit? It says it specifically and what happens to the Spirit? It goes back to God who gave it.

Now where does Christ get his eternal life in himself from? According to his own testimony?

(Same woman) From his Father.

(Wilfred) Now He was going to relinquish it, the Father wouldn’t take it from Him, nobody could take it from Him, that’s what He said. He said, I lay it down of myself. What happened to the life within himself that Christ laid down? Well, it says here that He took the death which was ours that we might receive the life which was his. Now what life was this? His human life?

(Same woman) His eternal life.

(Wilfred) His eternal life. The human life you see wasn’t one of these models again. Sure he laid down his human life and the Spirit returned to God who gave it. But He couldn’t even lay down his human life, I mean He couldn’t die in his humanity if He had remained immortal could he? He had to separate from his eternal life in himself. And that’s why there in Gethsemane and on the cross she speaks about how He felt his unity with the Father breaking up, this is in The Desire of Ages way over in page 687. He experienced the eternal death of the sinner “As the substitute and surety for sinful man, Christ was suffering under the divine justice. He saw what justice meant. Hitherto He had been as an intercessor for others; and now He longed to have an intercessor for Himself.” Isn't that something?

“As Christ felt His unity with the Father broken up,” What happened to his unity with Father? His oneness with the Father? The Father dwelling in him so to speak?    

(A man in the audience) They separated.

(Wilfred) They separated, why? So He could die in his humanity.

“As Christ felt His unity with the Father broken up, He feared that in His human nature He would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the powers of darkness.” Now do you get the significance of this? How did He have to face up to the powers of darkness alone in his humanity?

Well, while we’re on that I think we’d just better finish that paragraph

“He would be unable to endure the coming conflict with the powers of darkness. In the wilderness of temptation the destiny of the human race had been at stake. Christ was then conqueror. Now the tempter had come for the last fearful struggle. For this he had been preparing during the three years of Christ’s ministry. Who had been preparing? Satan. Everything was at stake with him.” With who?

(Same woman) Satan.

(Wilfred) Satan. “If he failed here, his hope of mastery was lost; the kingdoms of the world would finally become Christ's; he himself would be overthrown and cast out.” So this meant everything to Satan. “But if Christ could be overcome, the earth would become Satan's kingdom, and the human race would be forever in his power.” And that’s another big one. That’s another big one! Would God deliberately leave Satan to live eternally controlling this fallen earth? Well if Christ had failed it says he came at the risk of failure and what?

(Same woman) Eternal lose.

(Wilfred) Well it doesn’t specify as to what that eternal lose is. But this gives a little hint almost doesn’t it?

(Another man) There is another place where it says that if He had failed the rebellion would have spread throughout the universe.

(Wilfred) All right. Now let me ask you a very pointed question. Do you think that God did not have sufficient power to get rid of the devil?

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Then why would the devil become the eternal ruler of this earth?

(Same woman) He never uses force to control people.

(Wilfred) Am I losing you?

(Same man) To the intellect of created beings would it not appear that the devil is correct?

(Wilfred) Yes. If God had destroyed sinners anyway, what about all those beings that He had previously created who haven’t yet got the complete picture and who still remembered the things that Satan had been saying? So here it is; it’s either let Satan continue and carry on or destroy him and ultimately have to give up free-will beings.

(Same woman) So they really have a much clearer picture because they know everything from the very beginning.

(Wilfred) The angels?
(Same woman) Yes, and peoples from other worlds.

(Wilfred) Yes and no. Nobody will have the experience of sin except people in this world and the angels will have an inferior understanding to what those who go through the final conflict will understand.

(Same woman) Except that we don’t have the minds that they do and we can’t hold all this stuff in our minds at once.

(Many voices speaking at once)

(Same woman) They see the whole thing from the beginning to end and they can see the issues and we just see, I’m just speaking for myself, we just zero in on the immediate...

(Wilfred) That’s true.

(Another woman) There is no way that they would have any inking of the attractiveness of sin because to them it would be repulsive but to us it’s attractive. So there is no way that they could identify…

(Another man) But we’re redeemed, we not only have the experience but the facility of the Holy Spirit working now and then that can make us understand where they are incapable of understanding as I see it.

(Wilfred) Yes, we have to take into account the fact that God has agreed in the Everlasting Covenant with his Son that if He came here and succeeded in demonstrating that the combination of divinity and humanity is capable of living God’s law and capable of recovering the pure and holy nature of Adam before he fell that God would supply the Spirit of Christ. He would make available to whomsoever Christ interceded on behalf of. That’s what it says; the Father has turned all judgment into the hand of the Son. The Son is the one that decides who is going to receive his Spirit. The Father will cooperate with him and send it.

Get the picture, which I am just going to read to you from Ephesians. That former body and life-blood of the eternal Christ which He relinquished when He became a human being and of which He partook as He lived his human life in the same way that He will make available for you and I to partake will become our permanent possession. We become the new temple of God. Christ is the true temple of God. But the Christ, that is the true temple of God laid down his eternal body and blood to be distributed to his saints. They become members in the new body of Christ, Paul talks about it. Members in particular of the body of Christ. How much plainer can he be? And Jesus is the first begotten the first born of the new body, the head and we are the members. And the Spirit of Christ, the body and blood of that former structure that He lived in that was the temple of God, the dwelling place of God, becomes distributed among these people. And the body is to be married to the head. You see the husband is the head of the body, Paul says. And he says therefore shall a man leave Father and mother and cleave unto his wife and they twain shall be one flesh. Paul says; this is a great mystery but I speak concerning Christ and his church. And Sister White verifies that the marriage of the Lamb is to be consummated before the close of probation, which is now.

Now when does this integration of the saints become a part of the body of Christ in it’s ultimate? I can answer, it’s in the Desire of Ages and we are coming to it sooner or later. It is on page 386, here she is talking about the crisis in Galilee, which is recorded in John chapter 6 in the Bible. And it says in there, I’d better read it even if it takes me two nights to go through this. I think I should go through it.

He had just fed five thousand people I think it was, with five barley loaves and two small fishes. They gathered up the fragments that remained and they gathered up twelve baskets full, which is far more than the original amount. And then when He talks to his disciples there about this a little later; 32 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,” Ahhhh I’d better go back a bit. This is, 22 “The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereunto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but that his disciples were gone away alone. 24 When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his disciples, they also took shipping and came to Capernaum, seeking Jesus. 25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, when camest thou hither? 26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye did eat of the loaves, and were filled. 27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?" See they wanted to do these miracles like he could just speak and everything happens. 29 “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” In fact that’s why He was doing the miracles so they would believe. 30 “They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?” Isn’t that ridiculous, what did they just see? 31 “Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.” Aren’t you going to give us bread now so that we will know that you are the same one? Now whatch what Jesus said. 32 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,” When He says verily, verily, you can be sure it’s something important. “I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.” Now what part of Christ is it that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world?

(Same woman) The Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Spirit. 34 “Then said they unto him Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life:” So here was Jesus himself saying that He was the bread of life. Now how could He say that?

(Another man) He in his humanity was the product of that Spirit.

(Wilfred) What initiated his birth?

(Same woman) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) Oh, can I ask you who the Holy Spirit is? I guess I better not. I’ll have to go on to another track to show you that. Maybe I better just tell you that the Holy Spirit is intimately connected with Christ. Some of you already have heard me out on this before but because of the tape I’m repeating some things.

In John chapter 14 He identifies himself with the Holy Spirit if you don’t believe it why don’t you just read it. Read it carefully and you’ll see it.

I am going to read you some statements before the evening is over I hope that will say it in so many words. That He identifies himself with the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Christ that we are going to be reading about here shortly again. The Spirit of Christ among other things is that eternal life principle that He had in himself that He relinquished and which went back to the Father. To make it a little easier to understand I’ll give you a little more of the picture, which will require proving in do time. But just put it in the pantry shelf if you feel it’s a little far fetched but I know it’s correct. Because there is a heavenly sanctuary and it wasn’t put up there for nothing. And where was Christ when He relinquished that body and that blood? When He shed that eternal life-blood and relinquished that body and then appeared in a little tiny seed in Mary’s womb. Where was Christ? In heaven and where is his dwelling place? Where does He live? What did Christ show Moses on the mount?

(Same woman) The sanctuary.

(Wilfred) And what did He say it was for?

(Same woman) His dwelling place.

(Wilfred) His dwelling place. So where was He?

(Same woman) In the sanctuary.

(Wilfred) Now when He gave up his Ghost and shed his blood what did our pioneers conclude was the outer court?

(Same woman) The earth.

(Wilfred) The earth. Because it was here that Christ shed his human blood, but listen now don’t forget this, this is the model where is the real thing?

(Same woman) In heaven.

(Wilfred) In heaven. Did you ever wonder what that building was up there for? Well, it’s the model in heaven and where was Christ when He shed his eternal life-blood? And gave up his eternal body and went to sleep. Where was He? In the court of the heavenly sanctuary. Because it’s in the court where the animal is slain and sheds its blood. Did you get that? And we are going to know that this actually did take place up there because He called two witnesses up there from this earth to see it. And He says that He is going to send one of them back to talk about it. But it’s going to go further than that. Throughout eternity God is going to have witnesses that will verify what happened.

Now I’m going to point you to some statements I hope will help you understand this. In the Everlasting Covenant, which was the last will and testament of Christ, which anybody who has possessions always makes out before he dies, right? And stipulates what's going happen to his wealth and his treasures and everything he owns. Let me repeat just a little bit there so we can get it on the tape.

Before a man dies he makes out his last will and testament, which stipulates what is to become of his possessions. Christ was going to die and He had great possessions and one of the greatest that He had was the fact that He had this tremendous body which couldn’t die and which had the Spirit of eternal life in itself, He possessed it. And the only way that Christ could go to sleep would be to relinquish those possessions. Plus his title to the entire universe, He created it all. He appointed an executor of his estate like you always do in your will. Who is the executor of the estate of Christ?

(Same woman) God the Father.

(Wilfred) God the Father. So where did Christ’s possessions go, into whose trust were they placed when He relinquished his life in heaven? Back to the Father, it says so; it says He gave back the scepter into the Fathers hand. And it says that the Spirit of life, the Ghost of life, returns to God who gave it. And it says that God gave Him his life in himself so when He died where did it go? Are you getting the picture?

Now where is the Spirit of Christ resident? Yes, I guess we can’t really put it too specifically. But the part I was looking for was, in who’s trust is the spirit of Christ? And where was Christ the person after that had been accomplished?

(Same woman) He wasn’t.

(Wilfred) He wasn’t. And yet He was because He was eternal. Now here is a mystery that you are going to have a little difficulty getting around. But I’m going to try to give you the facts and suggest to you how it is and you may or may not want to accept. But I’ll tell you one thing; I have done an awful lot of thinking about it and checking for many years and I haven’t found anything that answers the questions except this.

The eternal life Spirit of Christ went back to the Father. Now I’m going to read something I think will prove it to you. Let me first show you in John chapter 6 what He says. 48 “I am that bread of life.” Now here was this man in humanity saying; “I am the bread of life.” Who was this person? Christ, before Abraham was, I am. Now I can’t explain it because I don’t know who I am even, let alone who He was. I don’t know what I am I just know that I’m a being and I’m consciences, I can see you and talk to you and think. But I don’t really know what I am. Do you know what you are? But if Christ’s possessions included a body and blood that was internal and couldn’t die and it had a memory and a mind that was the sum total of all the things that had ever happened in the universe, I am the truth. What is the truth? It’s the record of everything that has ever happened. You see, everything that happens is the truth, right? And where was everything that ever happened recorded? 

(Another man) In the mind of Christ.

(Wilfred) How do you know that? He was omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent the whole bit and it was eternal. So it still existed, but where was it? In the bosom of the Father.

Now don’t take me too literal here but I have to say this; Christ was called the Son of God before He became a man and that has got to mean something. And if He was the Son of God and He was eternal and in his divinity He could not die. Where was He when that little seed turned up in Mary’s womb?

(Same woman) A spirit.

(Wilfred) Was He? Is the Holy Spirit a person or is it a thing?

(Same woman) It’s a person.

(Wilfred) The Bible calls it ‘it’ and it also calls it ‘he’. So it’s got to be both. Sister White warns us to remember that the Spirit; the Holy Spirit is as much a person as Christ. Well could it not be true that if this body of Christ could not die and the life was ever living then that is an eternal thing, right? Now if the person involved in that thing goes to sleep, if that person was resident in that little thing in Mary’s womb and in that little baby in that manger was that little mind capable of encompassing the totality of that former body and blood? No! But what was resident in that little human body? The personality, whatever it is, the pattern, the ingredients of this person were there. The nucleus that could develop into this human who could say; I am the Son of God who came down from heaven. Isn’t that something? But what about this Spirit, this body that was eternal and couldn’t go out of existence? It had to remain in the custody of the Father.

Now I’m going to just jump to a conclusion here just to save a little time. And we can think on it and some day when we get up yonder we can verify whether it is right or wrong. But there is enough information in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy to convince me that that entity is what the Bible calls the Holy Ghost. A ghost you see is that which remains, the spirit of someone who has passed on, remains, the ghost. Do you understand what I’m trying to say?

Now I know that the word translated ghost in the Bible is the same as spirit at least in some places. But don’t we call ghosts spirits too? Don’t they think of these spirits that manifest themselves today as being the spirits of people who have died? It’s the spirit of somebody who has died. We know it isn’t, it’s the devil’s counterfeit because they are asleep. But there is an element there. God has a complete record of your life and He is going to reproduce it in the body, so there is something left over of yours but as far as you are concerned, I’m talking about after you die, as far as you are concerned you are not conscience in that thing. Do you understand what I’m saying? And neither was Jesus Christ conscience in that spiritual body and blood that He relinquished, He was asleep. He died the first death the death from which there is a resurrection. When He relinquished his eternal life-blood in the heavenly sanctuary in the midst of the week of seven thousand years if the parallel holds true. Which was prior to the time He came in the form of Jesus in this world. And it may be significant that there is a period of about four to five hundred years in there before Jesus showed up in this world, when there were no messages from Christ through the prophets. And if you count back you’ll find that that was in the midst of the seven thousand year week of this earth’s history. It’s rather interesting.

The first thing the Father did with that body and blood was to send it, you see He is the administrator of the estate now, to send it to initiate the seed. Do you understand? In Bethlehem? And then the anointings of the Spirit, the special big anointing that He got at his baptism and He became the Messiah. This was for his initial work although He already proved the character of God during his infancy and childhood and that’s what He came to do. To show that the character of God is capable of keeping a human being from sin. That’s what it showed.

Let me read here. 35 “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven,” This is the person of Christ. “Not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” Who gave Christ his converts?

(The end of C/D #60 and the beginning of C/D #61)

(A man in the audience) The Father.

(Wilfred) Who is going to raise them up?

(A women in the audience) Christ.

(Wilfred) Whose power is He going to use to do it?

(Same women) His power that He gave to the Father.

(Wilfred) Yes. He says I’ll raise you up. Where did He get the power?
(A man in the audience) His Father gave it to him in the first place.

(Wilfred) His Father gave it to Him in the first place. So whose power is it? It’s God’s but it is also Christ’s. Whose power do you operate with?

(Same women) God’s

(Wilfred) God’s, but whose power is it?

(Several voices at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) It’s both yours and his. But when God gives you something, do you know what the Bible says? It says; The gifts and callings, I think that is the way it says it, of God are without repentance. What does that mean?

(Same women) He doesn’t take them back.

(Wilfred) He doesn’t take them back. Now, we separate ourselves from God by sin. How did Jesus become separated from his Father in Gethsemane? He was no sinner but He bore our sins and that is what brought the cleavage. You cannot have eternal life without a correct connection with God. Unless and until the Father gives you life in yourself as He gave the Son and then you cannot lose your life excepting as you voluntarily lay it down. So moving on. And this is the Fathers will that I should lose none. John 6:40 “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” Now watch. Next verse. 41 “The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.” Can’t you just see it? 42 “And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?” Well what would you say if somebody came around and said He was the Son of God and He could perform miracles? 43 “Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:” In other words, there is nobody saved without the drawing power of God and that comes through the Spirit too, incidentally. “And I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” If you believe on Him what is the situation you’re in?

(A man) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) In what sense do you have it?

(A women) In obedience?

(Wilfred) That takes a few words to answer that one. But it says you have it doesn’t it? Would you be happy with this; That you have delivered to you a measure of the Spirit of Christ which contains the principle of life in itself which when He anoints you with, you do have eternal life. Not that you have it permanently. You have eternal life in the sense that you now have the Spirit of the eternal Christ by measure. You have not the whole loaf but He broke it and gave you a piece. I don’t know how else to put it. 

He says in the very next verse; 48 “I am that bread of life. 49 your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness.” And what happened to them? Well they are dead. 50 “This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.” Now what’s He saying? Don’t you die? Ok, you die in a similar way that Christ went to sleep; you’re going to come up again, right? Look, you die every night, in a sense, don’t you? As far as your concerned you’re just not there, not until you wake up again. Your body is still there it’s still living. Well, isn’t that exactly what happened to Jesus Christ? He went to sleep, his body was still living it was an eternal body, this living bread. I know there are some questions here but I’m going to read the key to solving this in just a moment. 51 “I am the living bread which came down from heaven, if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:” What did He teach his disciples at the last supper? That this bread is his body and you are to eat it. And what is that going to do to you? You’re going to have eternal life. “And the bread that I will give is my flesh,” Now is He talking about his physical flesh in humanity? Are we cannibals? What happened to that flesh? Well, it came out of the tomb on the resurrection morning and was translated and He is still living in it. The flesh of what body did He relinquish?

 (Another man) His former body.

(Wilfred) Why sure. “Which I will give for the life of the world.” Now which body is it then that He is going to give for the life of the world? The one that is in the trust with the Father according to the terms of his last will and testament the Father is going to deliver. Now who is the Father going to deliver it to?

(Same woman) To his children.

(Wilfred) And who are they? Who is the judge?

(Same woman) Jesus Christ.

(Wilfred) It’s in our reading here, I read it. The Father has turned all judgment into the hand of the Son. And where is the Son now?

(Another man) In the sanctuary. 

(Wilfred) In the sanctuary and what’s He doing?

(Same man) His Judgment.

(Wilfred) Let’s go back to the holy apartment first. What did He do first? When He ascended to heaven?

(Same woman) He went into the sanctuary.

(Wilfred) Which apartment?

(Same woman) First apartment.

(Wilfred) And what was He doing?

(Same man) Pleading.

(Wilfred) Interceding. What for?

(Another woman) The Spirit.

(Wilfred) Ahhhh, you got it. What was it that the Father had that He wanted his people to have?

(Same woman) His Spirit.

(Wilfred) His Spirit. So He was pleading; "My blood, My blood Father". Now get it. Blood, you ever wonder what that meant? The life. Where was that life? In the hands of the Father. That’s why He says, "My blood, My blood Father." That’s why He says you have to drink my blood; you must absorb my Spirit of life. Don’t you see? So He is the intercessor and He prays the Father. He says; send that Spirit to Wilf Johnson I want him to have it. The Father says, Oh, but he is a big sinner. Jesus says I’ll take care of him. I’ll be responsible for his sins, send him my Spirit, he needs it. And the Father is the administrator of the estate but He committed all judgment into the hands of the Son. And whatsoever the Son asks the Father, the Father will do it. In fact He says whatever you pray for in my name I will do it, the Father will do it.

52 “The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” Have you said that? It’s nonsense it doesn’t make sense. 53 “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.” Don’t you see what He is saying? That flesh is still his. He can still return to his former body and blood and live again. He has merely died the death of sleep from which there is a hope of a resurrection. And that’s where the Gethsemane experience takes on a new significance. Because at this point He is dying the second death the eternal death of the sinner from which there is no hope of a resurrection. Now I don’t know if you realize what that implies.

(Same woman) His Father had to leave Him. He could never be the same, He could never return to his same body.

(Wilfred) Be careful. All power is given to me in heaven and earth. I lay down my life nobody takes it away from Me. I have power, all power, to take it again. But do you know what she says? He came forth from the tomb to life in himself. But she doesn’t stop there. He took it to give. I don’t know whether I can be really detailed here or not. But you know what He said to his disciples on that last supper which gives me the key? He said; I will not again partake of this until I partake of it anew with you in the kingdom. And the Kingdom is restored, according to Early Writings before the close of probation. And that’s when the marriage takes place. Now get it, just get it. He came forth to life in himself. But He did not retain it. He came forth to give it. It was his. God never takes it away from anybody. You see, He gave it to his Son it was life in his self it was his. And the Son made out the covenant. So in the most holy apartment, what’s He doing? Judgment, testing characters, and praying his Father for the Spirit. And what’s going to happen to that nucleus of people during the final conflict who go through those final tests and prove that they will live according to God’s law. What’s coming on those people? The final outpouring of the latter rain. The final outpouring of the measures of the Spirit. So far they have been getting it by measure, do you understand?

Now when the final outpouring comes. Don’t you see what that means? It means the body and blood of Christ has now become one flesh with his saints, the marriage of the Lamb to the New Jerusalem. The church is the Lambs wife. The bride of the Lamb. She says it. Did you see that? And when the head is connected with the body and the Spirit is now in the total body as it was in the body of Christ originally. But now the body is made up of one hundred and forty four thousand saints. The living saints she says one hundred and forty four thousand in number and you can believe that to be literal or as many as you like, but it sounds very literal to me. The head and the body become one flesh the marriage of the Lamb is consummated. The subjects of the Kingdom are made up, she says. Probation closes.

Now do you see the significance of the sanctuary? Oh, I am giving you an awful lot tonight.

Destroy this temple, Jesus said, and in three days I will raise it up. What temple? It has several applications. But let’s take the big temple that He lived in. He relinquished it in the midst of the week and in three days, it’s speaking of the thousand year days, you still come out even. On the third day He raises it up. What temple? The temple of his body. What body? Well the one that went back to the Father and which He is distributing to his saints to eat and drink.

There is more in chapter 6, you can read it, we’re running out of time. Let me read now from page 386 The Desire of Ages.

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) He’s raising it up now. His people. See?

(Same woman) Is this the third day?

(Wilfred) Isn’t it? Seven thousand years in the midst of it you’ve got 3 thousand, one comes out for the millennium isn’t that the third day?

"Then said Jesus unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven." It wasn’t Moses that did this. “The giver of the manna was standing among them.” She says. Now watch. “It was Christ Himself who had led the Hebrews through the wilderness, and had daily fed them with the bread from heaven.” Who did that? Christ himself. Now watch. “That food was a type of the real bread from heaven. The life-giving Spirit, flowing from the infinite fullness of God,” Is what? “Is the true manna.” And she goes on to point out, “Jesus said, the bread of God is that which cometh down out of heaven, and giveth life unto the world."

Then in the next paragraph it identifies it as I am the bread of life the true manna. Now I don’t know whether you get this out of this passage or not but I get it. It essentially says that the Holy Spirit is the life of Christ. It’s the blood of Christ, his eternal life Spirit. That Spirit which could not die, which had all consciousness, all knowledge, all wisdom, but it was in a sense not the person of Christ anymore because the person of Christ was the little boy Jesus. And yet Jesus could say, I am before Abraham was. I am and He’s talking about the Spirit that was Him.

Now go to John chapter 14; I think this will help you put it together. You may think that I’m just talking through my hat here but I’m trying to account for all the pieces that are there.

John chapter 14:15, “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” And if you do that what’s going to happen? 16 And I will pray the Father,” Who is the "I"? 

(Same woman) Christ.

(Wilfred) Jesus. I like to say Jesus when we are talking about the human on this earth and Christ when we talk about the heavenly. It makes it a little easier although they overlap. 16 “And I will pray the Father, and He” Who is that?

(Same woman) The Father.

(Wilfred) The Father. “Shall give you another Comforter,” Now who is the "another comforter"?

Verse 26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things,” Now He almost talks about this as being apart from himself, doesn’t He?

Now watch, let’s go back to 16 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you”, for how long?

(Several voices at once) Forever.

(Wilfred) So when God gives you this Spirit that gift is without repentance. It’s yours for eternity. 17 “Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him for he dwelleth with you, and shall be”, where?

(Another man) In you.

(Wilfred) In you. Now listen. 18 “I will not leave you comfortless:” And what is the next word?

(Same woman) I will come.

(Wilfred) “I will come to you.” Where is Jesus now?

(Same woman) In us.

(Another man) In heaven.

(Wilfred) In heaven. Then what’s He saying when He says I will come to you? But, do you see that He doesn’t say, I will send my Spirit and He will take my place. He says that further up, He says I’ll pray the Father and He’ll send you another comforter which is the Holy Ghost, So He says that. But what does He say here? I will come. Now what is He doing? He is identifying himself with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, and I just read you that from the Desire of Ages, is the living manna that came down from heaven. Isn’t that what it said? It is the Spirit. Isn’t that what it said? The life-giving Spirit, the real bread from heaven.

And what did Jesus say? “I am the living bread.” Now do you get the connection? Can you fathom this? Can you span it? Is it possible for you to put those pieces together? Here is the total unit of the eternal Christ his body and blood with all of the knowledge and wisdom, with all of the gifts that it had it becomes an entity which is identified with Christ but it is not the conscious person of Christ as an individual, He is asleep and He grows up into a knowledge of himself knowing who He is. He is anointed with the Spirit of his former self and He becomes not only Jesus, but Christ, and they are one! At the cross or Gethsemane there is a break and for the second time He lays down his eternal life. But that eternal life does not die it stays.

And in the sanctuary He intercedes and that life, that living bread, that manna, comes down from heaven and He says I’ll pray the Father and He’ll send Him, the living bread. He will abide with you and shall be in you forever.

I don’t know how else to put it. The Holy Spirit is a person, but what does the Bible say about it? He shall not speak of himself. In other words He’s not going to direct his own affairs. He is a robot kind of thing. Whatsoever He hears, that He will speak. I can’t explain or answer every question that you can ask because I don’t understand it and we are told that we will not understand the mystery of the Holy Spirit. But I can point you to some things that lead me to say what I have told you. You may not be able to put it all together. I can’t, I can only say certain things. And one of them is in The Desire of Ages page 805, “The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.” Now could that be any plainer? Could it? Page 671, “Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature.” You’re eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the Son of God.

Ok, now here is one; The Desire of Ages 827, “All who consecrate soul, body, and spirit to God will be constantly receiving a new endowment of physical and mental power. The inexhaustible supplies of heaven are at their command.” Fantastic. Note the next. “Christ gives them the breath of His own spirit, the life of His own life.” Do you get the significance? Note the very next sentence. “The Holy Spirit puts forth its highest energies to work in heart and mind.” You see she just doesn’t come right out and say that the Holy Spirit and Christ are identified, but she puts them so close together. But wait until you hear the next one.

I have here the one that I just read from the same book page 386. “The life-giving Spirit flowing from the infinite fullness of God is the true manna. Jesus said, “The bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven and giveth life unto the world.”

Now, I’ve got so many of them here I don’t want to read you them all. Just be tolerant with me for a moment. I know I have it here somewhere. Here’s one.

The Desire of Ages 388, “It is through the Spirit that Christ dwells in us. And the Spirit of God received into the heart by faith, is the beginning of the life eternal.” This is what I was telling you before, when do you have eternal life? When do you partake of eternal life? When you partake of the Spirit. And when you begin partaking of the Spirit at your conversion when you accept the Lord Jesus Christ. So if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ the Bibles says you have eternal life. In what sense do you have it? And I asked you that question before, now I think you can answer it. You have it when you partake of the Spirit.

(Same woman) You know I have read that someplace in one of the Bible Commentaries that said, if we longed for the word of Christ, if we have longed for this then we can know that Christ has already begun his work in our hearts.

(Wilfred) That’s right.

(Same woman) I love that, that’s so beautiful.

(Wilfred) Here is another one I want to read to you. From Thoughts From the Mount of Blessing page 55. “If they would open their hearts fully to receive Christ,” And I just read to you how you receive Him. By his Spirit, right? “Then the very life of God,” What is the life of God? His Spirit. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Do you know what the very life of God is here? “His love," is what she says. “Would dwell in them, transforming them into His own likeness;” Listen, and what does the Bible say about the Spirit and love. It says that the love of God is shed abroad in the heart by the Holy Ghost, which is given to us. So it all ties together. The life, the love, and the blood, the bread, if you take that key that the blood represents the life of Christ you will understand the sanctuary service a lot better. How is the sin that you confess transferred to the sanctuary by the sprinkling of blood? How does that happen? Can’t you see that when you accept the Lord Jesus Christ you then become a member in the new temple of God, his body of saints, this is his mystical body and she says in the SDA Bible Commentary that this new body is built up of the redeemed from the earth, right? When you become a member in that new body which is now the temple of God where He dwells which is Christ’s body don’t you see how that Christ is bearing in his own body your sins? And how is it that you become a member? By the Spirit which is the blood. You become a member, you partake of the Spirit and the divine nature when you become a member. And your sin that is written in your body becomes a part of the body of Christ, the true temple. So your sin is recorded in the body of Christ. And do you know what it says? It says He destroyed sin in the flesh. And isn’t He now going to be cleansing the temple, the most holy apartment of the temple by the sprinkling of blood. How is He going to do that? Oh it is simple.

(Another man) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) You’ve got it brother. As the cleansing takes place in the model in heaven above a parallel cleansing is to take place in the soul temple, a work of purification here on earth. And I can read you statements that say that you cleanse your own soul temple. I could read you statements that say you can’t do it the Holy Spirit cleanses your soul. And I could show you how that there are two levels of cleansing. You can only use your free choice to cleanse your temple by obedience, when you quit sinning you are cleansing and purifying your soul temple. But you can’t cleanse the heart and the nature but when you do the obeying then you receive of the latter rain Spirit. That’s a condition of receive it. And the latter rain transforms the nature, purifies the soul and the heart. And cleanses you from all defilement so that your nature is changed back into the sinlessness of Adam before his transgression. I gave you a mouth full.

Now I want to read you that statement that she says which identifies the life of Christ with the Holy Spirit. I read you the one about the Holy Spirit is the breathe of the spiritual life in the soul. The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. It is through the Spirit that Christ dwells in us and the Spirit of God received into the heart by faith is the beginning of life internal.

And the one about fully receiving Christ. You get his love that is his life and it transforms us into his own likeness.

Here, Review and Herald May 1904. This one was quoted in the Sabbath School lesson quarterly in 1973. The regular Sabbath School Quarterly. “Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place.” And I just read you that from John chapter 14. “This Comforter is the Holy Spirit - the soul of his life,” God breathed into Adam’s nostrils the breathe of life and Adam became a... What gave Adam his living soul? The breath of life. What is the Holy Spirit relative to Christ?

(Another man) What gave him his life?

(Wilfred) It is the Spirit that gave him his life in himself, right? And it says that it is the soul of his life. So when He relinquished it then Jesus no longer had that, right? Until He partook of it again. But He partook of it again right from the initiation of his birth, but it came by measure. It is impossible for the fullness of the former body and blood of Christ to possess one single human being. He partook of it but He could have gone back to it. But He gave himself to humanity forever and He is sharing that body with his saints.

Back in Ephesians there where we got off onto these other avenues and bringing in other ingredients. Chapter 2 verse 19; “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:” You see where the Lord is building his temple again? He said destroy this temple and in three days I will build it up. He is building a new temple. 22 “In whom ye also are builded together” What for? “For an habitation of God” God wants to dwell in this new temple. And what aspect of God or what part is going to dwell in that temple? “Through the Spirit.” Whose Spirit is this? It is the Spirit of God right? Who had God’s Spirit besides the Father?

(Same woman) Jesus.

(Wilfred) And what was it called in connection with Christ? And I was just going to bring you to that. It’s on page 209 in The Desire of Ages. We had just been reading it at the top of the page there some while back. “So to Israel, whom He desired to make his dwelling place, He had revealed his glorious ideal of character. The pattern was shown them in the mount when the law was given from Sinai, and when the Lord passed by before Moses and proclaimed, "The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin."

Israel had chosen their own ways, they had not builded according to the pattern; but Christ, the true temple for God's indwelling molded every detail of his earthly life in harmony with God's ideal.” And what does He want us to do? The same thing. Why did He do it? As an example to us so that we might become included in his new temple, He being the head and we being the members. He is sharing that former body and blood, the true manna, for us to eat and drink and become a part of his new temple. But that temple has to be cleansed and here is the significance of the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary from all defilement, the sins that have been polluting the sanctuary. I explained to you how that when we become members of the body Christ when we come in at conversion and are accepted into his family. We carry with us through the agency of the Spirit we become a member and we are tied in by the Spirit, the blood see, the new body, so our sins are transferred to the new body by the sprinkling of blood do you understand? The life-blood of Christ that He shed. And we tap into that and we have eternal life flowing through us through our spiritual aspect, do you understand? We now have a spiritual nature as well as a cardinal nature.

Let me read on now. “He said, "I delight to do Thy will, O My God: yea, Thy law is within My heart." Ps. 40:8.” Now watch. “So our characters are to be builded "for an habitation of God through the Spirit." She is now commenting on that very text that I just read. “And we are to "make all things according to the pattern," even Him who "suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow His steps.”

“The words of Christ teach us that we should regard ourselves as inseparably bound to our Father in heaven.” What is the connecting tie?

(Another man) The blood.

(Wilfred) The blood. The Spirit. “Whatever our position, we are dependent upon God, who holds all destinies in His hands.” And it just comes to my mind that in taking on himself humanity He has indesolvably connected us with himself. We become connected with Christ. He has bound himself to humanity by a tie that cannot be broken and in doing this He has given us access to the Father. You know? It’s all in there. Now listen. “He has appointed us our work, and has endowed us with faculties and means for that work. So long as we surrender the will to God, and trust in His strength and wisdom,” What’s the condition now? “Surrender the will to God,” Now I have explained what surrender is; when you want to do this and God wants you to do that, surrender means that you do that and you don’t do this. You do what God asks you to do not what you want. That’s surrender. “And trust in His strength and wisdom, we shall be guided in safe paths,” Do you see we are going to get input from the Spirit? We will get impulses, we will get attitudes, and feelings, and desires, and likes, our hearts will go out after righteousness. We will want to do the right things we won’t hate them anymore. Transformation of the nature so that we love to do the right things and in doing those things that God wants us to do we are but doing the things we want to do anyway. Or put it the other way around in doing the things that we feel like doing we are doing exactly what God wants us to do. Because our feelings are now back in harmony with God’s feelings. We are going to talk about that someday, feelings and that is the final atonement, the final at-one-ment, the restoration of the sinlessness of Adam before he fell. “We shall be guided in safe paths to fulfill our appointed part in His great plan. But the one who depends upon his own wisdom and power,” Listen to what he is doing. “Is separating himself from God.” How do you break your connection with God? By depending on your own wisdom. What’s the key to connecting with God?

(Another man) Surrender and trust.

(Wilfred) Surrender and trust. Yes, you’ve got it.

(Same woman) Would you define trust?

(Wilfred) Trust? Well it’s just confidence. Jesus told Peter to come walk on the water. Would you do it?

(Same man) But you can’t trust until you know.

(Wilfred) But you can’t trust until you know. But He asked him to come. There is a distinction between faith and presumption you know. …. “Instead of working in unison with Christ, he is fulfilling the purpose of the enemy of God and man.”

“The Saviour continued: "What things soever He [the Father] doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. . . . As the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them;” Who does it? “Even so the Son quickeneth whom He will." Now, we have just been talking about spiritual regeneration or reform or resurrection, you see? And who is it that brings us this spiritual life, restores this Spiritual sinlessness and reforms the heart and changes the heart, who is it? Christ through his Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit. “So the Son quickeneth whom He will” In that sense. But listen to what else it says, now, “The Sadducees held that there would be no resurrection of the body; but Jesus tells them that one of the greatest works of His Father is raising the dead,” Now what is she talking about for sure?

(Same woman) The physical raising.

(Wilfred) The physical raising of the dead. “And that He Himself has power to do the same work.” Did He prove that?

(Several voices at once) Yes!

(Wilfred) With?

(Several voices) Lazarus.

(Wilfred) But one difference. The body was still there. Mind you it had been four days. But it could have been miraculously preserved in as much as it could have been miraculously raised or it could have been decaying and still raised. I am not going to judge. But I know that my father’s body and my mothers are down there in the grave in Calgary, they’re all rotted, there is nobody there, there is nothing to work with. But they are going to be raised from the dead. Do you believe that?

The hour is coming, oh I want to make a comment; who was it that raised Jesus from the dead? The Father. What power raised Jesus from the dead? Well the power of the Spirit. Who’s Spirit? That’s the statement and it wasn’t you that I was thinking that maybe I am going to have to back up. I cannot bring it to mind where it is. I stated that He came forth from the grave by a power inherent in himself. I don’t know where it is, am not sure I can find it. And it's maybe that I came to a conclusion without realizing that, you know, sometimes your mind jumps to something and you think that you read it but you didn’t.

(Same woman) I think there is a statement like that.

(Wilfred) I think there is but I don’t know where it is, I can’t find it. But anyway, maybe it doesn’t really matter. But the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are very closely related. There is an entity known as the Holy Spirit it is never spoken of as a separate person prior to that experience that I mentioned in the sanctuary. At lest I haven’t found it. At the creation it speaks about the Spirit of God moving upon the face of the waters. We jump to the conclusion that’s the Holy Spirit, see? Which it is, but it doesn’t ever say that this is a separate person personality functioning independently. Does it say that anyplace? I haven’t found it. Have you ever found in any place where Sister White deals with the conference between the Father and the Son? Have you ever found where it speaks about the Holy Spirit there too as a separate entity? The Father and the Son had a conference, there was no Spirit mentioned. Where was the Spirit?

(Same Man) It was a part of the Father and the Son.

(Wilfred) It was a part of the Father and the Son. It was their inherent spirit just like you have your spirit of life. Not until Christ relinquished that Spirit in the heavenly sanctuary and it could not die and go out of existence, did it remained as an entity that was a replica of the eternal Christ but not the person of Christ? Do you understand? The person of Christ was Jesus here on earth there were not two Christs and yet Jesus could identify himself with that Spirit. I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you, because that was Him that was the true manna that came down from heaven. I know it’s a little tough. But let me just finish this page. 

"The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:” Well I could dwell on that. How can the dead hear the voice of the Son of God when they’re dead? Ok, you say it doesn’t mean that. It means that the dead after they are risen will hear the voice of the Son of God. But that is not what it says. It says that the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth. Isn’t that what it says or something to that effect.

(Many voices at once) Yes.

(Wilfred) It sounds like they live after they hear, right? Now I’m not going to dwell with this because I believe that this is just another one of those statements that we accept the literal meaning, it’s close enough that we accept it even though it is not precisely accurate because the dead cannot hear the voice before they live. You see if He calls them while they are still dead and they hear the voice then they must be alive before they hear the voice because the dead can’t hear. Do you understand what I am saying? Well I don’t want to dwell on it. I don’t think it is an important point at this stage. But I think it is an important point a little later on when we come to some other topics. “The Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead. Christ declares that even now the power that gives life to the dead is among them, and they are to behold its manifestation. This same resurrection power is that which gives life to the soul, "dead in trespasses and sins." What was I talking about a few minutes ago? That it is the same Spirit, same power that deals with the spiritual regeneration, see? In here she says it, that same resurrection power is that which gives life to the soul dead in trespasses and sins. All right here is what I want you to see. “That spirit of life in Christ Jesus,” Now which spirit is she talking about? I notice that it is not capitalized but which spirit of life is she talking about? Read it. “The power of his resurrection” that is definitely his divine life it is not his human life. “Sets men free from the law of sin and death." The dominion of evil is broken, and through faith the soul is kept from sin.” Now you know what she is talking about. She is talking about the Spirit that keeps us from sinning and did you know what she says that is? I’ve got it here. She says it is the Holy Spirit that is given that keeps us from sinning. I’ve got the statement. Well then if that is the Spirit of Christ, don’t you see that I’ve been telling you the truth that the Holy Spirit is in fact the Spirit of Christ? I mean there are so many evidences that are coming in to verify what I have been trying to tell you. “He who opens his heart” Now here she says it. “To the Spirit of Christ becomes a partaker of that mighty power which shall bring forth his body from the grave.”

Well I’ve really piled it on tonight.

(Same woman) That could mean two things though, which will bring forth his body from the grave or…. It isn’t capitalized.

(Wilfred) Yes, I see what you mean. But the subject of the sentence is “he” that’s the person who opens his heart to the Spirit of Christ. Becomes a partaker of that mighty power which shall bring forth his body from the grave. It’s definitely talking about the human.

I hope you will forgive me for running over that much. I feel badly every time I go away and feel guilty that I take so much time. But these things are so wide and sweeping that if you just take a bit at a time you never really get the thing put together and I went awfully fast in places. But I think you have enough now as you continue to read and think, someday you’ll wake up and suddenly some pieces will come together. You’ll read something and all of a sudden it will make sense to you and so on and that’s what I hope it will do. And I hope when we come to the sanctuary, and the cleansing of the sanctuary that you will be able to grasp that ceremony in a little better way than you perhaps have been able to in the past. And the communion service really should take on a new meaning for you. It really should. And He says to do that until He comes. Who comes? We have always thought in terms of Jesus coming literally in the clouds of heaven. Don’t you see what it really means? When that body and blood comes. And when does it come? At the marriage of the Lamb. The marriage supper. The whole thing fits together. He says you can eat this and you drink this. And as often as you do it you do show forth the Lord’s death till He come and his body, his temple is rebuilt and He has a habitation in which He can dwell. He’s still interceding the Father to send his Spirit. That’s how you may know that when He came forth to life in himself again He did not take it to himself as a complete permanent package because if He did He would not have to pray the Father to send the Spirit, He could send it himself. So the Spirit was or a measure of it was still in the custody of the Father. And when He sees his people not ready and the closing things coming in on them, you know? He cries to his Father, My blood, My blood, My blood. And what does it mean? Well you understand it now I hope. And when that Spirit comes that light that comes from the Father, see? And that comes to Him, see? It comes to Him. And what does He do with it? I will send Him to you. That’s what He said. He says the Father sent it, He says I will send it. So you see that it is a transition again. God does things through somebody.

Well bless your hearts for being so patient.

(The conclusion of this two C/D series Bible Study on the Holy Spirit)

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