Review Plus Conditions for
Recieving The Holy Spirit
J. Wilfred Johnson
Jan. 28th, 1976
C/Ds #23 and #24
September 16, 2012 thru Sept. 22, 2012
last week we were dealing with the Everlasting Covenant
specifically with the provision the Lord made for the salvation of his
people through the eternal sacrifice of Christ, which involved the
availability of the full abundance of the Holy Spirit. And we noted
that the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost is actually the ghost of Christ, the
image of Christ, the soul of his eternal life, which is equal to Christ
in a sense. That is, when it says that Christ will come to dwell with
us it means that the Holy Spirit is going to come to dwell with us. And
I think we gave evidence of that. So when we are speaking about the
Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost we are actually speaking about the
divinity of Christ, the divine nature of Christ, his eternal life,
which He has made available for us.
Now this thought is probably a little difficult to define in detail and
don’t think we should attempt to do it. But I think we need to accept
what the Bible says and what The
Spirit of Prophesy says whether we
really understand all the details or not. Christ made it very plain
that He had to go away or else the Comforter would not come. He said
that Himself. And it is impossible for Christ in the human body to be
everywhere at once, and only through the agency of the Holy Spirit,
Holy Ghost can He perform that promise of being with each one of us
individually. Prior to his coming to this world this agency of the
Godhead was Christ’s possession. And when Christ created the world it
was through the agency of the Holy Ghost that the connections were
made, it was the Holy Ghost – The Holy Spirit that moved upon the face
of the waters at creation.
These little keys are given in the Bible; we find little keys here,
there, and everywhere that if we will pick them up we’ll get the
thought. And pretty soon the thing unfolds and we see it. I suppose
there will be some questions in some of your minds yet concerning that
thought but if you go into your Bibles now and into The Spirit of
Prophesy you’re going to come across things that you never
before, but you understand them now, in the light of what we’ve
discussed. I’m going to take time to refer to maybe a few of these to
show you what I mean.
In I Corinthians 12:11–13
I think we'll find one. Paul says here,
11 “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,” He’s
been talking about these different gifts, wisdom, knowledge, and
faith, and gifts of healing and prophesying and miracles and discerning
of Spirits, and diverse kinds of tongues and interpretation of
tongues. “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit
dividing to every man severally as he will.” 12 “For as the body is
one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being
many, are one body: so also is Christ.” Now, there is something
profound in that statement itself. Christ, all inclusive, the head and
the body, it's all one Christ, Christ in you, Christ in Jesus. Do you
see the point? He gave his life to be divided among his saints. 13
“For by one Spirit are we all baptized into” How many bodies? “One
body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free;
and have been all made to,” What? "Drink into one
Spirit.” Does that remind you of something?
(John) The last supper.
(Wilfred) Yes. This is the New Testament in my blood. And what was his
(John) His life.
(Wilfred) His life. And the New Testament was what?
(John) The New Covenant.
(Wilfred) The New Covenant. And it made provision for the release of
this spirit for the impartation to his people. And it says that the
impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of what?
(John) The life of Christ.
(Wilfred) The life of Christ. We read that last week. 14 “For the body
is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not
the hand. I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body? 16 And
if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body;
is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye,
where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the
smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the
body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one
member,” All the same kind. “Where were the body? 20
But now are they many members, yet but one body.” And in other
places he tells us that, more specifically, that this is the body of
Christ. And that the Holy Spirit is the unifying agent, that it is the
blood, that it is the life that flows throughout the whole body.
All right. Here’s another thought I picked up from Jeremiah 31:3, 3 He
says, “Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:” How long
does this love last?
Wilfred) How long does the Covenant last?
(John) It’s everlasting.
(Wilfred) Can you tie that love with the Covenant?
(Another man in the audience) His love is life, His life is love.
(Wilfred) That’s it! We read about it last week. When the Spirit comes
what does it bring? Love, The love of God. That’s the very first one.
And we read that the life of Christ is his love. The life of God is his
love. So that when you receive the Spirit, you are receiving the life
of God. And the Life of God is his love, Love is an emotional force, it
is a form of energy. It is power, it will drive people; energize them,
so that they can function. And Jesus said He had come to give us
life and to give it to us more abundantly, so when He gives us the
added power we can implement decisions and we won’t flunk out. The
Spirit is given as a power to keep us from sinning, but it won’t do it
without our decision. Our decision is the key that taps into the power;
it’s the plug that you put into the socket, to tap in. But the Lord
isn’t going to turn the power on until we are ready to function in the
I had planned tonight to say a few things about the conditions for
receiving the Spirit. But I’ll run through these first. Let me finish
this one. 3 ".....Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:
therefore with lovingkindness have I” Pushed thee. No. “Drawn thee.” That’s the only power God uses, the drawing power of
Love. And He’s going to go all out to deliver the totality of his
Spirit to us in the outpouring of the latter rain. And when that has
been done there is no other resource in Heaven to save a man. Those who
are not saved under that influence will not be saved. He’s got nothing
else to do it with. He’s been gradually unfolding more and more of the
resources that his Father made available to Him to prove to us that
there is no love greater than the love of God in the whole universe.
And we will receive our greatest joy and happiness in loving Him.
Remember that statement? He’s gradually unfolding these resources to us
and the final outpouring of the Spirit is his last effort. And we will
find out tonight what we should do in order to get it. It hasn’t come
and it should have come a long time ago, it hasn’t come. But it is
And here is another one, Hebrews
13:20, 21, One of you folks brought
this to my attention. There are quite a number of them in here. But I
thought we would share it with everybody.
Hebrews 13 verse 20,
“Now the God of peace, that brought again from the
dead our Lord Jesus," I hope you don’t mind me stopping quite
to draw out the points, I don’t want you to miss them. Who brought the
Lord from the dead?
(Several voices in the audience) God.
(Wilfred) And what does the Bible say?
(Several voices talking at once) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) It says the God of peace. It says that God did it and there
are quite a few places in the New Testament where it says that it was
God who raised Jesus from the
So here you have one of those contradictions, one of those paradoxes in
which you have to use both eyes to look at them, to fuse them to get a
more realistic image of the thought.
(A woman in the audience) The way it states that God did it explains
(Wilfred) Ok. “That great shepherd of the sheep,” Who’s that
talking about? Jesus. “through the blood of the everlasting
covenant,” Now, does that refer to bringing Him again from the
dead, or does it refer to what comes next? “Make you perfect in every
(A woman in the audience) Both.
(Wilfred) Good for you. The Bible is full of this. This multiple
meaning, this multiple application. One person will see a thought one
way and somebody else will see it another direction and Sister White
says, that’s the way the Word is. And no mind can see the whole thing.
But we have to be willing to open our mind to accept what is in there.
It was through the blood of the Everlasting Covenant that God raised
Jesus from the dead and it's also through the blood of the Everlasting
Covenant that we will be made - “perfect in every good work to do
His will working in you that which is well-pleasing in his sight,
through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”
Now, what was this blood of the Everlasting Covenant again?
(John) His spirit.
(Wilfred) His Spirit. Can you see that the spirit of life of Christ was
the agency that brought Him from the tomb? Where was that Spirit of his
life when He was in the tomb?
(A woman in the audience) With the Father.
(Wilfred) With the Father. Who’s was it?
(Wilfred) His, it was Christ’s. Was it within Himself?
(Many voices in the audience) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Here we are touching on a mystery now that we will have to be
There were not two Christs, there was only one. But the divine nature
of Christ did not die. She says, it cannot die. But the human nature of
Christ died. And in his humanity He was totally unconscious, and He had
relinquished his former life so the life that exists in the Holy Ghost
is the ghost of the life of Christ, so to speak, is the ghost of
Christ. Christ Jesus was not conscious in Heaven when He is in the tomb.
Do you understand? He is asleep. So Jesus in the tomb cannot make a
decision to decide that He is coming out of the tomb. That’s obvious.
(A woman in the audience) The angels....
(Wilfred) Your Father calls. You see? But the arrangement had been made
in the Everlasting Covenant in the terms. Christ had set down the
terms, and the Father was the administrator who carried out his wishes.
And it was the life that was within Himself that the Father had given
Him that He had returned to the Father that had brought Him forth from
the tomb. Now do you see it?
(A woman in the Audience) Well, does our everlasting life go back to
(Wilfred) We do not have everlasting life in ourselves.
(Same woman) But won’t we get it?
(Wilfred) Yes. But it will be Christ’s that we get, not ours.
(Same woman) Well, did that actually stay with Him or
did He give it up. What He had when He was honored, did that actually
go back ....
(Wilfred) Remember what He said....
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Yes. That’s right. And another thing He said at the cross, My
God, My God, why have thou forsaken me? He was left in his humanity to
die the death of a sinner. Well, again I say we are dealing with
something we cannot get all the details on. But we can state the facts
as given in the Bible and The
Spirit of Prophesy. And from there on we
better not speculate because we might get into trouble.
(Same woman) One more question, The eternal life that
He was given from his Father as He came of age and got older and older,
did that go back to his Father as He was dying on the cross? Or was
that still inside of Him.
(Wilfred) I thought we just answered that, didn’t we?
(Same woman) Well, I guess I didn’t get it.
(Wilfred) Into his Father's hands He commended his Spirit.
(Same woman) So, He did get it back.
(Wilfred) Yes, but this can apply to his physical spirit, too. His
human life. Where it said He gave up the ghost in the Bible. It’s a
lower case letter it’s not capitalized. But He relinquished the
totality of his eternal life before He ever came to this world.
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) That was his first death. The death of sleep. When He went
unconscious. When He was in Mary’s womb he was unconscious, When He
was in the cradle there He was conscience but just very little, you
know, as the baby begins to dawn into consciousness. He certainly had
none of the powers of his former body. He had no power to make a
decision to decide whether He wanted it or not. This was all taken care
of in the terms of the covenant that the Father was working out
according to the Sons volunteer plan. Do you understand?
(Same woman) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) If He were He could not have died.
(Same woman) Before He gave it up was He alive?
(Wilfred) In Heaven?
(Same woman) Before He gave it up on the cross.
(Wilfred) That question is a little difficult
because you see, He was
dual, He was humanity and divinity combined. In his humanity He was
mortal, in his divinity He was immortal. Let me put it this way, by a
decision of the will He could have used his immortal power to withstand
disease and the inroads, she has a statement on that. And He could have
used that power in his own behalf against the devil and to overcome sin
and temptation. He could have done that by a decision, because it was
his, but He did not do it. He used only the strength or power that was
delivered to Him by God, without Christ taking it, do you understand?
(John) She says,
He used only that power which is
freely available to us.
(Wilfred) Yes. And she also says He overcame in the strength given
Him from God. She says that.
Now, is there any questions on that or is it still hazy?
(Same woman) ..... if He was initiated by the Holy
Ghost then He would be immortal....
(Wilfred) His divinity. See, you get half your inheritance from your
father and half from your mother you know. And I don’t understand that
combination and Mrs. White says that it is a mystery. That’s not to say
that the Lord can’t reveal that mystery. But he hasn’t revealed it to
me. And I don’t understand it, maybe somebody else does. All I know
is that here are two natures and we can have those same two natures, I
know that too, because she said so. And unless we do have those two
natures we’ll never overcome sin because the only way we can overcome
sin is to partake of the divine nature, She says it in so many words.
And it’s the same Spirit, the eternal life Spirit of Christ, the very
soul of the life of Christ that God will deliver to you and me in
response to our prayer and the added intersession of Jesus, she says
it. And that’s how we get the anointing of the Holy Ghost and the power
to get rid of sin. All the decisions we make in the world to get rid of
sin will never do it. It’s true she says the expulsion of sin is
an act of the soul itself. That’s right, it is because God isn’t going
to sin, He’s not going to make a decision to sin. We made the decision
to sin, the only one to make the decision not to sin is us, but we
haven’t that power to implement that decision, until we receive it.
(John) This will make it plain, from Desire of Ages,
page 466.4, She says, “The expulsion of sin is the act of the soul
itself. True, we have no power to free ourselves from Satan's control;
but when we desire to be set free from sin, and in our great need cry
out for a power out of and above ourselves, the powers of the soul are
imbued with the divine energy of the Holy Spirit, and they obey the
dictates of the will in fulfilling the will of God.”
(Wilfred) Perfect. That was exactly what I was trying to say.
(John) You did say that.
(Wilfred) Did I? Good. Now, here is another
one, Hebrews 10:19
20. I just want to show you two or three of these so you’ll get the
idea of how the Bible can open up with renewed understanding when you
get the key. And this is one of the major keys to understanding the
starting at 19, maybe 18, He’s talking here about
the New Covenant, did you notice? 16 “This is the covenant that I will
make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws
into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their
sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of
these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore,
brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus," Oh,
I don’t think I want to get sidetracked on this but. What does it
mean to enter into holiest?
(A man in the audience) ...........where he met with his people.
(Wilfred) Where He met with His people. And what happens in that
(A man in the audience) That’s where the cleansing took place.
(Wilfred) That’s where the cleansing took place. Did you get that? Now
he says, “We can therefore enter boldly to the holiest by what?”
(A man in the audience) By the blood of Jesus.
(Wilfred) Do you see the connection? The blood of Jesus is the
cleansing stream whereby we are washed.
(John) This is what cleanses the sanctuary.
(Wilfred) And what is it?
(John) The Holy Spirit.
(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit, the very life of Christ the creative power.
And she tells us that it is the same creative power that was used at
the creation of this world, which has to recreate the image of God in
the soul. So we enter by the blood of Jesus. 20 “By a new and
living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is
to say, his flesh;” And that is another one. He talks about the
flesh and the blood, remember? The way to get into the Holiest is
through the veil. And what is the veil? The veil is His flesh. That’s
what it says doesn’t it? Do you understand that?
(John) We enter that heritage that He laid down before
He came to this world.
(A woman in the audience) It could also mean the Word which is the
(Wilfred) Shall I explain something here; I don’t think I have done it
before. Before Christ laid down his life in the Heavenly sanctuary
court prior to coming to this world He delivered to his Old Testament
prophets the Word of truth. It’s buried in there. The Old Testament
contains the content of truth that was in the body of Christ. His brain
contained a record of everything that ever happened, nothing escaped
Him; all truth was recorded in that body it was ingrained into the
computer mechanism of that body, into those cells, whatever they were
made of and it was permanent He had an eternal memory. Do you go along
with that? So, He was the record of all truth, wasn’t He? Then He could
say, I am the truth, couldn’t He, in more senses than one. Now, that
body was going to be disintegrated, physically. He was no longer going
to live in it, right? He’s not in it now, is He?
(John) He came to live in a human body forever she
(Wilfred) Right. And what is going to replace that body, as the
totality of Christ? The bodies of his saints. He is the head they are
the members in particular. I just read you part of that.
(Larry) But He retains his human form forever.
(Wilfred) He retains his human form, but in the mystical body, He is
(Larry) Right, in the mystical body.
(Wilfred) In the mystical body. That’s what I am talking about, see.
Now, what I want to point out is that the truth recorded in that body
and the powers of that body, the omnipresence, omnipotence and so on,
the different powers of that body are to be divided and given to his
people. And the Word of God that He delivered through the Spirit to the
Old Testament prophets contains the ingredients which if they were put
into our physical brains, that same spirit that gave life to that body
back there can come in to our brains and give life to that truth. I can
read you statements to verify that. If you don’t have that truth in
there to start with the Spirit will have nothing to work on. It’s the
Spirit that makes the Word of God alive. Not in the Book, in the brain.
Don’t you see that? You can read the Book and get the ingredients into
the brain but you may not understand what you are reading, not until
the Spirit comes to give life to that Word. Do you see it? So there is
an allegorical pattern of the body of Christ and the fact that it is
his Word. Now I said the Old Testament because up to that point
that was as far as Christ was able to do it. Because from there on in
laid down His life. The last words He ever gave to his prophets are in
the last verses of Malachi.
The next thing that happens is the Holy Ghost begins to function, and
there is the miraculous birth and there is a human brain and there is a
Spirit that comes. But that human brain was versed in the scriptures
and the Spirit came and into that brain came back the knowledge of
truth that He recorded in the first place or that was recorded in that
body in the first place. And He spoke those words of life and his
disciples picked them up and the people picked them up and the same
Spirit came to the minds of those disciples and they wrote. And then
Paul came along, and he wrote, and we have the New Testament.
(John) And the Word became flesh.
(Wilfred) And dwelt among us. So now we have the two Testaments, the
two Covenants, and we have the self same Spirit that gave them both to
reproduce them in our minds. And no mind is going to have the whole
totality of that reproduced in it. The human brain does not have the
capacity at the present time to contain that.
(Linda) That’s why we see it from a different angle.
(Wilfred) One reason.
(John) It takes a hundred and forty four thousand to
contain that totality.
(Wilfred) Right. When you take the collective ingredients of the
hundred and forty four thousand brains connected with the brain of
Christ you have the restoration of the body of Christ. He said, destroy
this temple and in three days I will raise it up. And that has more
than one meaning. Because one day with the Lord is as a thousand years
just as the history of this world, it parallels the creation week. Six
thousand years and incidentally I have a host of statements at home
from the White Estate now on the six thousand years that Sister has
pointed out, and I’ll bring them to you when we get through with this
(Linda) Well isn’t Christ on the ....... unintelligible
(Wilfred) Each day is for a thousand years and in three days he said
He would raise it up now as his physical body went in to the tomb and
on third day it was raised. So you have the laying down of the body of
Christ and on the third day it will be raised, and that is now. The
third thousand years, it is in the midst of the week that Messiah was
cut off. That gives us the key as to when Jesus or Christ laid down his
life in the Heavenly sanctuary. And for several hundred years there are
no prophecies until Jesus showed up in Bethlehem.
Well, it all fits, the parallel is there. And it doesn’t matter whether
you believe it or not. It’s just there, that’s all. Now, you had a
question and you had a question.
(Linda) If Christ gave up those powers which would be
the omnipresence and omniscience and the rest of that and those powers
will go to the saints, then his doesn’t have the powers He had before.
(Wilfred) That’s right.
(John) Didn’t He say that He wouldn’t drink of this
(Wilfred) At Gethsemane He made the final decision, there was no
turning back from here on in; He was going through with the plan.
(Linda) You're saying then that when we get to Heaven
we will be equal with Christ being the body.
(Wilfred) No. I wouldn't say equal, We are the body He is the head. In
Him dwellest all the
fullness of the Godhead bodily. But we will have a portion of that
blood that He had in his original body, that eternal life Spirit.
That’s the only way we can get eternal life we will have a portion of
that. That’s what He did; He gave each of them a part, didn’t He? When
He broke the body He gave each of them a part. They didn’t each take
the whole thing. But He is the head; He has been reinstated with the
unanimous approval of everyone. And not until He is married to the
body, which takes place before the close of probation, is the unit
restored and completed. But then there will be the mystical union
between Christ and his saints, it will be restored just as same as your
brain has a connection with your toe. And if you want to wiggle that
toe, you make a decision and the toe wiggles. So, this is important
now, I hope you get this now, and don’t get it twisted. So, when the
head makes a decision that He would like to have something done, He is
not going to dictate to the toe, that’s the one difference. It’s not a
dictation, it’s a council. He becomes the councilor, that’s what the
Bible says. No force. But if He wants the toe to wiggle in this big
mystical body, and of course that could mean anything, not just the
wiggling of the toe in the physical sense. You understand what I’m
getting at. But He wants whoever is the toe in that body, He wants him
to do some particular thing for Him. He has that inter connection by
the Spirit, the still small voice of the Spirit that will connect with
the mind of that toe and it will be a request in the mind of that
person that will not come as a request, it will come as an instinctive
desire, that I would like to do this. And he will follow the dictates
of his own will and in doing it he’s fulfilling the will of Christ.
Now, that’s not my words, those are the words of our prophet. She
didn’t talk about the toe; it’s that second part I’m talking about. His
ruler-ship will be an internal thing, the Kingdom of God is within you
and in following your own dictates then your mind will be so united with
the mind of Christ that in following your own will you are following
will of Christ.
(John) May I read it brother?
(Wilfred) Ok, read it that’s good.
(John) And if we consent, He will so identify Himself
with our thoughts and our aims, so blend our hearts and minds into
conformity to His will, that when obeying Him we shall be but carrying
out our own impulses. Desire
of Ages page 668.3.
(Wilfred) Can you think of any better form of government than that?
Today we want to do the things that are not in harmony with God’s will
and we have to discipline ourselves to do his will constantly. I’m I
right? Why is that? Because our hearts are not in tune with his. We
have not yet got into the union with the head. He has not yet cleansed
the sanctuary, the temple, his body, from sin. But that’s the work of
the heavenly sanctuary. And while that’s going on there is a parallel
work going on here on earth. There is to be a cleansing of the soul
temple here, and it will be done by the agency of the Holy Spirit. He
is going to condemn sin in the flesh not only as He did it back there,
it says He condemned sin in the flesh, didn’t it? He’s going to come
and condemn sin in the flesh of every member of his body. By his
blood He is going to cleanse the soul temple from sin. So, our temple
will be a pure and holy temple for the indwelling of the Spirit and an
habitation for God through the eternal Spirit, it says. And that Spirit
will be the connecting link between us and the Head. Like the nerves of
the body, and it will also be like the blood stream, bringing the life,
the nutrients for the spiritual body. Got the picture? Well, it’s not
my picture; it’s the picture that’s in here. If you want to read it,
just read your Bible, it’s all in there and you will see it.
(Larry) Was the Holy Spirit functional before Christ’s
(Larry) And if it was his eternal Spirit He
could divorce himself of that Spirit gradually at birth but He couldn’t
do it while He was still here?
(Wilfred) Oh yes.
(Larry) Because He said, unless I go away the Spirit
(Wilfred) To you.
(Larry) But it was in Him?
(Wilfred) But only that which God gave Him, only that which God will
also give us. But prior to his coming here, that was his life in
Himself that God had given Him, it was his possession. It would never
be taken away from Him. It was His own.
(John) And He voluntarily laid........
(Wilfred) He voluntarily laid it down. Yes. She makes that very plain.
And when Christ was at creation there, you never hear about the Spirit
as a separate Godhead, do you? Can you find any place in the Old
Testament where you have a separate spirit? It is the Spirit of Christ,
the Spirit of God, which is the Spirit of Christ. And through that
Spirit Christ performed all these functions. When He laid down that
Spirit he went to sleep, because it was his Spirit of life. And when
you breathe into the nostrils the breath of life, man is made in his
image don’t forget, when you breathe into his nostrils the breath of
life he becomes a living soul. But the Spirit that was in the body of
Christ, as Sister White says, his Spirit is in his Word, which is the
symbol of the body of Christ. The Spirit that was in the body of Christ
was the eternal Spirit of God, the life in Himself, the self-generating
life, and He relinquished that. But He was given a measure of that
during his earthly ministry. He could have by his own decision tapped
into the whole thing.
(John) And deserted the human race.
(Wilfred) And deserted the human race. And gone back, He could have
done that. But He emptied Himself. That’s the very words she uses. He
emptied Himself. And He accepted what God gave Him. Of himself He could
do nothing. For our sakes He did that so that we would have an example
to see that it could be done. And as we have faith in that plan God can
fulfill it in our lives. And if you don’t believe it you can't and I am
to say that there are people in our Church today who don’t believe it.
They don’t believe that God can perfect them, until He changes their
bodies at the second coming.
(John) But the Bible and The
Spirit of Prophesy are
plain that we must have our characters perfected prior to the close of
probation because then we have to live in the sight of a holy God
without an intercessor.
(Wilfred) That’s right. Now we understand of course that the body will
not be changed until the second coming. We understand that. So, if you
mean by perfection, the total perfection of the body then that is
correct. God could do it, but He isn’t going to do it. Why isn’t He
going to do it? Because He wants to demonstrate that the devil is
wrong. He wants to prove that in the most degenerate body of the human
cycle as we have it today, in that very body it is possible for a human
being through connection to the divine nature to live without sin. And
with all the temptations that the devil can throw at him, it can be
done. Ok Ted.
(Ted) She said, “The conditions of eternal life,
under grace, are just what they were in Eden--perfect righteousness,
harmony with God, perfect conformity to the principles of His law. ....
“This standard is not one to which we cannot attain.” Thoughts
from the Mount of Blessing page 76
(Wilfred) Right. That is right. There are quite a few statements saying
the same thing.
(A woman in the audience) Well, was he saying that the Holy Spirit
didn’t come to the disciples in its fullness? Was his Spirit with Him
and on the earth when He was living but not in its fullness?
(Wilfred) For some reason the Father could not bestow the fullness of
the Spirit on the Saints until Jesus had gone through with his
ratification of the Covenant. That’s right.
(Same woman) I think I understand that too. But then
what power was it that the disciples cast out the devils?
(Wilfred) That was the Holy Spirit.
(John) It wasn’t the full outpouring.
(Wilfred) It wasn’t the full outpouring, No.
(Linda) I was thinking that we had to have the Holy
Spirit in order to even understand what He was talking about.
(Wilfred) That’s true, they do. The Spirit comes by measure. But in the
latter rain it’s going to come without measure.
(John) Brother Johnson, it appears to me that the
ministry of holy angels have everything to do with the delivering of
Holy Spirit to us upon earth. Because we know that it was by the power
of the Holy Spirit that these miracles were wrought. Yet in another
place it says in the Desire
of Ages (DA 143.1}, All the miracles of Christ
were wrought by the agency of the angels. And if you will study in the
indexes under the ministry of angels, and then if you will study under
the Holy Spirit you’ll see that the work seems to be parallel in almost
(Wilfred) Thanks for bringing that in John, I had thought to bring it
in. But the thought had passed my mind that I shouldn’t because it may
complicate it. But I’m glad you brought it. That’s an indication that I
should have brought too. So, let me just point this out. The miracles
of Christ and the disciples were performed by the power of God through
the agency of the angels.
(A man in the audience) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) The power of God is through the Spirit; the Holy Spirit is
the agency that operates all the functions. Whatever He hears, He does
or says. He is the administrative agent. He is the part of the Godhead
that can reach......
(Larry) Is He an agent for the Father and the Son? Or,
is He just an agent for the Son? And wasn’t it through the power of the
Son which life within himself, because of this power He was able to
cast out and it was the imparting of this power to his disciples that
gave them in turn power. Or did this power while He was here on earth,
of course this is getting picky and maybe this is the spot we mustn’t
venture but it’s just curiosity and maybe we will not be satisfied, was
it power ordained from above or was it within Christ and then imparted to
his disciples? And if the Holy Spirit was taken away from Him which He
gave up of Himself, prior to his birth because as you have indicated,
there is no thought there in the embryo then, at birth life started to
function and as you indicated the Holy Spirit is given in part was that
impartation then given to Christ as a babe and developed because of his
receptiveness and might there just be this suggestion that this might
in part be the function of the angel to determine because they are the
ones who keep the records? As to the receptiveness of our hearts to the
impulses, the principles of Heaven and the more we be receptive the
more we are following the more we desire to follow then the more power
can be turned on.
(Wilfred) Ok. Now, you brought up several points there and I was trying
to keep them straight. We have covered that. I think you were absent.
But I’m going to just repeat it. It may not be on the tape because some
things we have discussed that didn’t get on the tapes. We ran out. So,
let me answer it. Unless everybody is satisfied? Ok. We can only say,
or a least I can only say with a clear conscience what I find in here.
And beyond that I’ll tell you this is my idea. But I’m telling you
what’s in here now. If the miracles of Christ were
preformed by the power of God through the agency of the angels it is
very obvious to me that Christ made the decision, God responded through
the agency of the Holy Spirit through the angels.
Now, we think
about the woman who touched the hem of his garment and He
felt virtue go out of Him. All right? Now there is a case where the
power came through the angel to Jesus to the patient. And I have
documentation for that in my files from the physical world on how the
devil does it, and the devil is an angel. He can impart power to a
human being and that human being can impart that power to someone else
and heal them. And you can feel it and you can measure it with
Now your third point. Well, before I leave that one. He emptied himself
and depended on the power given Him from God. And the angels are sent
forth as ministers to minister to those who shall be heirs of
He placed Himself in the same position as we are in. That there was no
power that He used that we cannot have. And He says, Greater things
than these shall ye do. Remember that? Now, it won’t be us that does
them it will be the power of God through the agency of the angels that
does them. Now, beyond that maybe we should discuss it afterwards or
privately so I don’t get completely off my track here tonight. I didn’t
intend to take all this time on these. But that’s all right. I mean
it’s good. I think that we are getting something. And you may want to
think about that brother. And I can point out the statements to you so
that you can mull them over. And in the final analysis I’m not so sure
that it does make an awful lot of difference, just what the details of
the technique are.
(Larry) The only way the Spirit can be transmitted to
the human is via the angel; they’re ministering Spirits that has to be
the way it has to come......
(Wilfred) I don’t think so. We were talking about the power that heals
at that point weren’t we?
(Larry) The Spirit lighted on Christ when He was
(Larry) That wasn’t an angel.
(Larry) It came down in the form of a dove,
(Larry) See? The Spirit therefore must be a.... I
don’t mean to be inquisitive, curious, or anything, I’m just trying to
think this thing through. If it can be transmitted in the form of a
dove, was it transmitted by an angel or can it be sent directly from
the Father? If he so elects, of course I don’t know if this is a very
important point but it’s something I can’t put my finger on.
(Wilfred) Ok. Now. I don’t know whether the dove was associated with an
angel or was it associated directly with the manifestation of the
outpouring of the Spirit by the Father. I don’t know that.
(Larry) Doesn’t it say that the Heavens opened and the
(Wilfred) And the voice of the Father was heard. And there again, maybe
it was spoken through someone else. We really don’t know. At least I
don’t know. But the fact is that Jesus did not accept any power for
Himself that cannot come to us the same way. We can say that much.
(Larry) Right, If we conform to this point, see this
is again, if we conform totally as Christ conformed then there is no
reason why the power switch can’t be turned all the way, like a
thermostat, like these rheostats, like these lights here, we can throw
them on full, there is where I kind of see the function of the angel, He
can determine by our daily acts and motives and they can read our minds
and Satan can not. And if it is in our hearts to do right then they
can turn up the thermostat. This is the way I think about it.
(Wilfred) Well I don’t think there is any harm in thinking of it that
way. I don’t really know the mechanics of it completely. But, I have
read a lot of reports on things that are going on that the devil is
doing. And I certainly got a lot of ideas on how this thing functions
and he is an angel and he is functioning as an angel. And if he can do
it, the good angels can do the same type of thing. And when I read
statements in The Spirit of
Prophesy and in the Bible the thing just
clicks as far as I’m concerned. I can see how it can be done.
(Larry) I was just wondering whether it could be
short-circuiting and directly sent from the Father if He so elects.
(Wilfred) I would say yes. Very definitely, But you made a statement at
the end there that I think is significant , “If He so elects”. Now what
does the Father do? He did nothing accept through his Son, right?
(Larry) But you see, He poured out His Spirit in the
form of a dove to his Son....
(Wilfred) Now, I’m going a little beyond that now. I’m going right to
(Larry) All right.
(Wilfred) How does the Father function?
(John) Through the Son.
(Wilfred) Everything was done through the Son. Nothing was created
accept through the Son. That’s his normal way of functioning. Now, when
the Son gave up his life, when He gave that up and it was to be
delivered to us. It would seem to me that from here on in He’s going to
do it through his created beings. At least they are going to share in
it. Now, when Christ was on earth He was the first example of this new
body, He was the head, the first born of ever creature, the first
begotten from the dead. He was the first one that became union of
divinity and humanity.
(Larry) The only one at that point.
(Wilfred) At that point, Yes. The only one. Now it’s my own personal
opinion, and I’m giving my opinion, I’m very suspicious that everything
that God did was through the angels. These are the ministering spirits
though whom He functions to work out the plan of salvation in his
people. I’m suspicious of that.
What about revelation of truth? Does the Spirit first reveal it to your
guardian angel and he relays it? For instance, when Gabriel came to
Daniel, who was it that delivered the truth to him? It was the angel.
And John the Revelator, and Sister White, but now, suppose they don’t
come in an actual person. You don’t see them but you get the
inspiration of the Spirit. Would you say that that direct from the
spirit? Or would you say there might be an angel involved? I cannot
point my finger to any direct proof at the moment. I don’t have a
conclusion on it and I haven’t really worried about it.
(Ted) It comes through the Spirit, but just ....
(Wilfred) Whether it comes directly or through, that’s the point. But I
don’t know whether it matters that much, at least it hasn’t become an
issue with me yet.
(John) It says, “The revelation of Jesus Christ which
God gave unto Him to show unto his servants things which must shortly
come to pass and He sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant
John.” So here it seems that God gave it to his Son in Heaven who
signified it to the angel who took it to John. There’s the four, the
Father, the Son, the angel, the human agent. And John was a prophet who
showed it to us. And that self same Spirit then comes to us to help us
(Wilfred) Right. But does He come directly or through an angel?
(John) I think through an angel.
(Linda) What about the angels descending on the latter?
(Wilfred) Oh, good for you. You know she says that in the closing up of
this work there is going to be constant communication between Heaven
and earth through the angels. She also says that the angel carry your
prayer to Jesus, your prayer does not go to Him directly, it goes
through the angel.
(John) That picture is in Revelation
where the angel
with the censer.
(Wilfred) That’s right.
(Linda) In Sister White's writings it says that Jesus wouldn't even, is
it Jesus or God that wouldn't even understand the interpretation of our
prayers if it wasn't for the angels?
(John) It does say, that even our most earnest prayers
coming through the corrupt channel of humanity could not ascend before
the Father if not purified by the blood of Christ.
(Wilfred) Which is again?
(John) The Holy Spirit.
(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit.
Ted, you had a question?
(Ted) Yes, in another place she says; The Father's
presence encircled Christ, and nothing befell him but that which
infinite love permitted for the blessing of the world. Here was his
source of comfort, and it is for us. Which would seem
of the Times May 20, 1908)
(Wilfred) But there again, the Father's direct presence is though the
agency of the Hoy Spirit.
Ok! Let’s move on. Here’s one in Revelation 12:11 I think it
I better read it. I don’t have a quote on it and I don’t want to make a
mistake. 11 “And they overcame him” That is the serpent, the
devil. “By the blood of the Lamb,” Do you understand
that now? “And by the word of their testimony; and they
loved not their lives unto the death.” Well, I just wanted to show
the application there. Here you can read this text now. They over came
him by the blood of the lamb. I never understood that text.
(The end of C/D #23 and the beginning of C/D #24)
(Wilfred) I couldn't figure out what that meant. How do you overcome by the blood
of the lamb?
Tell me. I have never heard anybody explain it in any manner
that made sense to me.
(John) It says his life is the Holy Spirit.
Wilfred) Well, that explains it. That makes sense to me.
(Linda) What does “by the word of their testimony”
(Wilfred) What do you think it means?
(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) The word of their testimony would be the revelation that they
gained through the influence of the Spirit of the Word. So the word
of their testimony is going to be just like I was illustrating
here that when they read the word they have the understanding. That is,
they can explain that they overcame by the blood of the lamb, which
means they overcame by the power of the Spirit. Now, I think there is
another slant to, “the word of their testimony. Do you remember what
Brother Vendon dug out of Steps
to Christ? What were the steps?
(A man in the audience) Study, pray, and witnessing.
(Wilfred) Study, pray, and witnessing. Now, there is something about
sharing, witnessing, that cuts the grooves a little deeper here, and
gives you a more positive ability to implement your decision. There may
be that slant to it too. Yes?
(John) Well, there’s a great deal in The Spirit of
Prophesy about testimony meanings and us telling what God has
us. Here’s one statement in Desire
of Ages 340. It say, “If we have
been following Jesus step by step, we shall have something right to the
point to tell concerning the way in which He has led us. We can tell
how we have tested his promise, and found the promise true. We can bear
witness to what we have known of the grace of Christ. This is the
witness for which our Lord calls, and for want of which the world is
perishing.” She says the whole world is perishing because this
word of the testimony of Christians is lacking. And Brother, could I
just bring a text on this very point you were just bringing up about
the blood of the Lamb?
(John) It’s in Revelation
1:5, and it talks about
Jesus. It says; “And from Jesus Christ,
who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and
the prince of the kings of the earth.” And this is what I wanted
us to notice. “Unto him that loved us, and washed us from
our sins in his own blood,”
(Wilfred) Yes, Washed in the blood of the Lamb.
(John) So, it's the Holy Spirit that cleanses us from
(Wilfred) That’s right. It has to be, because it says that it is the
Spirit that does the transforming. Now, I could read you other
statements, we went over this in the last series last year. But it is
the two things, the Word and the Spirit, remember that? It is by the
Word that we are transformed and it is by the Spirit we are
transformed. But the two are together, because the Word without the
Spirit is dead. So, eventually the life giving power that does the job
is the Spirit, but it does it though the Word, we are sanctified by the
truth, thy Word is truth. Remember that? So, we mustn’t get too narrow,
we must leave our minds open to take the whole thing in.
(John) That’s where the study part comes in.
(Wilfred) That’s where the study part comes in. Yes. Well, I’ll be
through with these in just a minute here.
“The Church on earth composed of those who are faithful and loyal to
God is the true tabernacle wherein the Redeemer is the minister.” John
read that to us I think a week or two ago. “God and not man
pitched this tabernacle on a high elevated platform. This tabernacle is
Christ’s body.” Does that identify it? “And from north,
south, east, and west He gathers those who shall help to compose it. A
holy tabernacle is built up of those who receive Christ as their
personal Savior. Christ is the minister of the true tabernacle, the
High Priest of all who believe in Him as a personal Savior.” That was
printed in The Signs of the
Times Feb. 24th 1900. And reprinted in
volume 7 of the Bible
Commentary, page 931. Then if we
tabernacle, the true temple that is to be cleansed of sin. Don’t you
see where the parallel work comes in? What’s He doing now? He cleansing
the sanctuary from sin, He’s in the holy of holies.
(John) The holiest of all.
(Wilfred) The holiest of all. All right, and He’s administering what?
The blood. What does it mean to administer the blood?
(John) To send the Holy Spirit.
(Wilfred) To send the Holy Spirit. What for? To give the power to
implement the decision to cease from sin and to cause the creative
in the patterns that are in there that need to get out so you will now
love to do the law of God instead of pushing yourself to do it.
(John) Something just came to my mind. I need to ask
you a question.
(John) Going back to the sanctuary services of the
Jewish tabernacle where they took blood and put it on the horns of the
alter and the blood of the lamb, these are all the symbol of the work
of the Holy Spirit then.
(Wilfred) That is right!
(John) And if we go back and study the Jewish
economy we will understand more of God’s work for us.
(Wilfred) Do you realize what she says? She says, that there are many
things in that old Jewish economy that are not yet understood, but the
gospel is the key that unlocks the mystery. And what is the gospel? The
gospel is “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” And what is “Christ in
you, the hope of glory?”
(John) The Holy Spirit.
(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit. What is the gospel? The gospel is, He will
forgive us our sins and give us power to live without sin. How does
that come? By the Holy Spirit. Do you see the key? The sacrifice of
Christ. She also says that we will understand the incarnation of Christ
and his sacrifice and his mediatorial work far better than we do. I
could read you that. We haven’t understood that. Do you see? But now
the work is to be completed. And the Bible says that God will do
nothing except He does what?
(Several voices in the audience) But he revealeth his secret unto his
servants the prophets.
(Wilfred) Ok. So we are gaining a little more insight into it. Right?
So, do you see that Joel
chapter two is being fulfilled, right here? Do
you see that? We’ve preached it, we’ve said it’s going to happen, it’s
got to happen, and it’s happening in other places.
(Linda) Who is administering the Holy Spirit, God or
(Linda) I always thought the God was the
administrator of the will.
(Wilfred) That’s right. Jesus is the intercessor. It’s in the hands of
(Linda) Then how could Jesus be the intercessor?
(Wilfred) Well, why not?
(John) It says that the Father gave all the treasures
of Heaven into the hands of Christ.
(Larry) That’s when He went in, He wouldn’t accept the
worship of Mary, He said, detain me not because I have not yet ascended
to the Father. And when He got up there with all the angels of God and He
waved them back until He went in. And it says He was guided by a light
and His desire was, not only for Himself but would the Father accept the
sacrifice in behalf of everybody and there is the complete
ratification. And at that time the Father gave it all into his hands.
(Wilfred) Right. Well, He does it by intersession, He prays the Father.
That’s what He said. I will pray the Father and He will give you
another Comforter, even the Holy Ghost. See? The Father is hesitant to
administer the Holy Ghost until the Son is willing to accept the
consequences, because He is responsible, He has pledged Himself to be
my surety forever. And it’s for Him to decide when the Holy Spirit is
to be given to me. When He sees that I am ready. I have fulfilled the
conditions and He is willing to take a chance on me at that point, He
says, Father, send it to Wilf Johnson. In that sense He is
administering it. Isn’t He?
You want me to repeat that?
(Larry) No, I think I got it.
(Wilfred) It’s on the tape.
And here it says in Hebrews
10:14 “For by one offering He hath
perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” And I won’t comment on
that. But it is a tremendous statement. Then in the next verse it says,
that the Holy Ghost is a witness to us regarding the New Covenant. I
don’t think that is exactly the quote but it's in there.
And here is another one, Patriarchs
page 372. “The same
law that was engraved upon the tables of stone is written by the Holy
Spirit upon the tables of the heart.” What law was written on the
tables of stone? The ten commandment law. What law is written in the
tables of the heart? The law of self-denying love. She says that it’s
the same law. The ten commandments would not have to be given if they
had remained in contact with the Lord as they were supposed to do, she
says. The real law is the law of self-renouncing love. The ten
commandments are how it is spelled out to people who have fallen quite
a ways down the road and they need some guidance. But you see, the ten
commandment law under conditions of sinfulness in a sinful environment
sometimes have to be broken, and I say that advisedly. You do not keep
the ten commandment law 100%. The thing that determines whether you are
keeping the spiritual law or not is the motivation. If you are doing
something of faith knowing it is the right thing to do according to the
law of love. You are keeping the law, even though you may be
transgressing a literal commandment. Want me to prove that? I’ve done
it before. The devil is right when he says the Lord did not keep his
own commandments. His commandments says thou shall not kill, and He
told the people to go on in there and kill. His people, go on in there
and kill. So, He did not keep His own commandment. Do you see my point?
But He kept his own law.
The ten commandment law was a temporary expedient under those
circumstances. Do you know where those ten commandments are going to be
in heaven? They are going to be in the ark and they are going to be
closed, face-to-face, and the lid is going to be shut. What does that
(John) The mercy seat.
(Wilfred) In the heart, in the heart. You won’t kill; you won’t have to
kill. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; there
won’t be any sin there. But you can’t help killing in this world. You
can’t even walk down the sidewalk without stepping on a spider or an
ant, can you? But I must add this, all things are lawful to me says
Paul, but all things are not expedient. Whatsoever is not of faith is
sin. Be very careful that you don’t use liberty to indulge in license.
See? If you don’t have a clear conscience, beware. Paul said, in all
things he strives to have a clear conscience before God and before man.
Have I got the thought across?
Listen, I don’t want to lose your attention here, I want to get these
things across to you. This may be my last chance to do this particular
part of it. Again in Hebrews
7:25 it says that Jesus ever lives to
make intercession for us. He ever lives to make intercession for us. I
repeat, He ever lives to make intercession for us. Now what is this
about his intercessory work closing at the close of probation?
(A man in the audience) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Good for you. That’s right, He lays down his robes.......
(John) Because his people are sealed in their
(Wilfred) His people are sealed and He doesn’t need to do it. He’s now
going to let them prove that He doesn’t need to do it. And if
He didn’t put the robes down He could be accused of still standing
between. Right? So, He sets them down. But He is always going to be our
high priest, forever. We never need fear that if we should ever fall
into sin we’re going to get the ax. That has been changed. Jesus died
once for the sins of the world, and has committed Himself for eternity
under the terms of the everlasting covenant, to forever stand good for
those He accepts. You will never be cast out of the family of God from
here on in. If there is anybody who is going to suffer for renewed
transgression it’s going to be Jesus. And there will be the deterring
factor, the deterring factor; which will guarantee that sin will never
again arise is your adoration for your savior, the love of Jesus. The
love of Christ in your heart will constrain you throughout eternity
never to sin again. If ever you are tempted, you will never do it, you
can’t do it, because you know the character of Christ, and you know
what it does to Him. See that there is no compulsion now, do you see
that? And do you see the position He placed Himself in? Think of what
He had to decide there in Gethsemane. Can you see that? That’s what He
decided right there, that He would forever accept the sins of his
people. And if the Father refused to honor the terms of the Everlasting
Covenant and give you the Holy Spirit you could never get out of sin.
And He had to trust his Father that He would do it. He faced eternal
death on that cross, do you get that now? So far as he was concerned,
if it hadn’t been for his faith in his father He was a goner, eternal
suffering that was his lot. That is what the devil threatens people
with today, eternal suffering, that’s the kind of God you've got, he says.
You better come in or else. You're going to hell fire forever and you are
going to sizzle. The devil knows what he is talking about but he
misplaces it. He knows what kind of a God we’ve got, and we know it.
Why don’t we respond? What’s the matter with us?
(Linda) I don’t quite understand, I can see his
physical suffering on the cross but I don’t understand, we talk about
Him being crucified afresh and suffering now for things that we do
wrong, just how is He suffering?
(Wilfred) Would you believe it if we read it to you?
(Linda) Oh, I believe He is, I just want to know
how He is suffering.
(Wilfred) Again you are asking for details.
(Several voices speaking at once) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) All right, Linda, I’ll repeat it, I’ve said it more than once
in the past but I realize that I’m saying thousands of different things
and we can’t expect 100% to stick. I’ve taught long enough to know
that. So, I’ll repeat again. Within a short time. I was going to get to
that tonight but I’m not now, because I haven’t got the time.
The Sword of the
Lord is going to come out and come upon his people and
they are going to enter a period of sharing the suffering of Christ in
a way that they have never shared it before. So that they are going to
get a personal experience of what He went through. They will know first
hand the kind of suffering and until you get that kind of experience there
is no way I can describe it. But the cross, she says, is a revelation
to our dull senses, and mine are dull too, notice I said too. I’m sorry
Linda. To our dull senses of the pain that entered the heart of God at
the inception of sin. In other words, what was the cross for? Was that
the be all and end all of Christ’s suffering? Oh, it represented
more than that. It was a terrible thing to face, it was, It was a
terrible thing to face. But it represents something that has been
taking place since sin began. And she goes on to say, and it doesn’t
end there, it continues on, until we quit sinning. You see, He has
bound Himself to his people. He doesn’t suffer directly for the sins of
the world anymore, He suffered once for the sins of the world on the
cross, but He suffers directly for the sins of all those who accept Him
as their personal savior. He then takes them into his family, they
become his child and everything they do wrong hits Him. Just like it
does a parent, and you understand that. And until we get rid of that
He’s going to continue to suffer and you are going to find out exactly
what kind of suffering that is when this great and dreadful day of the
Lord bursts upon you. Which it is going to do very soon. That’s the
reason I’m here, to tell you that it’s coming, all the signs are there.
To show you the message of preparation which I have been doing my best
to give you. And after that that’s all I can do. It’s up to you. And
when it comes you will either swim or sink, and that’s up to you. If
you make the necessary preparation, as we have been warned, and warned,
and warn to do, you will survive. If you don’t you will go down with
Isaiah 57:1 and 2, I
think it is or you will be completely lost,
depending on whether you give up the Lord or not. And that again is
Well, John has a statement here in Education page 263, and I
it again, I’ll read the last part. “Every departure from the right,
every deed of cruelty, every failure of humanity to reach his ideal,
brings grief to Him.” That’s one form of suffering and grief.
Now, I think that’s all I’m going to do on these and that sure took a
lot longer than I expected. But that’s all right. What we don’t get
done tonight we will get done next time.
Now there are two avenues I could move into or you may want to just
leave them all to next week and use the rest of the time for
discussion. What have we left here, about thirty-five minutes for the
two hour session. Would you want to just discuss or would you want me
to go in and give you the conditions for receiving the Spirit? I don’t
think I’ll tackle The Sword of the Lord tonight it will be a little too
long. I’ll do whatever you want.
(Larry) Brother Johnson maybe we could explore that a
little more, maybe we can get it even a little clearer, I think this is
a point that maybe we could spend a little time....
(Wilfred) The sufferings of Christ?
(Larry) Yes, and how we wound Him again by our daily
(Wilfred) I don’t think I can explain it any further than I have
already done. Until I go through The Sword of the Lord. This stuff all
ties in you know, like the rungs of a spider web. After I have gone
through that then I think I could explain it a little better.
(A woman in the audience) What we have to do is get the word into our
mind and then the Lord will work with us to understand these things
(Wilfred) Yes. When the Holy Spirit begins to start flowing out and
gushing out, you will be seeing things you haven't seen before and the
things will take on a new meaning for you and you will become settled
into the truth so that nothing can move you. But you won’t get the
Spirit unless you fulfill the conditions. Do you want those? I thought
Well, I’m starting with Gospel
Workers page 284. There is a whole
chapter here, if you have the book I recommend that you read the whole
I will just take
some extracts from it. Near the bottom of the page she
says this, “Christ promised the gift of
the Holy Spirit to his church
and the promise belongs as much to us as to the first
like every other promise, it is given on conditions. There are many who
profess to believe and claim the Lord's promises; they talk about
Christ and the Holy Spirit; yet they receive no benefit,” Listen. “because they do not surrender their souls to the guidance and
control of divine agencies.” So, What’s the first condition?
(Wilfred) Surrender their souls to what?
(Wilfred) The guidance and control of divine agencies.
We cannot use the Holy Spirit; the Spirit is to use us. Through the
Spirit, God works in his people "to will and to do of His good
pleasure." But many will not submit to be led. They want to manage
themselves. This is why they do not receive the heavenly gift. Only to
those who wait humbly upon God, who watch for His guidance and grace,
is the Spirit given.” All right, let’s get that one now. Only to
those who wait humbly upon God. You don’t command God, you wait humbly
for His timing, “Who watch for His guidance”, you keep an eye out.
Watch for His guidance and grace. Grace means forgiveness, favor. Only
for those who watch for this is the Spirit given. “This promised
blessing, claimed by faith.” All right, you have to claim it. And
by faith you have to believe He will fulfill it. Claimed by faith,
“Brings all other blessings in its train.” When the Spirit comes” What
do you get? All the other blessings. That’s right. ”It
is given according to the riches of the grace of Christ, and He is
ready to supply every soul according to the capacity to receive.” So
who sets the limits?
(Several voices speaking at once) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) The soul does. She goes on to say, “The impartation of the
Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.”
(Wilfred) This is Gospel
Workers page 284 and 285. “Those only who are
thus taught of God, those only who possess the inward working of the
Spirit, and in whose life the Christ life is manifested, can stand as
true representatives of the Saviour.” And what is it that we have
to do in this final generation? We have to stand as true
representatives of the Savior. But we can’t do it unless we fulfill
this. “Those only who are thus taught of God, those only who
possess the inward working of the Spirit and in who’s life the Christ’s
life is manifested can stand as true representatives of the Savior.”
286 “Christ promised that the Holy Spirit should abide with those” Ok, get this now. “who wrestle for victory over sin.” What do
(Wilfred) Do you know what wrestling means? It’s setting right back and
taking it easy and saying, “Ok, Lord you do it.” Is that right? Well,
I’ve heard that expressed and there is a certain amount of truth to it.
But we mustn’t get one sided, we’ve got to take both sides of the
question. There is a wrestling for victory over sin involved. And,
unless we do that, we don’t get the Holy Spirit. Did you get that
point? Now I’ve told you this before, and here I’m reading to you the
verification of it. And why? “To demonstrate the power of divine
might by endowing the human agent with supernatural strength” So
what happens when the Spirit comes on top of the wrestling? You are
endowed with supernatural strength. “And instructing the ignorant
in the mysteries of the kingdom of God.” What else does he do? He
instructs the ignorant in the mysteries of the Kingdom of God. “Of
what avail would it be to us that the only begotten Son of God humbled
Himself, endured the temptations of the wily foe, and died, the just
for the unjust, if the Spirit had not been given as a constant,
working, regenerating agent, to make effectual in each individual case
what has been wrought out by the world's Redeemer?” And she says
that in another place too. That it is the Spirit that comes to make
effectual what Christ has wrought out in his sacrifice. And there is
more than one thing He wrought out, you see.
I’m going to have to skip some
of this. “Today this Spirit is constantly at work, seeking to draw the
attention of men to the great sacrifice made upon the cross of Calvary,
to unfold to the world the love of God to man, and to open to the
convicted soul the promises of the Scriptures.” Well that’s the
Spirit’s job. “It is the Spirit that causes to shine into darkened
minds the bright beams of the Sun of Righteousness; that makes men's
hearts burn within them with an awakened realization of the truths of
eternity;” Have you had that experience? Where Sun of
Righteousness comes in with his bright beams and makes your heart burn
with an awakened realization of the truths of eternity. “That
presents before the mind the great standard of righteousness, and
convinces of sin; that inspires faith in Him who alone can save from
sin; that works to transform character by withdrawing the affections of
men from those things which are temporal and perishable, and fixing
them upon the eternal inheritance.” What is the job of the Spirit
there? To transform a character, to withdraw our affections, that is
our likes, our loves, from those things which are temporal and
perishable, In other words, the things of the world. and fixing them
upon the eternal inheritance. Now if we haven’t had that experience
it’s because we haven’t received the outpouring of the Spirit in
sufficient measure. “The Spirit recreates, refines, and sanctifies
human beings, fitting them to become members of the royal family,
children of the heavenly King.” Now, we become members of the
royal family and children of the heavenly king even before we are
fitted but the Spirit comes to make us fit.
She says in another place, that the imputed righteousness gives us our
title to Heaven and the imparted righteousness, which is what we have
been talking about, gives us our fitness for heaven. And here it ties
in again. “When one is fully emptied of self, when every false god
is cast out of the soul, the vacuum is filled by the inflowing of the
Spirit of Christ.” Ok, there is another condition. We have to
empty ourselves, get rid of every false god out of the Soul. Then the
vacuum can be filled by the inflowing of the Spirit of Christ. “Such a
one has the faith that purifies the soul from defilement. He is
conformed to the Spirit, and he minds the things of the Spirit. He has
no confidence in self. Christ is all and in all. He receives with
meekness the truth that is constantly being unfolded, and gives the
Lord all the glory, saying, "God hath revealed them unto us by His
Spirit." Do you see the attitude? “The Spirit that reveals
also works in him the fruits of righteousness. Christ is in him,” There
again we have the identification of Christ with the Spirit. Don’t
we? He says, the Spirit that reveals also works in him the fruits of
righteousness. Then the very next sentence says, Christ is in him. "A
well of water springing up into everlasting life." So again she
identifies the Spirit and Christ. “He is a branch of
the True Vine,” Talking about the person. “And bears rich
clusters of fruit to the glory of God. What is the character of the
fruit borne? - The fruit of the Spirit is "love," not hatred; "joy,"
not discontent and mourning; "peace," not irritation, anxiety, and
manufactured trials. You know we have an ability to
manufactured trials, and agility as a matter of fact. “It is "long
suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance. The love
of Christ is the force and power of every message for God that ever
fell from human lips. Day after day is passing into eternity, bringing
us nearer to the close of probation. As never before we must pray for
the Holy Spirit”
What’s the next condition? Pray. “To be more
abundantly bestowed upon us," That recognizes that it is already
bestowed, doesn’t it? But it is the more abundant outpouring we need.
“And we must look for its sanctifying influence” We must look
for this. "To come upon the workers, that those for whom they
labor may know that they have been with Jesus and have learned of Him.
Those who are under the influence of the Spirit of God will not be
fanatical,” Watch that. It happens so often that when someone gets
a new experience and gets to see new things he goes completely
overbroad and becomes fanatical. They will not be fanatical “but calm
and steadfast, free from extravagance in thought, word, or deed.”
That’s an important statement. “Amid the confusion of delusive
doctrines, the Spirit of God will be a guide and a shield to those who
have not resisted the evidences of truth,” But
know, those who resist the evidences of truth, even thought the
evidence is there they still resist it, then what does this imply? That
the Spirit will not be a guide and shield. To those who have not
resisted the evidences of truth He will be a guide and a shield.
“Silencing every other voice except that which comes from Him who is
the truth." In other words, the soul is protected against the
delusions that come from the devil, all the false voices and the false
spirits, He is protected from that by the Spirit.
“We are living in the last days, when error of a most deceptive
character is accepted and believed, while truth is discarded.” - “Well,
you know that don’t you? People believe anything now days. The Lord
will hold both ministers and people responsible for the light
shining upon them. He calls upon us to work diligently in gathering up
the jewels of truth,” How are these jewels of truth going to be
gathered? By working diligently. And what are we to do with them? She
goes on to say, “And placing them in the framework of the gospel.” Now
that’s what we have been doing I hope you’ve noticed. That the
things we talk about have all come to have a relationship to
salvation from sin. They all have zeroed in on that.
Christ’s Object Lessons page 133, I wanted to just take time out
that, with reference to the gospel there. “The significance of the
Jewish economy is not yet fully comprehended.” Isn’t that what we
talked about a few minutes ago? “Truths vast and profound are
shadowed forth in its rites and symbols." What kind of truths?
Vast and profound. “The gospel is the key that unlocks its
mysteries." In other words, the Jewish economy cannot be
unless it is understood in relation to the gospel, the plan of
salvation. “Through a knowledge of the plan of redemption, its
truths are opened to the understanding.” Now get this. ”Far more than we do, it is our privilege to understand these wonderful
themes. We are to comprehend the deep things of God. Angels desire to
look into the truths that are revealed to the people who with contrite
hearts are searching the word of God, and praying for greater lengths
and breadths and depths and heights of the knowledge which He alone can
give. She goes on to say, “As we near the close of this
world's history, the prophecies relating to the last days especially
demand our study.” And that is what we’ve been studying about,
hopefully. “The last book of the New Testament scriptures is full
of truth that we need to understand.” And we’ve studied about that
in our Sabbath school lesson not to long ago. “There is nothing
lost of that which comes from God. When we are endowed with the Spirit
and we take hold of faith by faith in infinite power nothing will be
lost. The Savior of the world sends His messages to the soul that
darkness of error may be dispelled. The work of the Spirit is
immeasurably great, it is from this source that power and efficiency
come to the worker for God.”
All right. I’ll be through here in just a few minutes I hope. Let me
now some statements directly from some of the other writings that are
very specific. Here’s one from Early Writings
page 71, “I
saw that many
were neglecting the preparation so needful and were looking to the time
of "refreshing" and the "latter rain" to fit them to stand in the day
of the Lord and to live in His sight.” Does that apply to you
right now? Is that what you're looking for? Looking for the latter rain
and the refreshing
to fit you to stand in the day of the Lord? Listen to what she says,
“Oh, how many I saw in the time of trouble without a shelter! They
had neglected the needful preparation; therefore they could not receive
the refreshing that all must have to fit them to live in the sight of a
holy God. I saw that none could share the "refreshing" unless
they obtain the victory over every besetment,” Is it sinking in? “I saw
that none could share the "refreshing" unless they obtain
the victory over every besetment, over pride, selfishness, love of the
world, and over every wrong word and action.” Wow, Are you looking
for the latter rain? Can you see why it hasn’t come? “We should,
therefore, be drawing nearer and nearer to the Lord and be earnestly
seeking that preparation necessary to enable us to stand in the battle
in the day of the Lord. Let all remember that God is holy and that none
but holy beings can ever dwell in His presence. Don’t get discouraged
yet, cheer up.
First Testimonies for the Church
page 619, “I was shown that if
people make no efforts on their part, but wait for the refreshing to
come upon them and remove their wrongs and correct their errors; if
they depend upon that to cleanse them from filthiness of the flesh and
spirit, and fit them to engage in the loud cry of the third angel, they
will be found wanting. The refreshing or power of God comes only on
those who have prepared themselves for it by doing the work which God
bids them, namely, cleansing themselves” Cleansing who?
Themselves. Who’s doing it? They are. “From all filthiness of the
flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” Perfecting
holiness in the fear of God. Only those people are going to
share in the refreshing, she says.
One more here from 5
Testimonies for the Church,
page 214, “Not one of
us will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot
or stain upon them.” I’d better say wow, again. “Not one of us
will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot or
stain upon them.” Well, you say ok, but the Spirit is going to
help us straighten out. Let me read on. “It is left with us
to remedy the defects in our characters,” To whom is it left? To
us to remedy the defects in our characters. “To cleanse the soul
temple of every defilement.” I thought it was Christ who was going
to cleanse the soul temple, didn’t you? And we said we can’t do it. Now
we’re stuck, aren’t we? We’re up a dead end street. Listen, I’m going
to read some more now. To cleanse the soul temple of every defilement.
“Then the latter rain will fall upon us as the early rain fell
upon the disciples on the Day of Pentecost.” Then and not until
then. Now, have we got a job to do?
(Wilfred) It looks like we have a job to do. But I want to read some
other statements now because I don’t want to leave you like that or
you’ll go home with a handkerchief in one hand and tears in the other.
Desire of Ages, page 97, “No man can of himself cast out the
throng that have taken possession of the heart. Only Christ can cleanse
the soul temple. But He will not force an entrance. He comes not into
the heart as to the temple of old; but He says, "Behold, I stand at the
door, and knock:” .... Remember where that comes from?
(A man in the audience) Revelation.
(Wilfred) And the message is to whom?
(John) To Laodicea.
(Wilfred) To us.
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my
voice, and open the door, I will come in to him." Now, what is He
going to do when He comes in? Cleanse the temple. Can you reconcile
I want to read another one. Christ’s
Object lessons page 94, This is
the old edition, “In all who will submit themselves to the Holy Spirit
a new principle of life is to be implanted; the lost image of God is to
be restored in humanity.”
“But man cannot transform himself by the exercise of his will. He
possesses no power by which this change can be effected. The
renewing energy must come from God. The change can be made only by the
Holy Spirit. All who would be saved, high or low, rich or poor must
submit to the working of this power. As the leaven, when mingled with
the meal, works from within outward, so it is by the renewing of the
heart that the grace of God works to transform the life. No mere
external change is sufficient to bring us into harmony with God. There
are many who try to reform by correcting this or that bad habit, and
they hope in this way to become Christians, but they are beginning in
the wrong place. Our first work is with the heart”.
"The heart must be converted and sanctified. The
man who attempts to
keep the commandments of God from a sense of obligation merely - because
he is required to do so - will never enter into the joy of obedience. He
does not obey. When the requirements of God are accounted a burden
because they cut across human inclination, we may know that the life is
not a Christian life. True obedience is the outworking of a principle
within. It springs from the love of righteousness, the love of the law
of God. The essence of all righteousness is loyalty to our Redeemer.
This will lead us to do right because it is right - because right doing
is pleasing to God.” Now, there you’ve got it.
I’ve got to cleanse my own soul temple from every defilement, and I
can’t do it before I get the Holy Spirit in the latter rain, and I
can’t do it. Can you reconcile those two statements?
(John) I can reach a decision that that’s what I want.
(Wilfred) That’s right. And you can go beyond that.
(Another man in the audience) I can move in that direction as far as I
(Wilfred) That’s right. That is your part in cleansing the soul temple.
And it is possible, under the influence of the former rain to obey
every commandment of God. And that's as far as you can cleanse your
soul temple. You cannot transform the heart, I read it to you, you
cannot change your heart any more than a leopard can change his
spots. So, the farthest you can go is to keep God’s commandments, even
though they go against your grain, even though there is resistance, you
have to buck it, you’ve got to wrestle to overcome, didn’t I read that
tonight? That’s your part. And you’ve got to overcome those sins to
qualify for the latter rain. Because the Lord is not going to transform
that heart and give you the power that Adam had and that Lucifer had
until He knows that you are not going to abuse it like they did. And
you’ve got to prove to the universe that He is justified in giving it
to you, and you prove it by your obedience. I can read it from the
Bible. in Acts, “The Holy Spirit is given to those that obey Him.”
That’s what Peter said.
(Linda) If I am struggling to overcome something and
I just can’t do it and I try, and I try, and I try. Am I not trying
hard enough or do I not have the power?
(Wilfred) You don’t have the power.
(Linda) Then it’s not my fault.
(Wilfred) In a sense, that’s right. But are you fulfilling all the
other conditions for the reception of the spirit? That we read tonight.
(Linda) If I want to overcome that sin more than
anything and I strive day after day, after day, after day, and I just
(Wilfred) Ok. Then you go to God and you say, Lord, you’ve seen what I
have been trying to do. And you do like Jacob did, and you may not
with me on this point but I believe that the time of Jacob’s trouble
starts before probation closes, his trouble was he wanted the assurance
of forgiveness of sins and the power to get rid of his guilt so he
could face his brother who was coming to kill him. And we can get into
that same predicament can’t we?
(Wilfred) And what did he do? He wrestled with God. He pleaded with
God. He wouldn't let Him go until He blessed him. Try it.
(Larry) He had to forsake all known sins this is
(Wilfred) But she is talking about the one she is trying to forsake and
I had two ice cream popsicles today, one right after the other, they
were in the fridge there, and I saw them, they looked good.
(A man in the audience) Doesn’t God let us struggle on a little bit to
recognize our weakness?
(Wilfred) Why sure! And when we are good and sure that we can’t do it
we turn to Him. And if He doesn’t give it to us right away we think,
what kind of a God is He anyway? Why doesn’t He fulfill His promises?
And we get a little animosity sometimes. Don’t we?
(Linda) When He is sure He can trust us He’ll give it
(Wilfred) Yes. He’s, again, trying to develop the right characteristics
in us through this experience of struggling with sin. That’s what He
trying to do. We have got to develop total surrender, patience,
humility, and I read these things here tonight.
(Linda) Define “Surrender”.
(Wilfred) Define “Surrender’? Ok. For the tenth time. But you may not
have been with me when I said it ten times.
Surrender, is doing God’s will instead of your own. When God says,
don’t eat two popsicles, in a row, I haven’t found where He says that
but He says something that gives me the idea that maybe that’s what He
meant. When He says, don’t eat two popsicles in a row, when you don’t
need them. There might be a time when that will be necessary. Now I can
feature a time when that might be a Legitimate thing to do. But when He
says that and that is what I want to do, I want to eat two popsicles in
a row, and God says don’t eat to popsicles in a row, surrender means
don’t eat two popsicles in a row.
(A woman in the audience) But that requires power.
(Wilfred) Will power. And she says, you don’t yet appreciate the power
of your will. Do you know that there is power in your will to obey
every one of God’s commandments? I know that because she says that any commandment contains within itself the power to do it.
(A woman in the audience) So we are going to have the power all the
time to do it.
(Wilfred) That’s right. That applies not only to you Sister, but
applies to everyone of us.
(Larry) Can you give us the quotation on that?
(Wilfred) What quotation was that?
(Larry) She says every commandment has the power needed....
(Wilfred) I’ll have to look it up.
(John) Well, here’s one, a paraphrase, It says, All of
his biddings are enabling.
(Wilfred) That’s right.
(John) Really, the problem is lack of faith, we don’t
have faith that God has given us that power to implement the
(Wilfred) She says it exactly that way. She says we have not laid hold
of the power by faith. She says just that. That’s exactly what she
(John) It’s a lack of faith that causes us to stumble
(Wilfred) Ted’s got something for us.
(Many voices) Unintelligible
(Wilfred) Yes, Love is the power.
(Ted) It’s been reassuring what you’ve been talking about. She says, If
you will seek the Lord and be converted every day; if you will of your
own spiritual choice be free and joyous in God; if with gladsome
consent of heart to His gracious call you come wearing the yoke of
Christ, - the yoke of obedience and service, - all your murmurings will
be stilled, all your difficulties will be removed, all the perplexing
problems that now confront you will be solved. Thoughts from the Mount
of Blessings, page 101.
(Linda) That’s why I asked you a while ago what it was
that Christ was doing for me because I know if I can just get a vision
of that love He’s got for me that will make me stop sinning. I don’t
want anything to come between us. I need to know.
(Wilfred) We’re going to go over that next week if all goes well,
that’s what I plan to do next week. The Sword of the Lord. Which is
going to give you a vision of Christ you are going to see his love in a
way that you’ve never seen it before. But you’ve got to be prepared to go
into that experience or it will knock you for a loop. You’re going to
be baptized with the baptism and you’re going to drink the cup. But
when you go through that experience you’re going to find out what He
did. And that’s going to open up to you a revelation of His tremendous
love. How could He do it? And if He did that for me how could I sin
against Him? And Love will start simmering in your heart, and love is
the power of the gospel. When you love somebody enough, you will do
anything for them, even die for them. Does that make sense?
Well, I think I have said enough for one day. It’s just about two
hours. So, I’m ready to quit. If you want to continue to discuss
something, find. If you want to go, that’s fine with me. If you want,
John, we can dismiss with prayer. Then anybody who wants to leave can
leave and if there is anybody who wants to continue discussing
something that could be mutually arraigned I suppose.
(The end of this two C/D series on the Review, Plus
Receiving The Holy Spirit)