Review Plus Conditions for
Recieving The Holy Spirit

J. Wilfred Johnson
Jan. 28th, 1976

Transcribed from C/Ds #23 and #24  
September 16, 2012 thru Sept. 22, 2012

(Wilfred) Now, last week we were dealing with the Everlasting Covenant and specifically with the provision the Lord made for the salvation of his people through the eternal sacrifice of Christ, which involved the availability of the full abundance of the Holy Spirit. And we noted that the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is actually the ghost of Christ, the image of Christ, the soul of his eternal life, which is equal to Christ in a sense. That is, when it says that Christ will come to dwell with us it means that the Holy Spirit is going to come to dwell with us. And I think we gave evidence of that. So when we are speaking about the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost we are actually speaking about the divinity of Christ, the divine nature of Christ, his eternal life, which He has made available for us.

Now this thought is probably a little difficult to define in detail and I don’t think we should attempt to do it. But I think we need to accept what the Bible says and what The Spirit of Prophesy says whether we really understand all the details or not. Christ made it very plain that He had to go away or else the Comforter would not come. He said that Himself. And it is impossible for Christ in the human body to be everywhere at once, and only through the agency of the Holy Spirit, Holy Ghost can He perform that promise of being with each one of us individually. Prior to his coming to this world this agency of the Godhead was Christ’s possession. And when Christ created the world it was through the agency of the Holy Ghost that the connections were made, it was the Holy Ghost – The Holy Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters at creation.

These little keys are given in the Bible; we find little keys here, there, and everywhere that if we will pick them up we’ll get the thought. And pretty soon the thing unfolds and we see it. I suppose there will be some questions in some of your minds yet concerning that thought but if you go into your Bibles now and into The Spirit of Prophesy you’re going to come across things that you never understood before, but you understand them now, in the light of what we’ve discussed. I’m going to take time to refer to maybe a few of these to show you what I mean.

In I Corinthians 12:11–13 I think we'll find one. Paul says here, 11 “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,” He’s been talking about these different gifts, wisdom, knowledge, and faith, and gifts of healing and prophesying and miracles and discerning of Spirits, and diverse kinds of tongues and interpretation of tongues. “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit dividing to every man severally as he will.” 12 “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.” Now, there is something profound in that statement itself. Christ, all inclusive, the head and the body, it's all one Christ, Christ in you, Christ in Jesus. Do you see the point? He gave his life to be divided among his saints. 13 “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into” How many bodies? “One body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to,” What? "Drink into one Spirit.” Does that remind you of something?

(John) The last supper.

(Wilfred) Yes. This is the New Testament in my blood. And what was his blood?

(John) His life.

(Wilfred) His life. And the New Testament was what?

(John) The New Covenant.

(Wilfred) The New Covenant. And it made provision for the release of this spirit for the impartation to his people. And it says that the impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of what?

(John) The life of Christ.

(Wilfred) The life of Christ. We read that last week. 14 “For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand. I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member,” All the same kind. “Where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.” And in other places he tells us that, more specifically, that this is the body of Christ. And that the Holy Spirit is the unifying agent, that it is the blood, that it is the life that flows throughout the whole body.

All right. Here’s another thought I picked up from Jeremiah 31:3, 3 He says, “Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:” How long does this love last?

(John) Forever.

Wilfred) How long does the Covenant last?

(John) It’s everlasting.

(Wilfred) Can you tie that love with the Covenant?

(Another man in the audience) His love is life, His life is love.

(Wilfred) That’s it! We read about it last week. When the Spirit comes what does it bring? Love, The love of God. That’s the very first one. And we read that the life of Christ is his love. The life of God is his love. So that when you receive the Spirit, you are receiving the life of God. And the Life of God is his love, Love is an emotional force, it is a form of energy. It is power, it will drive people; energize them, so that they can function. And Jesus said He had come to give us life and to give it to us more abundantly, so when He gives us the added power we can implement decisions and we won’t flunk out. The Spirit is given as a power to keep us from sinning, but it won’t do it without our decision. Our decision is the key that taps into the power; it’s the plug that you put into the socket, to tap in. But the Lord isn’t going to turn the power on until we are ready to function in the right direction.

I had planned tonight to say a few things about the conditions for receiving the Spirit. But I’ll run through these first. Let me finish this one. 3 ".....Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I” Pushed thee. No. “Drawn thee.” That’s the only power God uses, the drawing power of Love. And He’s going to go all out to deliver the totality of his Spirit to us in the outpouring of the latter rain. And when that has been done there is no other resource in Heaven to save a man. Those who are not saved under that influence will not be saved. He’s got nothing else to do it with. He’s been gradually unfolding more and more of the resources that his Father made available to Him to prove to us that there is no love greater than the love of God in the whole universe. And we will receive our greatest joy and happiness in loving Him. Remember that statement? He’s gradually unfolding these resources to us and the final outpouring of the Spirit is his last effort. And we will find out tonight what we should do in order to get it. It hasn’t come and it should have come a long time ago, it hasn’t come. But it is coming.

And here is another one, Hebrews 13:20, 21, One of you folks brought this to my attention. There are quite a number of them in here. But I thought we would share it with everybody.

Hebrews 13 verse 20, “Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus," I hope you don’t mind me stopping quite often to draw out the points, I don’t want you to miss them. Who brought the Lord from the dead?

(Several voices in the audience) God.

(Wilfred) And what does the Bible say?

(Several voices talking at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) It says the God of peace. It says that God did it and there are quite a few places in the New Testament where it says that it was God who raised Jesus from the dead.            

So here you have one of those contradictions, one of those paradoxes in which you have to use both eyes to look at them, to fuse them to get a more realistic image of the thought.    

(A woman in the audience) The way it states that God did it explains itself.....

(Wilfred) Ok. “That great shepherd of the sheep,” Who’s that talking about? Jesus. “through the blood of the everlasting covenant,” Now, does that refer to bringing Him again from the dead, or does it refer to what comes next? “Make you perfect in every good work”?

(A woman in the audience) Both.

(Wilfred) Good for you. The Bible is full of this. This multiple meaning, this multiple application. One person will see a thought one way and somebody else will see it another direction and Sister White says, that’s the way the Word is. And no mind can see the whole thing. But we have to be willing to open our mind to accept what is in there. It was through the blood of the Everlasting Covenant that God raised Jesus from the dead and it's also through the blood of the Everlasting Covenant that we will be made - “perfect in every good work to do His will working in you that which is well-pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”

Now, what was this blood of the Everlasting Covenant again?

(John) His spirit.

(Wilfred) His Spirit. Can you see that the spirit of life of Christ was the agency that brought Him from the tomb? Where was that Spirit of his life when He was in the tomb?

(A woman in the audience) With the Father.

(Wilfred) With the Father. Who’s was it?

(John) Christ’s

(Wilfred) His, it was Christ’s. Was it within Himself?

(Many voices in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Here we are touching on a mystery now that we will have to be cautious with.

There were not two Christs, there was only one. But the divine nature of Christ did not die. She says, it cannot die. But the human nature of Christ died. And in his humanity He was totally unconscious, and He had relinquished his former life so the life that exists in the Holy Ghost is the ghost of the life of Christ, so to speak, is the ghost of Christ. Christ Jesus was not conscious in Heaven when He is in the tomb. Do you understand? He is asleep. So Jesus in the tomb cannot make a decision to decide that He is coming out of the tomb. That’s obvious.  

(A woman in the audience) The angels....

(Wilfred) Your Father calls. You see? But the arrangement had been made in the Everlasting Covenant in the terms. Christ had set down the terms, and the Father was the administrator who carried out his wishes. And it was the life that was within Himself that the Father had given Him that He had returned to the Father that had brought Him forth from the tomb. Now do you see it?

(A woman in the Audience) Well, does our everlasting life go back to the Father?

(Wilfred) We do not have everlasting life in ourselves.

(Same woman) But won’t we get it?

(Wilfred) Yes. But it will be Christ’s that we get, not ours.

(Same woman) Well, did that actually stay with Him or did He give it up. What He had when He was honored, did that actually go back ....

(Wilfred) Remember what He said....

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Yes. That’s right. And another thing He said at the cross, My God, My God, why have thou forsaken me? He was left in his humanity to die the death of a sinner. Well, again I say we are dealing with something we cannot get all the details on. But we can state the facts as given in the Bible and The Spirit of Prophesy. And from there on we better not speculate because we might get into trouble.

(Same woman) One more question, The eternal life that He was given from his Father as He came of age and got older and older, did that go back to his Father as He was dying on the cross? Or was that still inside of Him.

(Wilfred) I thought we just answered that, didn’t we?

(Same woman) Well, I guess I didn’t get it.

(Wilfred) Into his Father's hands He commended his Spirit.

(Same woman) So, He did get it back.

(Wilfred) Yes, but this can apply to his physical spirit, too. His human life. Where it said He gave up the ghost in the Bible. It’s a lower case letter it’s not capitalized. But He relinquished the totality of his eternal life before He ever came to this world.

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) That was his first death. The death of sleep. When He went unconscious. When He was in Mary’s womb he was unconscious, When He was in the cradle there He was conscience but just very little, you know, as the baby begins to dawn into consciousness. He certainly had none of the powers of his former body. He had no power to make a decision to decide whether He wanted it or not. This was all taken care of in the terms of the covenant that the Father was working out according to the Sons volunteer plan. Do you understand?

(Same woman) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) If He were He could not have died.

(Same woman) Before He gave it up was He alive?

(Wilfred) In Heaven?

(Same woman) Before He gave it up on the cross.

(Wilfred) That question is a little difficult because you see, He was dual, He was humanity and divinity combined. In his humanity He was mortal, in his divinity He was immortal. Let me put it this way, by a decision of the will He could have used his immortal power to withstand disease and the inroads, she has a statement on that. And He could have used that power in his own behalf against the devil and to overcome sin and temptation. He could have done that by a decision, because it was his, but He did not do it. He used only the strength or power that was delivered to Him by God, without Christ taking it, do you understand?

(John) She says, He used only that power which is freely available to us.

(Wilfred) Yes. And she also says He overcame in the strength given Him from God. She says that.

Now, is there any questions on that or is it still hazy?

(Same woman) ..... if He was initiated by the Holy Ghost then He would be immortal....

(Wilfred) His divinity. See, you get half your inheritance from your father and half from your mother you know. And I don’t understand that combination and Mrs. White says that it is a mystery. That’s not to say that the Lord can’t reveal that mystery. But he hasn’t revealed it to me. And I don’t understand it, maybe somebody else does. All I know is that here are two natures and we can have those same two natures, I know that too, because she said so. And unless we do have those two natures we’ll never overcome sin because the only way we can overcome sin is to partake of the divine nature, She says it in so many words. And it’s the same Spirit, the eternal life Spirit of Christ, the very soul of the life of Christ that God will deliver to you and me in response to our prayer and the added intersession of Jesus, she says it. And that’s how we get the anointing of the Holy Ghost and the power to get rid of sin. All the decisions we make in the world to get rid of sin will never do it. It’s true she says the expulsion of sin is an act of the soul itself. That’s right, it is because God isn’t going to sin, He’s not going to make a decision to sin. We made the decision to sin, the only one to make the decision not to sin is us, but we haven’t that power to implement that decision, until we receive it.

(John) This will make it plain, from Desire of Ages, page 466.4, She says, “The expulsion of sin is the act of the soul itself. True, we have no power to free ourselves from Satan's control; but when we desire to be set free from sin, and in our great need cry out for a power out of and above ourselves, the powers of the soul are imbued with the divine energy of the Holy Spirit, and they obey the dictates of the will in fulfilling the will of God.”

(Wilfred) Perfect. That was exactly what I was trying to say.

(John) You did say that.

(Wilfred) Did I? Good. Now, here is another one, Hebrews 10:19 & 20. I just want to show you two or three of these so you’ll get the idea of how the Bible can open up with renewed understanding when you get the key. And this is one of the major keys to understanding the gospel. Hebrews 10 starting at 19, maybe 18, He’s talking here about the New Covenant, did you notice? 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus," Oh, I don’t think I want to get sidetracked on this but. What does it mean to enter into holiest?

(A man in the audience) ...........where he met with his people.

(Wilfred) Where He met with His people. And what happens in that holiest apartment?

(A man in the audience) That’s where the cleansing took place.

(Wilfred) That’s where the cleansing took place. Did you get that? Now he says, “We can therefore enter boldly to the holiest by what?”

(A man in the audience) By the blood of Jesus.

(Wilfred) Do you see the connection? The blood of Jesus is the cleansing stream whereby we are washed.

(John) This is what cleanses the sanctuary.

(Wilfred) And what is it?

(John) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit, the very life of Christ the creative power. And she tells us that it is the same creative power that was used at the creation of this world, which has to recreate the image of God in the soul. So we enter by the blood of Jesus. 20 “By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;” And that is another one. He talks about the flesh and the blood, remember? The way to get into the Holiest is through the veil. And what is the veil? The veil is His flesh. That’s what it says doesn’t it? Do you understand that?

(John) We enter that heritage that He laid down before He came to this world.

(A woman in the audience) It could also mean the Word which is the Bible.  

(Wilfred) Shall I explain something here; I don’t think I have done it before. Before Christ laid down his life in the Heavenly sanctuary court prior to coming to this world He delivered to his Old Testament prophets the Word of truth. It’s buried in there. The Old Testament contains the content of truth that was in the body of Christ. His brain contained a record of everything that ever happened, nothing escaped Him; all truth was recorded in that body it was ingrained into the computer mechanism of that body, into those cells, whatever they were made of and it was permanent He had an eternal memory. Do you go along with that? So, He was the record of all truth, wasn’t He? Then He could say, I am the truth, couldn’t He, in more senses than one. Now, that body was going to be disintegrated, physically. He was no longer going to live in it, right? He’s not in it now, is He?

(John) He came to live in a human body forever she says.

(Wilfred) Right. And what is going to replace that body, as the totality of Christ? The bodies of his saints. He is the head they are the members in particular. I just read you part of that.

(Larry) But He retains his human form forever.

(Wilfred) He retains his human form, but in the mystical body, He is the head.

(Larry) Right, in the mystical body.

(Wilfred) In the mystical body. That’s what I am talking about, see. Now, what I want to point out is that the truth recorded in that body and the powers of that body, the omnipresence, omnipotence and so on, the different powers of that body are to be divided and given to his people. And the Word of God that He delivered through the Spirit to the Old Testament prophets contains the ingredients which if they were put into our physical brains, that same spirit that gave life to that body back there can come in to our brains and give life to that truth. I can read you statements to verify that. If you don’t have that truth in there to start with the Spirit will have nothing to work on. It’s the Spirit that makes the Word of God alive. Not in the Book, in the brain. Don’t you see that? You can read the Book and get the ingredients into the brain but you may not understand what you are reading, not until the Spirit comes to give life to that Word. Do you see it? So there is an allegorical pattern of the body of Christ and the fact that it is his Word. Now I said the Old Testament because up to that point that was as far as Christ was able to do it. Because from there on in He laid down His life. The last words He ever gave to his prophets are in the last verses of Malachi.

The next thing that happens is the Holy Ghost begins to function, and there is the miraculous birth and there is a human brain and there is a Spirit that comes. But that human brain was versed in the scriptures and the Spirit came and into that brain came back the knowledge of truth that He recorded in the first place or that was recorded in that body in the first place. And He spoke those words of life and his disciples picked them up and the people picked them up and the same Spirit came to the minds of those disciples and they wrote. And then Paul came along, and he wrote, and we have the New Testament.

(John) And the Word became flesh.

(Wilfred) And dwelt among us. So now we have the two Testaments, the two Covenants, and we have the self same Spirit that gave them both to reproduce them in our minds. And no mind is going to have the whole totality of that reproduced in it. The human brain does not have the capacity at the present time to contain that.

(Linda) That’s why we see it from a different angle.

(Wilfred) One reason.

(John) It takes a hundred and forty four thousand to contain that totality.

(Wilfred) Right. When you take the collective ingredients of the hundred and forty four thousand brains connected with the brain of Christ you have the restoration of the body of Christ. He said, destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up. And that has more than one meaning. Because one day with the Lord is as a thousand years just as the history of this world, it parallels the creation week. Six thousand years and incidentally I have a host of statements at home from the White Estate now on the six thousand years that Sister has pointed out, and I’ll bring them to you when we get through with this other material.

(Linda) Well isn’t Christ on the ....... unintelligible

(Wilfred) Each day is for a thousand years and in three days he said He would raise it up now as his physical body went in to the tomb and on third day it was raised. So you have the laying down of the body of Christ and on the third day it will be raised, and that is now. The third thousand years, it is in the midst of the week that Messiah was cut off. That gives us the key as to when Jesus or Christ laid down his life in the Heavenly sanctuary. And for several hundred years there are no prophecies until Jesus showed up in Bethlehem.

Well, it all fits, the parallel is there. And it doesn’t matter whether you believe it or not. It’s just there, that’s all. Now, you had a question and you had a question.

(Linda) If Christ gave up those powers which would be the omnipresence and omniscience and the rest of that and those powers will go to the saints, then his doesn’t have the powers He had before.

(Wilfred) That’s right.

(John) Didn’t He say that He wouldn’t drink of this cup.

(Wilfred) At Gethsemane He made the final decision, there was no turning back from here on in; He was going through with the plan.

(Linda) You're saying then that when we get to Heaven we will be equal with Christ being the body.

(Wilfred) No. I wouldn't say equal, We are the body He is the head. In Him dwellest all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. But we will have a portion of that blood that He had in his original body, that eternal life Spirit. That’s the only way we can get eternal life we will have a portion of that. That’s what He did; He gave each of them a part, didn’t He? When He broke the body He gave each of them a part. They didn’t each take the whole thing. But He is the head; He has been reinstated with the unanimous approval of everyone. And not until He is married to the body, which takes place before the close of probation, is the unit restored and completed. But then there will be the mystical union between Christ and his saints, it will be restored just as same as your brain has a connection with your toe. And if you want to wiggle that toe, you make a decision and the toe wiggles. So, this is important now, I hope you get this now, and don’t get it twisted. So, when the head makes a decision that He would like to have something done, He is not going to dictate to the toe, that’s the one difference. It’s not a dictation, it’s a council. He becomes the councilor, that’s what the Bible says. No force. But if He wants the toe to wiggle in this big mystical body, and of course that could mean anything, not just the wiggling of the toe in the physical sense. You understand what I’m getting at. But He wants whoever is the toe in that body, He wants him to do some particular thing for Him. He has that inter connection by the Spirit, the still small voice of the Spirit that will connect with the mind of that toe and it will be a request in the mind of that person that will not come as a request, it will come as an instinctive desire, that I would like to do this. And he will follow the dictates of his own will and in doing it he’s fulfilling the will of Christ. Now, that’s not my words, those are the words of our prophet. She didn’t talk about the toe; it’s that second part I’m talking about. His ruler-ship will be an internal thing, the Kingdom of God is within you and in following your own dictates then your mind will be so united with the mind of Christ that in following your own will you are following the will of Christ.

(John) May I read it brother?

(Wilfred) Ok, read it that’s good.

(John) And if we consent, He will so identify Himself with our thoughts and our aims, so blend our hearts and minds into conformity to His will, that when obeying Him we shall be but carrying out our own impulses. Desire of Ages page 668.3.

(Wilfred) Can you think of any better form of government than that? Today we want to do the things that are not in harmony with God’s will and we have to discipline ourselves to do his will constantly. I’m I right? Why is that? Because our hearts are not in tune with his. We have not yet got into the union with the head. He has not yet cleansed the sanctuary, the temple, his body, from sin. But that’s the work of the heavenly sanctuary. And while that’s going on there is a parallel work going on here on earth. There is to be a cleansing of the soul temple here, and it will be done by the agency of the Holy Spirit. He is going to condemn sin in the flesh not only as He did it back there, it says He condemned sin in the flesh, didn’t it? He’s going to come and condemn sin in the flesh of every member of his body.  By his blood He is going to cleanse the soul temple from sin. So, our temple will be a pure and holy temple for the indwelling of the Spirit and an habitation for God through the eternal Spirit, it says. And that Spirit will be the connecting link between us and the Head. Like the nerves of the body, and it will also be like the blood stream, bringing the life, the nutrients for the spiritual body. Got the picture? Well, it’s not my picture; it’s the picture that’s in here. If you want to read it, just read your Bible, it’s all in there and you will see it.

(Larry) Was the Holy Spirit functional before Christ’s death?

(Wilfred) Yes.

(Larry) And if it was his eternal Spirit He could divorce himself of that Spirit gradually at birth but He couldn’t do it while He was still here?

(Wilfred) Oh yes.

(Larry) Because He said, unless I go away the Spirit cannot come

(Wilfred) To you.

(Larry) But it was in Him?

(Wilfred) But only that which God gave Him, only that which God will also give us. But prior to his coming here, that was his life in Himself that God had given Him, it was his possession. It would never be taken away from Him. It was His own.

(John) And He voluntarily laid........

(Wilfred) He voluntarily laid it down. Yes. She makes that very plain. And when Christ was at creation there, you never hear about the Spirit as a separate Godhead, do you? Can you find any place in the Old Testament where you have a separate spirit? It is the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of God, which is the Spirit of Christ. And through that Spirit Christ performed all these functions. When He laid down that Spirit he went to sleep, because it was his Spirit of life. And when you breathe into the nostrils the breath of life, man is made in his image don’t forget, when you breathe into his nostrils the breath of life he becomes a living soul. But the Spirit that was in the body of Christ, as Sister White says, his Spirit is in his Word, which is the symbol of the body of Christ. The Spirit that was in the body of Christ was the eternal Spirit of God, the life in Himself, the self-generating life, and He relinquished that. But He was given a measure of that during his earthly ministry. He could have by his own decision tapped into the whole thing.

(John) And deserted the human race.

(Wilfred) And deserted the human race. And gone back, He could have done that. But He emptied Himself. That’s the very words she uses. He emptied Himself. And He accepted what God gave Him. Of himself He could do nothing. For our sakes He did that so that we would have an example to see that it could be done. And as we have faith in that plan God can fulfill it in our lives. And if you don’t believe it you can't and I am sad to say that there are people in our Church today who don’t believe it. They don’t believe that God can perfect them, until He changes their bodies at the second coming.

(John) But the Bible and The Spirit of Prophesy are plain that we must have our characters perfected prior to the close of probation because then we have to live in the sight of a holy God without an intercessor.

(Wilfred) That’s right. Now we understand of course that the body will not be changed until the second coming. We understand that. So, if you mean by perfection, the total perfection of the body then that is correct. God could do it, but He isn’t going to do it. Why isn’t He going to do it? Because He wants to demonstrate that the devil is wrong. He wants to prove that in the most degenerate body of the human cycle as we have it today, in that very body it is possible for a human being through connection to the divine nature to live without sin. And with all the temptations that the devil can throw at him, it can be done. Ok Ted.

(Ted) She said, “The conditions of eternal life, under grace, are just what they were in Eden--perfect righteousness, harmony with God, perfect conformity to the principles of His law. .... “This standard is not one to which we cannot attain.”  Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing page 76

(Wilfred) Right. That is right. There are quite a few statements saying the same thing.

(A woman in the audience) Well, was he saying that the Holy Spirit didn’t come to the disciples in its fullness? Was his Spirit with Him and on the earth when He was living but not in its fullness?   

(Wilfred) For some reason the Father could not bestow the fullness of the Spirit on the Saints until Jesus had gone through with his ratification of the Covenant. That’s right.

(Same woman) I think I understand that too. But then what power was it that the disciples cast out the devils?

(Wilfred) That was the Holy Spirit.

(John) It wasn’t the full outpouring.

(Wilfred) It wasn’t the full outpouring, No.

(Linda) I was thinking that we had to have the Holy Spirit in order to even understand what He was talking about.

(Wilfred) That’s true, they do. The Spirit comes by measure. But in the latter rain it’s going to come without measure.

(John) Brother Johnson, it appears to me that the ministry of holy angels have everything to do with the delivering of the Holy Spirit to us upon earth. Because we know that it was by the power of the Holy Spirit that these miracles were wrought. Yet in another place it says in the Desire of Ages (DA 143.1}, All the miracles of Christ were wrought by the agency of the angels. And if you will study in the indexes under the ministry of angels, and then if you will study under the Holy Spirit you’ll see that the work seems to be parallel in almost every aspect.

(Wilfred) Thanks for bringing that in John, I had thought to bring it in. But the thought had passed my mind that I shouldn’t because it may complicate it. But I’m glad you brought it. That’s an indication that I should have brought too. So, let me just point this out. The miracles of Christ and the disciples were performed by the power of God through the agency of the angels.

(A man in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) The power of God is through the Spirit; the Holy Spirit is the agency that operates all the functions. Whatever He hears, He does or says. He is the administrative agent. He is the part of the Godhead that can reach......

(Larry) Is He an agent for the Father and the Son? Or, is He just an agent for the Son? And wasn’t it through the power of the Son which life within himself, because of this power He was able to cast out and it was the imparting of this power to his disciples that gave them in turn power. Or did this power while He was here on earth, of course this is getting picky and maybe this is the spot we mustn’t venture but it’s just curiosity and maybe we will not be satisfied, was it power ordained from above or was it within Christ and then imparted to his disciples? And if the Holy Spirit was taken away from Him which He gave up of Himself, prior to his birth because as you have indicated, there is no thought there in the embryo then, at birth life started to function and as you indicated the Holy Spirit is given in part was that impartation then given to Christ as a babe and developed because of his receptiveness and might there just be this suggestion that this might in part be the function of the angel to determine because they are the ones who keep the records? As to the receptiveness of our hearts to the impulses, the principles of Heaven and the more we be receptive the more we are following the more we desire to follow then the more power can be turned on.

(Wilfred) Ok. Now, you brought up several points there and I was trying to keep them straight. We have covered that. I think you were absent. But I’m going to just repeat it. It may not be on the tape because some things we have discussed that didn’t get on the tapes. We ran out. So, let me answer it. Unless everybody is satisfied? Ok. We can only say, or a least I can only say with a clear conscience what I find in here. And beyond that I’ll tell you this is my idea. But I’m telling you what’s in here now. If the miracles of Christ were preformed by the power of God through the agency of the angels it is very obvious to me that Christ made the decision, God responded through the agency of the Holy Spirit through the angels.

Now, we think about the woman who touched the hem of his garment and He felt virtue go out of Him. All right? Now there is a case where the power came through the angel to Jesus to the patient. And I have documentation for that in my files from the physical world on how the devil does it, and the devil is an angel. He can impart power to a human being and that human being can impart that power to someone else and heal them. And you can feel it and you can measure it with instruments.

Now your third point. Well, before I leave that one. He emptied himself and depended on the power given Him from God. And the angels are sent forth as ministers to minister to those who shall be heirs of salvation. He placed Himself in the same position as we are in. That there was no power that He used that we cannot have. And He says, Greater things than these shall ye do. Remember that? Now, it won’t be us that does them it will be the power of God through the agency of the angels that does them. Now, beyond that maybe we should discuss it afterwards or privately so I don’t get completely off my track here tonight. I didn’t intend to take all this time on these. But that’s all right. I mean it’s good. I think that we are getting something. And you may want to think about that brother. And I can point out the statements to you so that you can mull them over. And in the final analysis I’m not so sure that it does make an awful lot of difference, just what the details of the technique are.

(Larry) The only way the Spirit can be transmitted to the human is via the angel; they’re ministering Spirits that has to be the way it has to come......

(Wilfred) I don’t think so. We were talking about the power that heals at that point weren’t we?

(Larry) The Spirit lighted on Christ when He was baptized, right?

(Wilfred) Yes.

(Larry) That wasn’t an angel.

(Wilfred) No.

(Larry) It came down in the form of a dove,

(Wilfred) Right.

(Larry) See? The Spirit therefore must be a.... I don’t mean to be inquisitive, curious, or anything, I’m just trying to think this thing through. If it can be transmitted in the form of a dove, was it transmitted by an angel or can it be sent directly from the Father? If he so elects, of course I don’t know if this is a very important point but it’s something I can’t put my finger on.

(Wilfred) Ok. Now. I don’t know whether the dove was associated with an angel or was it associated directly with the manifestation of the outpouring of the Spirit by the Father. I don’t know that.

(Larry) Doesn’t it say that the Heavens opened and the Spirit....

(Wilfred) And the voice of the Father was heard. And there again, maybe it was spoken through someone else. We really don’t know. At least I don’t know. But the fact is that Jesus did not accept any power for Himself that cannot come to us the same way. We can say that much.

(Larry) Right, If we conform to this point, see this is again, if we conform totally as Christ conformed then there is no reason why the power switch can’t be turned all the way, like a thermostat, like these rheostats, like these lights here, we can throw them on full, there is where I kind of see the function of the angel, He can determine by our daily acts and motives and they can read our minds and Satan can not. And if it is in our hearts to do right then they can turn up the thermostat. This is the way I think about it.

(Wilfred) Well I don’t think there is any harm in thinking of it that way. I don’t really know the mechanics of it completely. But, I have read a lot of reports on things that are going on that the devil is doing. And I certainly got a lot of ideas on how this thing functions and he is an angel and he is functioning as an angel. And if he can do it, the good angels can do the same type of thing. And when I read statements in The Spirit of Prophesy and in the Bible the thing just clicks as far as I’m concerned. I can see how it can be done.

(Larry) I was just wondering whether it could be short-circuiting and directly sent from the Father if He so elects.

(Wilfred) I would say yes. Very definitely, But you made a statement at the end there that I think is significant , “If He so elects”. Now what does the Father do? He did nothing accept through his Son, right?

(Larry) But you see, He poured out His Spirit in the form of a dove to his Son....

(Wilfred) Now, I’m going a little beyond that now. I’m going right to creation.

(Larry) All right.

(Wilfred) How does the Father function?

(John) Through the Son.

(Wilfred) Everything was done through the Son. Nothing was created accept through the Son. That’s his normal way of functioning. Now, when the Son gave up his life, when He gave that up and it was to be delivered to us. It would seem to me that from here on in He’s going to do it through his created beings. At least they are going to share in it. Now, when Christ was on earth He was the first example of this new body, He was the head, the first born of ever creature, the first begotten from the dead. He was the first one that became union of divinity and humanity.

(Larry) The only one at that point.

(Wilfred) At that point, Yes. The only one. Now it’s my own personal opinion, and I’m giving my opinion, I’m very suspicious that everything that God did was through the angels. These are the ministering spirits though whom He functions to work out the plan of salvation in his people. I’m suspicious of that.

What about revelation of truth? Does the Spirit first reveal it to your guardian angel and he relays it? For instance, when Gabriel came to Daniel, who was it that delivered the truth to him? It was the angel. And John the Revelator, and Sister White, but now, suppose they don’t come in an actual person. You don’t see them but you get the inspiration of the Spirit. Would you say that that direct from the spirit? Or would you say there might be an angel involved? I cannot point my finger to any direct proof at the moment. I don’t have a conclusion on it and I haven’t really worried about it.

(Ted) It comes through the Spirit, but just ....

(Wilfred) Whether it comes directly or through, that’s the point. But I don’t know whether it matters that much, at least it hasn’t become an issue with me yet.

(John) It says, “The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave unto Him to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass and He sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John.” So here it seems that God gave it to his Son in Heaven who signified it to the angel who took it to John. There’s the four, the Father, the Son, the angel, the human agent. And John was a prophet who showed it to us. And that self same Spirit then comes to us to help us understand it.

(Wilfred) Right. But does He come directly or through an angel?

(John) I think through an angel.

(Linda) What about the angels descending on the latter?

(Wilfred) Oh, good for you. You know she says that in the closing up of this work there is going to be constant communication between Heaven and earth through the angels. She also says that the angel carry your prayer to Jesus, your prayer does not go to Him directly, it goes through the angel.

(John) That picture is in Revelation where the angel with the censer.

(Wilfred) That’s right. 

(Linda) In Sister White's writings it says that Jesus wouldn't even, is it Jesus or God that wouldn't even understand the interpretation of our prayers if it wasn't for the angels?

(John) It does say, that even our most earnest prayers coming through the corrupt channel of humanity could not ascend before the Father if not purified by the blood of Christ.

(Wilfred) Which is again?

(John) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit.

Ted, you had a question?

(Ted) Yes, in another place she says; The Father's presence encircled Christ, and nothing befell him but that which infinite love permitted for the blessing of the world. Here was his source of comfort, and it is for us.  Which would seem to....   (Signs of the Times  May 20, 1908)

(Wilfred) But there again, the Father's direct presence is though the agency of the Hoy Spirit.

Ok! Let’s move on. Here’s one in Revelation 12:11 I think it is. Well, I better read it. I don’t have a quote on it and I don’t want to make a mistake. 11 “And they overcame him” That is the serpent, the devil. “By the blood of the Lamb,” Do you understand that now? “And by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.” Well, I just wanted to show the application there. Here you can read this text now. They over came him by the blood of the lamb. I never understood that text.

(The end of C/D #23 and the beginning of C/D #24)

(Wilfred) I couldn't figure out what that meant. How do you overcome by the blood of the lamb? Tell me. I have never heard anybody explain it in any manner that made sense to me.

(John) It says his life is the Holy Spirit.

Wilfred) Well, that explains it. That makes sense to me.

(Linda) What does “by the word of their testimony” mean?

(Wilfred) What do you think it means?

(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) The word of their testimony would be the revelation that they gained through the influence of the Spirit of the Word. So the word of their testimony is going to be just like I was illustrating here that when they read the word they have the understanding. That is, they can explain that they overcame by the blood of the lamb, which means they overcame by the power of the Spirit. Now, I think there is another slant to, “the word of their testimony. Do you remember what Brother Vendon dug out of Steps to Christ? What were the steps?

(A man in the audience) Study, pray, and witnessing.

(Wilfred) Study, pray, and witnessing. Now, there is something about sharing, witnessing, that cuts the grooves a little deeper here, and gives you a more positive ability to implement your decision. There may be that slant to it too. Yes?

(John) Well, there’s a great deal in The Spirit of Prophesy about testimony meanings and us telling what God has done for us. Here’s one statement in Desire of Ages 340. It say, “If we have been following Jesus step by step, we shall have something right to the point to tell concerning the way in which He has led us. We can tell how we have tested his promise, and found the promise true. We can bear witness to what we have known of the grace of Christ. This is the witness for which our Lord calls, and for want of which the world is perishing.” She says the whole world is perishing because this word of the testimony of Christians is lacking. And Brother, could I just bring a text on this very point you were just bringing up about the blood of the Lamb?

(Wilfred) Yes.

(John) It’s in Revelation 1:5, and it talks about Jesus. It says; “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.” And this is what I wanted us to notice. “Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,”

(Wilfred) Yes, Washed in the blood of the Lamb.

(John) So, it's the Holy Spirit that cleanses us from our sins.

(Wilfred) That’s right. It has to be, because it says that it is the Spirit that does the transforming. Now, I could read you other statements, we went over this in the last series last year. But it is the two things, the Word and the Spirit, remember that? It is by the Word that we are transformed and it is by the Spirit we are transformed. But the two are together, because the Word without the Spirit is dead. So, eventually the life giving power that does the job is the Spirit, but it does it though the Word, we are sanctified by the truth, thy Word is truth. Remember that? So, we mustn’t get too narrow, we must leave our minds open to take the whole thing in.

(John) That’s where the study part comes in.

(Wilfred) That’s where the study part comes in. Yes. Well, I’ll be through with these in just a minute here.

The Church on earth composed of those who are faithful and loyal to God is the true tabernacle wherein the Redeemer is the minister.” John read that to us I think a week or two ago. “God and not man pitched this tabernacle on a high elevated platform. This tabernacle is Christ’s body.” Does that identify it? “And from north, south, east, and west He gathers those who shall help to compose it. A holy tabernacle is built up of those who receive Christ as their personal Savior. Christ is the minister of the true tabernacle, the High Priest of all who believe in Him as a personal Savior.” That was printed in The Signs of the Times Feb. 24th 1900. And reprinted in volume 7 of the Bible Commentary, page 931. Then if we are the tabernacle, the true temple that is to be cleansed of sin. Don’t you see where the parallel work comes in? What’s He doing now? He cleansing the sanctuary from sin, He’s in the holy of holies.

(John) The holiest of all.

(Wilfred) The holiest of all. All right, and He’s administering what? The blood. What does it mean to administer the blood?

(John) To send the Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) To send the Holy Spirit. What for? To give the power to implement the decision to cease from sin and to cause the creative change in the patterns that are in there that need to get out so you will now love to do the law of God instead of pushing yourself to do it.

(John) Something just came to my mind. I need to ask you a question.

(Wilfred) Ok.

(John) Going back to the sanctuary services of the Jewish tabernacle where they took blood and put it on the horns of the alter and the blood of the lamb, these are all the symbol of the work of the Holy Spirit then.

(Wilfred) That is right!

(John) And if we go back and study the Jewish economy we will understand more of God’s work for us.

(Wilfred) Do you realize what she says? She says, that there are many things in that old Jewish economy that are not yet understood, but the gospel is the key that unlocks the mystery. And what is the gospel? The gospel is “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” And what is “Christ in you, the hope of glory?”

(John) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit. What is the gospel? The gospel is, He will forgive us our sins and give us power to live without sin. How does that come? By the Holy Spirit. Do you see the key? The sacrifice of Christ. She also says that we will understand the incarnation of Christ and his sacrifice and his mediatorial work far better than we do. I could read you that. We haven’t understood that. Do you see? But now the work is to be completed. And the Bible says that God will do nothing except He does what?

(Several voices in the audience) But he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

(Wilfred) Ok. So we are gaining a little more insight into it. Right? So, do you see that Joel chapter two is being fulfilled, right here? Do you see that? We’ve preached it, we’ve said it’s going to happen, it’s got to happen, and it’s happening in other places.

(Linda) Who is administering the Holy Spirit, God or Jesus?

(Wilfred) Jesus.

(Linda) I always thought the God was the administrator of the will.

(Wilfred) That’s right. Jesus is the intercessor. It’s in the hands of the Father.

(Linda) Then how could Jesus be the intercessor?

(Wilfred) Well, why not?

(John) It says that the Father gave all the treasures of Heaven into the hands of Christ.

(Larry) That’s when He went in, He wouldn’t accept the worship of Mary, He said, detain me not because I have not yet ascended to the Father. And when He got up there with all the angels of God and He waved them back until He went in. And it says He was guided by a light and His desire was, not only for Himself but would the Father accept the sacrifice in behalf of everybody and there is the complete ratification. And at that time the Father gave it all into his hands.

(Wilfred) Right. Well, He does it by intersession, He prays the Father. That’s what He said. I will pray the Father and He will give you another Comforter, even the Holy Ghost. See? The Father is hesitant to administer the Holy Ghost until the Son is willing to accept the consequences, because He is responsible, He has pledged Himself to be my surety forever. And it’s for Him to decide when the Holy Spirit is to be given to me. When He sees that I am ready. I have fulfilled the conditions and He is willing to take a chance on me at that point, He says, Father, send it to Wilf Johnson. In that sense He is administering it. Isn’t He?

You want me to repeat that?

(Larry) No, I think I got it.

(Wilfred) It’s on the tape.

And here it says in Hebrews 10:14 “For by one offering He hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” And I won’t comment on that. But it is a tremendous statement. Then in the next verse it says, that the Holy Ghost is a witness to us regarding the New Covenant. I don’t think that is exactly the quote but it's in there.

And here is another one, Patriarchs and Prophets page 372. “The same law that was engraved upon the tables of stone is written by the Holy Spirit upon the tables of the heart.” What law was written on the tables of stone? The ten commandment law. What law is written in the tables of the heart? The law of self-denying love. She says that it’s the same law. The ten commandments would not have to be given if they had remained in contact with the Lord as they were supposed to do, she says. The real law is the law of self-renouncing love. The ten commandments are how it is spelled out to people who have fallen quite a ways down the road and they need some guidance. But you see, the ten commandment law under conditions of sinfulness in a sinful environment sometimes have to be broken, and I say that advisedly. You do not keep the ten commandment law 100%. The thing that determines whether you are keeping the spiritual law or not is the motivation. If you are doing something of faith knowing it is the right thing to do according to the law of love. You are keeping the law, even though you may be transgressing a literal commandment. Want me to prove that? I’ve done it before. The devil is right when he says the Lord did not keep his own commandments. His commandments says thou shall not kill, and He told the people to go on in there and kill. His people, go on in there and kill. So, He did not keep His own commandment. Do you see my point? But He kept his own law.

The ten commandment law was a temporary expedient under those circumstances. Do you know where those ten commandments are going to be in heaven? They are going to be in the ark and they are going to be closed, face-to-face, and the lid is going to be shut. What does that represent?

(John) The mercy seat.

(Wilfred) In the heart, in the heart. You won’t kill; you won’t have to kill. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; there won’t be any sin there. But you can’t help killing in this world. You can’t even walk down the sidewalk without stepping on a spider or an ant, can you? But I must add this, all things are lawful to me says Paul, but all things are not expedient. Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Be very careful that you don’t use liberty to indulge in license. See? If you don’t have a clear conscience, beware. Paul said, in all things he strives to have a clear conscience before God and before man. Have I got the thought across?

Listen, I don’t want to lose your attention here, I want to get these things across to you. This may be my last chance to do this particular part of it. Again in Hebrews 7:25 it says that Jesus ever lives to make intercession for us. He ever lives to make intercession for us. I repeat, He ever lives to make intercession for us. Now what is this about his intercessory work closing at the close of probation?

(A man in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Good for you. That’s right, He lays down his robes.......

(John) Because his people are sealed in their foreheads.

(Wilfred) His people are sealed and He doesn’t need to do it. He’s now going to let them prove that He doesn’t need to do it. And if He didn’t put the robes down He could be accused of still standing between. Right? So, He sets them down. But He is always going to be our high priest, forever. We never need fear that if we should ever fall into sin we’re going to get the ax. That has been changed. Jesus died once for the sins of the world, and has committed Himself for eternity under the terms of the everlasting covenant, to forever stand good for those He accepts. You will never be cast out of the family of God from here on in. If there is anybody who is going to suffer for renewed transgression it’s going to be Jesus. And there will be the deterring factor, the deterring factor; which will guarantee that sin will never again arise is your adoration for your savior, the love of Jesus. The love of Christ in your heart will constrain you throughout eternity never to sin again. If ever you are tempted, you will never do it, you can’t do it, because you know the character of Christ, and you know what it does to Him. See that there is no compulsion now, do you see that? And do you see the position He placed Himself in? Think of what He had to decide there in Gethsemane. Can you see that? That’s what He decided right there, that He would forever accept the sins of his people. And if the Father refused to honor the terms of the Everlasting Covenant and give you the Holy Spirit you could never get out of sin. And He had to trust his Father that He would do it. He faced eternal death on that cross, do you get that now? So far as he was concerned, if it hadn’t been for his faith in his father He was a goner, eternal suffering that was his lot. That is what the devil threatens people with today, eternal suffering, that’s the kind of God you've got, he says. You better come in or else. You're going to hell fire forever and you are going to sizzle. The devil knows what he is talking about but he misplaces it. He knows what kind of a God we’ve got, and we know it. Why don’t we respond? What’s the matter with us?

(Linda) I don’t quite understand, I can see his physical suffering on the cross but I don’t understand, we talk about Him being crucified afresh and suffering now for things that we do wrong, just how is He suffering?

(Wilfred) Would you believe it if we read it to you?

(Linda) Oh, I believe He is, I just want to know how He is suffering.

(Wilfred) Again you are asking for details.

(Several voices speaking at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) All right, Linda, I’ll repeat it, I’ve said it more than once in the past but I realize that I’m saying thousands of different things and we can’t expect 100% to stick. I’ve taught long enough to know that. So, I’ll repeat again. Within a short time. I was going to get to that tonight but I’m not now, because I haven’t got the time.

The Sword of the Lord is going to come out and come upon his people and they are going to enter a period of sharing the suffering of Christ in a way that they have never shared it before. So that they are going to get a personal experience of what He went through. They will know first hand the kind of suffering and until you get that kind of experience there is no way I can describe it. But the cross, she says, is a revelation to our dull senses, and mine are dull too, notice I said too. I’m sorry Linda. To our dull senses of the pain that entered the heart of God at the inception of sin. In other words, what was the cross for? Was that the be all and end all of Christ’s suffering? Oh, it represented something more than that. It was a terrible thing to face, it was, It was a terrible thing to face. But it represents something that has been taking place since sin began. And she goes on to say, and it doesn’t end there, it continues on, until we quit sinning. You see, He has bound Himself to his people. He doesn’t suffer directly for the sins of the world anymore, He suffered once for the sins of the world on the cross, but He suffers directly for the sins of all those who accept Him as their personal savior. He then takes them into his family, they become his child and everything they do wrong hits Him. Just like it does a parent, and you understand that. And until we get rid of that He’s going to continue to suffer and you are going to find out exactly what kind of suffering that is when this great and dreadful day of the Lord bursts upon you. Which it is going to do very soon. That’s the reason I’m here, to tell you that it’s coming, all the signs are there. To show you the message of preparation which I have been doing my best to give you. And after that that’s all I can do. It’s up to you. And when it comes you will either swim or sink, and that’s up to you. If you make the necessary preparation, as we have been warned, and warned, and warn to do, you will survive. If you don’t you will go down with Isaiah 57:1 and 2, I think it is or you will be completely lost, depending on whether you give up the Lord or not. And that again is your decision.

Well, John has a statement here in Education page 263, and I won’t read it again, I’ll read the last part. “Every departure from the right, every deed of cruelty, every failure of humanity to reach his ideal, brings grief to Him.” That’s one form of suffering and grief.

Now, I think that’s all I’m going to do on these and that sure took a lot longer than I expected. But that’s all right. What we don’t get done tonight we will get done next time.

Now there are two avenues I could move into or you may want to just leave them all to next week and use the rest of the time for discussion. What have we left here, about thirty-five minutes for the two hour session. Would you want to just discuss or would you want me to go in and give you the conditions for receiving the Spirit? I don’t think I’ll tackle The Sword of the Lord tonight it will be a little too long. I’ll do whatever you want.  

(Larry) Brother Johnson maybe we could explore that a little more, maybe we can get it even a little clearer, I think this is a point that maybe we could spend a little time....

(Wilfred) The sufferings of Christ?

(Larry) Yes, and how we wound Him again by our daily misconducts.

(Wilfred) I don’t think I can explain it any further than I have already done. Until I go through The Sword of the Lord. This stuff all ties in you know, like the rungs of a spider web. After I have gone through that then I think I could explain it a little better.

(A woman in the audience) What we have to do is get the word into our mind and then the Lord will work with us to understand these things through patience.

(Wilfred) Yes. When the Holy Spirit begins to start flowing out and gushing out, you will be seeing things you haven't seen before and the things will take on a new meaning for you and you will become settled into the truth so that nothing can move you. But you won’t get the Spirit unless you fulfill the conditions. Do you want those? I thought you would.

Well, I’m starting with Gospel Workers page 284. There is a whole chapter here, if you have the book I recommend that you read the whole chapter.

I will just take some extracts from it. Near the bottom of the page she says this, “Christ promised the gift of the Holy Spirit to his church and the promise belongs as much to us as to the first disciples. But like every other promise, it is given on conditions. There are many who profess to believe and claim the Lord's promises; they talk about Christ and the Holy Spirit; yet they receive no benefit,” Listen. “because they do not surrender their souls to the guidance and control of divine agencies.” So, What’s the first condition?

(John) Surrender.

(Wilfred) Surrender their souls to what?

(John) Control.

(Wilfred) The guidance and control of divine agencies.

We cannot use the Holy Spirit; the Spirit is to use us. Through the Spirit, God works in his people "to will and to do of His good pleasure." But many will not submit to be led. They want to manage themselves. This is why they do not receive the heavenly gift. Only to those who wait humbly upon God, who watch for His guidance and grace, is the Spirit given.” All right, let’s get that one now. Only to those who wait humbly upon God. You don’t command God, you wait humbly for His timing, “Who watch for His guidance”, you keep an eye out. Watch for His guidance and grace. Grace means forgiveness, favor. Only for those who watch for this is the Spirit given. “This promised blessing, claimed by faith.” All right, you have to claim it. And by faith you have to believe He will fulfill it. Claimed by faith, “Brings all other blessings in its train.” When the Spirit comes” What do you get? All the other blessings. That’s right. ”It is given according to the riches of the grace of Christ, and He is ready to supply every soul according to the capacity to receive.” So who sets the limits?

(Several voices speaking at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) The soul does. She goes on to say, “The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.”

(John) Reference?

(Wilfred) This is Gospel Workers page 284 and 285. “Those only who are thus taught of God, those only who possess the inward working of the Spirit, and in whose life the Christ life is manifested, can stand as true representatives of the Saviour.” And what is it that we have to do in this final generation? We have to stand as true representatives of the Savior. But we can’t do it unless we fulfill this. “Those only who are thus taught of God, those only who possess the inward working of the Spirit and in who’s life the Christ’s life is manifested can stand as true representatives of the Savior.”

286 “Christ promised that the Holy Spirit should abide with those” Ok, get this now. “who wrestle for victory over sin.” What do they do?

(John) Wrestle.

(Wilfred) Do you know what wrestling means? It’s setting right back and taking it easy and saying, “Ok, Lord you do it.” Is that right? Well, I’ve heard that expressed and there is a certain amount of truth to it. But we mustn’t get one sided, we’ve got to take both sides of the question. There is a wrestling for victory over sin involved. And, unless we do that, we don’t get the Holy Spirit. Did you get that point? Now I’ve told you this before, and here I’m reading to you the verification of it. And why? “To demonstrate the power of divine might by endowing the human agent with supernatural strength” So what happens when the Spirit comes on top of the wrestling? You are endowed with supernatural strength. “And instructing the ignorant in the mysteries of the kingdom of God.” What else does he do? He instructs the ignorant in the mysteries of the Kingdom of God. “Of what avail would it be to us that the only begotten Son of God humbled Himself, endured the temptations of the wily foe, and died, the just for the unjust, if the Spirit had not been given as a constant, working, regenerating agent, to make effectual in each individual case what has been wrought out by the world's Redeemer?” And she says that in another place too. That it is the Spirit that comes to make effectual what Christ has wrought out in his sacrifice. And there is more than one thing He wrought out, you see.

I’m going to have to skip some of this. “Today this Spirit is constantly at work, seeking to draw the attention of men to the great sacrifice made upon the cross of Calvary, to unfold to the world the love of God to man, and to open to the convicted soul the promises of the Scriptures.” Well that’s the Spirit’s job. “It is the Spirit that causes to shine into darkened minds the bright beams of the Sun of Righteousness; that makes men's hearts burn within them with an awakened realization of the truths of eternity;” Have you had that experience? Where Sun of Righteousness comes in with his bright beams and makes your heart burn with an awakened realization of the truths of eternity. “That presents before the mind the great standard of righteousness, and convinces of sin; that inspires faith in Him who alone can save from sin; that works to transform character by withdrawing the affections of men from those things which are temporal and perishable, and fixing them upon the eternal inheritance.” What is the job of the Spirit there? To transform a character, to withdraw our affections, that is our likes, our loves, from those things which are temporal and perishable, In other words, the things of the world. and fixing them upon the eternal inheritance. Now if we haven’t had that experience it’s because we haven’t received the outpouring of the Spirit in sufficient measure. “The Spirit recreates, refines, and sanctifies human beings, fitting them to become members of the royal family, children of the heavenly King.” Now, we become members of the royal family and children of the heavenly king even before we are fitted but the Spirit comes to make us fit.

She says in another place, that the imputed righteousness gives us our title to Heaven and the imparted righteousness, which is what we have been talking about, gives us our fitness for heaven. And here it ties in again. “When one is fully emptied of self, when every false god is cast out of the soul, the vacuum is filled by the inflowing of the Spirit of Christ.” Ok, there is another condition. We have to empty ourselves, get rid of every false god out of the Soul. Then the vacuum can be filled by the inflowing of the Spirit of Christ. “Such a one has the faith that purifies the soul from defilement. He is conformed to the Spirit, and he minds the things of the Spirit. He has no confidence in self. Christ is all and in all. He receives with meekness the truth that is constantly being unfolded, and gives the Lord all the glory, saying, "God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit." Do you see the attitude? “The Spirit that reveals also works in him the fruits of righteousness. Christ is in him,” There again we have the identification of Christ with the Spirit. Don’t we? He says, the Spirit that reveals also works in him the fruits of righteousness. Then the very next sentence says, Christ is in him. "A well of water springing up into everlasting life." So again she identifies the Spirit and Christ. “He is a branch of the True Vine,” Talking about the person. “And bears rich clusters of fruit to the glory of God. What is the character of the fruit borne? - The fruit of the Spirit is "love," not hatred; "joy," not discontent and mourning; "peace," not irritation, anxiety, and manufactured trials. You know we have an ability to manufactured trials, and agility as a matter of fact. “It is "long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance. The love of Christ is the force and power of every message for God that ever fell from human lips. Day after day is passing into eternity, bringing us nearer to the close of probation. As never before we must pray for the Holy Spirit”

What’s the next condition? Pray. “To be more abundantly bestowed upon us," That recognizes that it is already bestowed, doesn’t it? But it is the more abundant outpouring we need. “And we must look for its sanctifying influence” We must look for this. "To come upon the workers, that those for whom they labor may know that they have been with Jesus and have learned of Him. Those who are under the influence of the Spirit of God will not be fanatical,” Watch that. It happens so often that when someone gets a new experience and gets to see new things he goes completely overbroad and becomes fanatical. They will not be fanatical “but calm and steadfast, free from extravagance in thought, word, or deed.” That’s an important statement. “Amid the confusion of delusive doctrines, the Spirit of God will be a guide and a shield to those who have not resisted the evidences of truth,” But don’t you know, those who resist the evidences of truth, even thought the evidence is there they still resist it, then what does this imply? That the Spirit will not be a guide and shield. To those who have not resisted the evidences of truth He will be a guide and a shield. “Silencing every other voice except that which comes from Him who is the truth." In other words, the soul is protected against the delusions that come from the devil, all the false voices and the false spirits, He is protected from that by the Spirit.

“We are living in the last days, when error of a most deceptive character is accepted and believed, while truth is discarded.” - “Well, you know that don’t you? People believe anything now days. The Lord will hold both ministers and people responsible for the light shining upon them. He calls upon us to work diligently in gathering up the jewels of truth,” How are these jewels of truth going to be gathered? By working diligently. And what are we to do with them? She goes on to say, “And placing them in the framework of the gospel.” Now that’s what we have been doing I hope you’ve noticed. That the things we talk about have all come to have a relationship to salvation from sin. They all have zeroed in on that.

Christ’s Object Lessons page 133, I wanted to just take time out to read that, with reference to the gospel there. “The significance of the Jewish economy is not yet fully comprehended.” Isn’t that what we talked about a few minutes ago? “Truths vast and profound are shadowed forth in its rites and symbols." What kind of truths? Vast and profound. “The gospel is the key that unlocks its mysteries." In other words, the Jewish economy cannot be understood unless it is understood in relation to the gospel, the plan of salvation. “Through a knowledge of the plan of redemption, its truths are opened to the understanding.” Now get this. ”Far more than we do, it is our privilege to understand these wonderful themes. We are to comprehend the deep things of God. Angels desire to look into the truths that are revealed to the people who with contrite hearts are searching the word of God, and praying for greater lengths and breadths and depths and heights of the knowledge which He alone can give. She goes on to say, “As we near the close of this world's history, the prophecies relating to the last days especially demand our study.” And that is what we’ve been studying about, hopefully. “The last book of the New Testament scriptures is full of truth that we need to understand.” And we’ve studied about that in our Sabbath school lesson not to long ago. “There is nothing lost of that which comes from God. When we are endowed with the Spirit and we take hold of faith by faith in infinite power nothing will be lost. The Savior of the world sends His messages to the soul that darkness of error may be dispelled. The work of the Spirit is immeasurably great, it is from this source that power and efficiency come to the worker for God.”

All right. I’ll be through here in just a few minutes I hope. Let me read now some statements directly from some of the other writings that are very specific. Here’s one from Early Writings page 71, “I saw that many were neglecting the preparation so needful and were looking to the time of "refreshing" and the "latter rain" to fit them to stand in the day of the Lord and to live in His sight.” Does that apply to you right now? Is that what you're looking for? Looking for the latter rain and the refreshing to fit you to stand in the day of the Lord? Listen to what she says, “Oh, how many I saw in the time of trouble without a shelter! They had neglected the needful preparation; therefore they could not receive the refreshing that all must have to fit them to live in the sight of a holy God. I saw that none could share the "refreshing" unless they obtain the victory over every besetment,” Is it sinking in? “I saw that none could share the "refreshing" unless they obtain the victory over every besetment, over pride, selfishness, love of the world, and over every wrong word and action.” Wow, Are you looking for the latter rain? Can you see why it hasn’t come? “We should, therefore, be drawing nearer and nearer to the Lord and be earnestly seeking that preparation necessary to enable us to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord. Let all remember that God is holy and that none but holy beings can ever dwell in His presence. Don’t get discouraged yet, cheer up.

First Testimonies for the Church page 619, “I was shown that if God's people make no efforts on their part, but wait for the refreshing to come upon them and remove their wrongs and correct their errors; if they depend upon that to cleanse them from filthiness of the flesh and spirit, and fit them to engage in the loud cry of the third angel, they will be found wanting. The refreshing or power of God comes only on those who have prepared themselves for it by doing the work which God bids them, namely, cleansing themselves” Cleansing who? Themselves. Who’s doing it? They are. “From all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” Perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Only those people are going to share in the refreshing, she says.

One more here from 5 Testimonies for the Church, page 214, “Not one of us will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot or stain upon them.” I’d better say wow, again. “Not one of us will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot or stain upon them.” Well, you say ok, but the Spirit is going to help us straighten out.  Let me read on. “It is left with us to remedy the defects in our characters,” To whom is it left? To us to remedy the defects in our characters. “To cleanse the soul temple of every defilement.” I thought it was Christ who was going to cleanse the soul temple, didn’t you? And we said we can’t do it. Now we’re stuck, aren’t we? We’re up a dead end street. Listen, I’m going to read some more now. To cleanse the soul temple of every defilement. “Then the latter rain will fall upon us as the early rain fell upon the disciples on the Day of Pentecost.” Then and not until then. Now, have we got a job to do?

(John) Yes.

(Wilfred) It looks like we have a job to do. But I want to read some other statements now because I don’t want to leave you like that or you’ll go home with a handkerchief in one hand and tears in the other.

Desire of Ages, page 97, “No man can of himself cast out the evil throng that have taken possession of the heart. Only Christ can cleanse the soul temple. But He will not force an entrance. He comes not into the heart as to the temple of old; but He says, "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock:” .... Remember where that comes from?

(A man in the audience) Revelation.

(Wilfred) And the message is to whom?

(John) To Laodicea.

(Wilfred) To us.

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him." Now, what is He going to do when He comes in? Cleanse the temple. Can you reconcile those statements?

I want to read another one. Christ’s Object lessons page 94, This is the old edition, “In all who will submit themselves to the Holy Spirit a new principle of life is to be implanted; the lost image of God is to be restored in humanity.”

“But man cannot transform himself by the exercise of his will. He possesses no power by which this change can be effected. The renewing energy must come from God. The change can be made only by the Holy Spirit. All who would be saved, high or low, rich or poor must submit to the working of this power. As the leaven, when mingled with the meal, works from within outward, so it is by the renewing of the heart that the grace of God works to transform the life. No mere external change is sufficient to bring us into harmony with God. There are many who try to reform by correcting this or that bad habit, and they hope in this way to become Christians, but they are beginning in the wrong place. Our first work is with the heart”.

"The heart must be converted and sanctified. The man who attempts to keep the commandments of God from a sense of obligation merely - because he is required to do so - will never enter into the joy of obedience. He does not obey. When the requirements of God are accounted a burden because they cut across human inclination, we may know that the life is not a Christian life. True obedience is the outworking of a principle within. It springs from the love of righteousness, the love of the law of God. The essence of all righteousness is loyalty to our Redeemer. This will lead us to do right because it is right - because right doing is pleasing to God.” Now, there you’ve got it.

I’ve got to cleanse my own soul temple from every defilement, and I can’t do it before I get the Holy Spirit in the latter rain, and I can’t do it. Can you reconcile those two statements?

(John) I can reach a decision that that’s what I want.

(Wilfred) That’s right. And you can go beyond that.

(Another man in the audience) I can move in that direction as far as I am able.

(Wilfred) That’s right. That is your part in cleansing the soul temple. And it is possible, under the influence of the former rain to obey every commandment of God. And that's as far as you can cleanse your soul temple. You cannot transform the heart, I read it to you, you cannot change your heart any more than a leopard can change his spots. So, the farthest you can go is to keep God’s commandments, even though they go against your grain, even though there is resistance, you have to buck it, you’ve got to wrestle to overcome, didn’t I read that tonight? That’s your part. And you’ve got to overcome those sins to qualify for the latter rain. Because the Lord is not going to transform that heart and give you the power that Adam had and that Lucifer had until He knows that you are not going to abuse it like they did. And you’ve got to prove to the universe that He is justified in giving it to you, and you prove it by your obedience. I can read it from the Bible. in Acts, “The Holy Spirit is given to those that obey Him.” That’s what Peter said.

(Linda) If I am struggling to overcome something and I just can’t do it and I try, and I try, and I try. Am I not trying hard enough or do I not have the power?

(Wilfred) You don’t have the power.

(Linda) Then it’s not my fault.

(Wilfred) In a sense, that’s right. But are you fulfilling all the other conditions for the reception of the spirit? That we read tonight.

(Linda) If I want to overcome that sin more than anything and I strive day after day, after day, after day, and I just fall down....

(Wilfred) Ok. Then you go to God and you say, Lord, you’ve seen what I have been trying to do. And you do like Jacob did, and you may not agree with me on this point but I believe that the time of Jacob’s trouble starts before probation closes, his trouble was he wanted the assurance of forgiveness of sins and the power to get rid of his guilt so he could face his brother who was coming to kill him. And we can get into that same predicament can’t we?

(John) Yes.

(Wilfred) And what did he do? He wrestled with God. He pleaded with God. He wouldn't let Him go until He blessed him. Try it.

(Larry) He had to forsake all known sins this is ....

(Wilfred) But she is talking about the one she is trying to forsake and can’t.

I had two ice cream popsicles today, one right after the other, they were in the fridge there, and I saw them, they looked good.  

Yes, brother?

(A man in the audience) Doesn’t God let us struggle on a little bit to recognize our weakness?

(Wilfred) Why sure! And when we are good and sure that we can’t do it we turn to Him. And if He doesn’t give it to us right away we think, what kind of a God is He anyway? Why doesn’t He fulfill His promises? And we get a little animosity sometimes. Don’t we?

(Linda) When He is sure He can trust us He’ll give it us.

(Wilfred) Yes. He’s, again, trying to develop the right characteristics in us through this experience of struggling with sin. That’s what He trying to do. We have got to develop total surrender, patience, humility, and I read these things here tonight.

(Linda) Define “Surrender”.

(Wilfred) Define “Surrender’? Ok. For the tenth time. But you may not have been with me when I said it ten times.

Surrender, is doing God’s will instead of your own. When God says, don’t eat two popsicles, in a row, I haven’t found where He says that but He says something that gives me the idea that maybe that’s what He meant. When He says, don’t eat two popsicles in a row, when you don’t need them. There might be a time when that will be necessary. Now I can feature a time when that might be a Legitimate thing to do. But when He says that and that is what I want to do, I want to eat two popsicles in a row, and God says don’t eat to popsicles in a row, surrender means don’t eat two popsicles in a row.

(A woman in the audience) But that requires power.

(Wilfred) Will power. And she says, you don’t yet appreciate the power of your will. Do you know that there is power in your will to obey every one of God’s commandments? I know that because she says that any commandment contains within itself the power to do it.
(A woman in the audience) So we are going to have the power all the time to do it.

(Wilfred) That’s right. That applies not only to you Sister, but applies to everyone of us.

(Larry) Can you give us the quotation on that?

(Wilfred) What quotation was that?

(Larry) She says every commandment has the power needed....

(Wilfred) I’ll have to look it up.

(John) Well, here’s one, a paraphrase, It says, All of his biddings are enabling.

(Wilfred) That’s right.

(John) Really, the problem is lack of faith, we don’t have faith that God has given us that power to implement the ....

(Wilfred) She says it exactly that way. She says we have not laid hold of the power by faith. She says just that. That’s exactly what she says.

(John) It’s a lack of faith that causes us to stumble and fall.

(Wilfred) Ted’s got something for us.

(Many voices) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Yes, Love is the power.

(Ted) It’s been reassuring what you’ve been talking about. She says, If you will seek the Lord and be converted every day; if you will of your own spiritual choice be free and joyous in God; if with gladsome consent of heart to His gracious call you come wearing the yoke of Christ, - the yoke of obedience and service, - all your murmurings will be stilled, all your difficulties will be removed, all the perplexing problems that now confront you will be solved. Thoughts from the Mount of Blessings, page 101.
(Linda) That’s why I asked you a while ago what it was that Christ was doing for me because I know if I can just get a vision of that love He’s got for me that will make me stop sinning. I don’t want anything to come between us. I need to know.

(Wilfred) We’re going to go over that next week if all goes well, that’s what I plan to do next week. The Sword of the Lord. Which is going to give you a vision of Christ you are going to see his love in a way that you’ve never seen it before. But you’ve got to be prepared to go into that experience or it will knock you for a loop. You’re going to be baptized with the baptism and you’re going to drink the cup. But when you go through that experience you’re going to find out what He did. And that’s going to open up to you a revelation of His tremendous love. How could He do it? And if He did that for me how could I sin against Him? And Love will start simmering in your heart, and love is the power of the gospel. When you love somebody enough, you will do anything for them, even die for them. Does that make sense?

Well, I think I have said enough for one day. It’s just about two hours. So, I’m ready to quit. If you want to continue to discuss something, find. If you want to go, that’s fine with me. If you want, John, we can dismiss with prayer. Then anybody who wants to leave can leave and if there is anybody who wants to continue discussing something that could be mutually arraigned I suppose.

(The end of this two C/D series on the Review, Plus Conditions for Receiving The Holy Spirit)

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