The Two Witnesses and The Elijah Message


By
J. Wilfred Johnson
February 25th 1976

Transcribed from C/Ds #29, #30, #31, #32, and #33
Nov. 8th  2012 thru Dec. 11th 2012


(Wilfred) I thought to share with you just one or two statements here. This is The Desire of Ages page 762. “The law requires righteousness, - a righteous life, a perfect character; and this, man has not to give. He cannot meet the claims of God's holy law.” Now listen to this next statement. “But Christ, coming to earth as a man, lived a holy life, and developed a perfect character. These He offers as a free gift to all who will receive them.” That is his holy life and his perfect character that He developed in humanity He offers to us. “His life stands for the life of men.” Now that’s the substitution, but He also offers it by way of impartation so that it becomes our possession.

Page 805 in the same book. “The Holy Spirit was not yet fully manifested; for Christ had not yet been glorified. The more abundant impartation of the Spirit did not take place untill after Christ's ascension.” In other words, up until that time there was something in the way of the Holy Spirit that was not delivered to mankind. And I think we have discussed that haven’t we? I just wanted you to have the statement that indicated that this was so and it goes on to say that, “The Holy Spirit is the breath of spiritual life in the soul.” In other words, as God breathed into Adams nostrils the breath of physical life and he became a living soul so He breathes into the human soul the breath of the Holy Spirit which is the breath of spiritual life. “The impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.” Now that’s talking about the eternal life of Christ, the life that He had in himself, not the physical human life. Do you understand? And that’s the only way that we can receive eternal life.

Now tonight I’m going to deal with a subject that I hope you won’t find any difficulty with because I’m going to present what we now understand with reference to the subject and I am going to unfold some additional things which were made clear to me more than thirty years ago and I am sharing them with you for a very definite reason and I hope you are able to follow and you don’t get too sleepy and above all that you don’t get a half concept of the thing and inadvertently discuss it so that it becomes a matter of some problem with reference to a basic truth. I would recommend as I have done before that when we move into some of these more profound areas that we use discretion in what we do with them, that it is better to ponder these things in your heart, check them out and when they become perfectly clear to you then and then only is it wise to begin sharing them with someone else.

I’m going to talk tonight about the two witnesses and the Elijah message. I believe that these things are eminent and pertinent and we understand a certain amount about them but our concept is not as thoroughly grasped as I think it needs to be grasped. I have listened to many sermons on this subject and I’m quite convinced that the statement I just made is true. So, let’s move into it and move as fast as we can. I may not be able to finish it tonight if I don’t then I’ll finish it next week.

Let’s turn to Revelation Chapter 11 and we can start with verse three, we won’t go very far in here we just want to get a thought. It says here, 3 “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.” Now to identify these two witnesses I’m going to go to The Great Controversy page 266. “The periods here mentioned - "forty and two months," and "a thousand two hundred and threescore days" - are the same, alike representing the time in which the church of Christ was to suffer oppression from Rome.” Do you get the reference concerning the thousand two hundred and threescore days? It is the time that the Church of Christ was to suffer oppression from Rome and every Adventist is familiar with this time period it began A.D. 538 and terminated in A.D. 1798. “At that time a French army entered Rome and made the pope a prisoner, and he died in exile. Though a new pope was soon afterward elected, the papal hierarchy has never since been able to wield the power which it before possessed.” “Through the influence of the Reformation the persecution was brought to an end prior to 1798.” She says here that the persecution of the church did not continue throughout the entire period of the 1260 years but “God in his mercy to his people cut short the time of their fiery trial. In foretelling the "great tribulation" to befall the church, the Saviour said: "Except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." Concerning the two witnesses the prophet declares further: "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." "Thy word," said the psalmist, "is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Revelation 11:4; Psalm 119:105.” Now here is the statement that identifies who these two witnesses are. “The two witnesses represent the Scriptures of the Old and the New Testament. Both are important testimonies to the origin and perpetuity of the law of God. Both are witnesses also to the plan of salvation.” Now do you see the two aspects that she ties in with the witness of these two testaments? The origin and perpetuity of the law of God, that’s number one. And the plan of salvation. That’s number two. These two witnesses are centered around a revelation of the origin and perpetuity of the law of God and of the plan of salvation. Now there are many other things involved here in the historical aspect of this thing and I am not going to take time to go into all of it but we will have to take just a little of it because this is representative of something which is going to occur to God’s people today.

"They shall prophecy a thousand two hundred and three-score days, clothed in sackcloth." During the greater part of this period, God's witnesses remained in a state of obscurity.” Got that point? “The papal power sought to hide from the people the word of truth, and set before them false witnesses to contradict its testimony. When the Bible was proscribed by religious and secular authority; when its testimony was perverted, and every effort made that men and demons could invent to turn the minds of the people from it; when those who dared proclaim its sacred truths were hunted, betrayed, tortured, buried in dungeon cells, martyred for their faith, or compelled to flee to mountain fastnesses, and to dens and caves of the earth - then the faithful witnesses prophesied in sackcloth.” Now do you see the meaning of the sackcloth idea? That they were suppressed, repressed, and it was a religious power which was using its authority to force religious dogma upon the people, or to withhold the truth from the people. “Yet they continued their testimony throughout the entire period of 1260 years. In the darkest times there were faithful men who loved God's word and were jealous for his honor. To these loyal servants were given wisdom, power, and authority to declare his truth during the whole of this time.” "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies:” This is just quoting on into Revelation 11, I’m just reading it from The Great Controversy. “Men cannot with impunity trample upon the Word of God. The meaning of this fearful denunciation is set forth in the closing chapter of the Revelation:” Which says. "I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Such are the warnings which God has given to guard men against changing in any manner that which He has revealed or commanded. These solemn denunciations apply to all whom by their influence lead men to regard lightly the law of God. They should cause those to fear and tremble who flippantly declare it a matter of little consequence whether we obey God's law or not. All who exalt their own opinions above divine revelation, all who would change the plain meaning of Scripture to suit their own convenience, or for the sake of conforming to the world, are taking upon themselves a fearful responsibility.” Then she goes on to talk about how the beast that ascended out of the bottomless pit makes war against them, and she says that this is a new manifestation of satanic power. And she refers to the great city where they are slain, spiritual Egypt and spiritual Sodom, she points out that the sin of Egypt was defiance of Jehovah. Like when Pharaoh said when Moses was to take the children of Israel out of Egypt, see; bring them out of sin so to speak. "Who is Jehovah that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not Jehovah neither will I let Israel go".

And then Sodom, I’d better read it here, “The corruption of Sodom in breaking the law of God was especially manifested in licentiousness.” Then she goes on to show that there was only one power in history that fits this description and all the details of it and that was France. And I am not going to go through all that history, if you want to go through it you can read it in the Great Controversy. It’s given in quite some detail here but I simply wanted you to know that the reference here to these two witnesses is to the New and Old testaments, the word of God, and that they testified during this period which took place during the French revolution. And that is all we need to know for the purpose that we are going to study tonight.

Now lets just take another look at it. This is of no value to us unless we can apply it to our experience at this time. And all the experiences which have occurred to God’s people in the pass have occurred as a portion of an education for those people who are living in the last days when the ends of the world shall come. When the purposes of the world’s history is being climaxed and fulfilled. Now this is the point. So let’s take a closer look and see what comes out of here when we put some of these pieces together and I hope you will remember some of those quotations I read you now and you will see how as we apply the principles as given in those quotations that I read you here two or three weeks ago how we learned something that we probably did not discover before.

I want you to notice that in verse 4 “These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. “Now it represents these two testaments, the Old and New Testaments, which incidentally are also called the Old and New Covenants. The word Testament and Covenant is used interchangeably with reference to the Word. They are standing before the God of the Earth. They are two witnesses standing before the God of the Earth. Now that seems rather an odd way to present this in terms of two books, right? But, God has a deeper meaning in here, see? You’ll find this many times in the Bible that there is one interpretation that makes a reasonable amount of sense but there is some little points that is given in the description that don’t seem to fit too well. Well, the reason for that is that there is another interpretation to unfold in that thing where those little points do fit.

Now the word I’m going to pick out of here is “Standing before the God of the Earth”. And I’m going to show you, I hope, that there are two literal witnesses who actually do stand before the God of the whole Earth and have done so and they are very plainly portrayed in the Bible. You will find the first one in Exodus 24. There are several texts in here that we could get it from. And about verse 12, “And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.” And down in verse 15. “And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.”  Verse 18 “And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.” There are some other points I would like to bring in here as we move along.

First of all you might want to notice; where did Moses get the tables from?

(A man in the audience) From God.

(Wilfred) God gave them to him, right? And who had written on them?

(Same man) God.

(Wilfred) God had. You might want to turn over to Chapter 34. Just hold that one with your finger because we are coming back. Verse 1 “And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.” Do you remember when he came down from the mount the first time they were worshiping the golden calf and he threw down those tables? So the tables that the Lord wrote the law on, they were destroyed, they were broken. The next time it was Moses that had to hew out the tables himself, but the Lord wrote the second time on those tables. So it’s still the Lord’s writing, but the tables were prepared by Moses. It’s just an interesting thought.

Again Moses had to go up to the top of the Mount and He stood with the Lord there, verse 5, see it? “And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord. 6 And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, 7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.” And Chapter 33 verse 9. “And it came to pass as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord talked with Moses. 10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshiped, every man in his tent door. 11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.” Now I wanted you to notice that Moses had a relationship with God, which was Christ, in which he was accepted up into the mount of God, which is called Mount Horeb, and he stood with God forty days and forty nights on two occasions and he received the Commandments, the Covenant, I didn’t read you that text I guess where it calls it the Covenant that He gave to him, and he delivered that Covenant to the people.

He stood before the Lord in place of the people. I think maybe that’s 33:17, no that’s not it. But let’s read that one too, I’ve got several here that; maybe I should read them all.

Verse 17 of Chapter 33, “And the Lord said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. 18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.” That’s what Moses said. And the Lord said I’ll do it. “19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.” Now that was quite an experience for Moses.

Exodus Chapter 3....

(Man in the audience) (Asking about a statement)

(Wilfred) I’m coming to it. I’ve got the text someplace; I’ll come across them.

(Same Man) All right,

(Wilfred) Exodus 3 verses 1 and 2. You will remember that Moses knew while he was down in Egypt that he was going to be called upon to deliver Israel out of Egypt. Did you know that? It’s in Acts, I don’t think I have the exact reference, maybe I can find it fairly quickly, I see some of you shaking your heads. Well maybe I should just leave that and find it later. Oh, here it is, I’ve got it. Chapter 7 of Acts and we’ll start at verse 21 “And when he was cast out, Pharaoh's daughter took him up, and nourished him for her own son. 22 And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.” He had an excellent education. 23 “And when he was full forty years old, it came into his heart to visit his brethren the children of Israel. 24 And seeing one of them suffer wrong, he defended him, and avenged him that was oppressed, and smote the Egyptian:” Why did he do this? 25 “For he supposed his brethren would have understood how that God by his hand would deliver them: but they understood not.” See? Moses understood what his calling was at that point but the people didn’t. And when he went to visit the brethren down there he saw one of them being abused, he defended him and, you know that he smote the Egyptian, it doesn’t say it here it says it in the Old Testament. He killed him and buried him in the sand and he thought maybe this would be all right but the news got out and Moses became frightened, he took off and went into the land of Median for another forty years were the Lord had to tame him down and put him through his school. He had forty years of training in the Egyptian school now he was to get forty years in the Lord’s school and by the time he had that he was one of the meekest men the Earth had seen. And now we can go back to Chapter 3 and we’ll see what happened after he had been in Median for forty years.

One day he was pasturing the sheep; it was in the desert, there wasn’t much grass. So here we are in Exodus Chapter 3 verse 1 “Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb,” Now before we go further I’ll answer Doctor Dean’s question here. You’ll find it in Acts chapter 7:30 one of them, there is more than one that will prove this. But Acts chapter 7:30 will verify that Horeb is the same mountain as mount Sinai for purposes of this particular experience. It says; 29 Then fled Moses at this saying, and was a stranger in the land of Madian, where he begat two sons. 30 And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sinai an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.” Now back to Exodus chapter 3 verse 2 “And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.” So Moses said, I’d better take a look at this, this is rather interesting so he took a closer look at it. 4 “And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. 5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. 6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. 7 And the Lord said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows;” This was forty years after Moses knew He was supposed to lead them out. Do you understand? And He says, 8 “And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large,” Did you notice who was going to bring them out? 

(A man in the audience) God was.

(Wilfred) God was. What had been Moses’ idea when he was down in Egypt?

(Woman in the audience) He was going to do it.

(Wilfred) He was going to do it. Do you see the reference to the Old Covenant and the New Covenant principle? The Old Covenant that we’re going to do it, the New Covenant that God is going to do it.

To bring them out of that land into a good land and large unto a land flowing with milk and honey;” And so on. “And I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.” Now who is going to do it? Now who is going to do it? Moses, but who is the one who is really doing it?

(A man in the audience) God,

(Wilfred) And did Moses find that out? He sure did. Then He promises; 12 “And he said, Certainly I will be with thee;” 11 “And Moses said unto God Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh,” See his change in attitude? He didn’t want to go now. “And that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?” And God said, “Certainly I will be with thee and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.” God was going to bring them back there again which He did and that’s where they got the law. “13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you, and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses. I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 5 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. And He goes on to give him further instructions and Moses kept on arguing. Down in verse 19 “And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand.” Who said that?

 (A man in the audience) God did.

(Wilfred) God did. 20 “And I will stretch out my hand and smite Egypt with all my wonders” Well Moses said down in Chapter 4 “But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The Lord hath not appeared unto thee.” Now what is Moses manifesting?

(A man in the audience) Doubt.

(Wilfred) Doubt, lack of faith in God’s ability to do it. So then He said, what have you got in your hand there? I’ve got a rod. Well, throw it on the ground. “And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it." Moses was in bad shape. 4 “And the Lord said unto Moses put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail.” Can you just see him dancing around there trying to pick it up? "And he put forth his hand, and caught it,” Give him credit for that, He did it “And it became a rod in his hand:” So, is that enough now, Moses? Well, It wasn’t. “6 And the Lord said furthermore unto him, put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow. 7 And he said, put thine hand into thy bosom again.” And he took it out and it was just like his other flesh all healed again. 8 “And it shall come to pass if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. 9 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land.” Now the Lord didn’t have him demonstrate that at that point, I presume that there was no water there. 10 “And Moses said unto the Lord, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.” Still arguing. What a man, he’s just a perfect picture of you and me. You know, when we are asked to go ingathering and stuff like that, at least it’s a picture of me. 11 “And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth?” Moses have you forgotten who made your mouth? Didn’t you see that rod turn into a serpent? Didn’t you see how that hand changed? And you don’t think that I can take care of the little problem with your mouth? And He says; “Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the Lord? 12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.” But what substitute did God give him? 13 “And he said, O my Lord, send I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send. 14 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Moses,” Did you know that God got angry? He lost his temper so to speak. Moses had just gone too far.

(A woman in the audience) Righteous indignation.

(Wilfred) Yes, righteous indignation. Now Moses if this is the way you’re going to feel about it here’s what I’m going to do. “Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart. 15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do. 16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.” So Moses was saddled with that handicap that he had to use his brother Aaron as his mouthpiece because he did have faith enough to believe that God could heal his mouth.

All right, I think we have covered enough on Moses. Moses is the personal witness of God whom God called up to Horeb. First of all He called Him to deliver his people out of Egypt, literal Israel, out of literal Egypt. He called Moses to receive the Covenant to be delivered to literal ancient Israel, got that picture?

Now Let’s turn to I Kings Chapter 17 and we will find out who the other one of these witness’s is. Remember that these witnesses are intimately associated with the principles of God’s law and the reestablishment of his kingdom, the restoration of his people, and salvation of his people. Chapter 17 verse 1, I guess we could start. 1 “And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, As the Lord God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word.” Where did this fellow stand? He stood before God the same as Moses did. Elijah made this statement on a number of occasions.

Chapter 18 verse 15 is another one. 15 “And Elijah said; As the Lord of hosts liveth, before whom I stand, I will surely shew myself unto him to day.” Again he said, before whom I stand, he identifies his position with God each time.

Chapter 19 verse 8. This verse is after Elijah has had the Carmel experience remember? Where he gathered all the people together up on mount Carmel and he built these two altars and the people were to call upon their God Baal to come down and light the sacrifice and they did this all day long and nothing happened then Elijah had them pour water all over the altar and it ran all around the trench and he prayed to the Lord for fire to come down and light the altar and it licked up the whole thing, water and everything. Well after this had happened he went out, and it was after three and a half years of drought in Israel remember, he prayed that it might not rain for three and a half years it says over there in the New testament, and it didn’t rain nor was there any dew for three and a half years, and there was terrible difficulty with the people. But it was God that told him to do it and God took care of him, remember out by the brook for awhile and He had the ravens bring him food and then He sent him to a widow in Zarephath I think it was, and miraculously this oil and meal did not disappear it just kept replenishing as they used it, so God preserved them? Then Elijah went back to show himself to Ahab and he had this Carmel experience. Then after the demonstration on Carmel he went with his servant and prayed seven times, he didn’t give up, the first time, nothing happened, the second time nothing happened, third time, nothing happened, not until the seventh time then the servant said I see a little cloud forming and Elijah knew that this was the token to the answer to the prayer and he went off to get the King and all the rest of them and he says to them, You better get on home, it’s gong to rain. And it says that he went before the chariot of the king all the way to Jezreel, was it? It rained so hard that he couldn’t see, he had to guide him by his prophetic instinct and then the poor fellow was exhausted after that experience. Then somebody told him that after Jezebel heard the story that she was out to get him, before the next sundown she was going to have him like he had destroyed the prophets of Baal. And I’m just skipping over the stories here I assume you are familiar with it.

What did this do to Elijah in his tired condition?

(A man in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) It surely did. It is hard for us to understand how that a man going through that experience on Carmel could have a let down like that. But he high-tailed it off and he was completely exhausted when he finally laid down out in the wilderness in the desert and he slept and an angel came and woke him up. And when he woke up there was some food there for him to eat and he ate and went to sleep again and an angel woke him again and so on. And it says he, "Went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights” Where to?

(A man in the audience) Horeb.

(Wilfred) To Horeb, the Mount of God. Now this is significant, the very same mountain.

Chapter 19 verse 7, “And the angel of the Lord came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee. 8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God. 9 And he came thither unto a cave, and lodged there;” And you remember Moses was placed in a cleft of a rock on Horeb. There are some people who think this is the very same cave, the very same place where Moses was. May or may not have been but he came to a cave and lodged there. “And, behold, the word of the Lord came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah? 10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant,” Now what was Elijah concerned about? The Covenant. What was Moses concerned about?

(Several voices at once)

(Wilfred) Well, he was concerned about the Covenant wasn’t he? I mean after the Lord delivered it to him and he delivered it to Israel. We didn’t read all that, there is a great deal in connection with that. But here is Elijah, he’s concerned about that Covenant, the people have forsaken it, “Thrown down thine altars,” Was Moses concerned about their forsaking God and building this false calf? “And slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. 11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord.” Where was he to go? Stand upon the mount, where? Before the Lord. Now that’s the point I was still working on from Revelation 11. These two witness’ stand before the Lord, see? They stand before the Lord, Moses did and Elijah did. “And, behold, the Lord passed by,” Did the Lord pass by Moses? Yes, He did. Did He pass by Elijah? Yes, the same experience, but there is a difference. And let’s note the difference, “And a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord but the Lord was not in the wind and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake: 12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire and after the fire,” A what?

(Several voices at once) A still small voice.

(Wilfred) A still small voice. What was it back there in Moses’ time?

(A woman in the audience) Thunder and lightening.

(Wilfred) I didn’t read that for you but it’s back there. I don’t think I’ll bother; you can look it up yourselves. It was thunder and lightening and clouds and commotion and the people were frightened and they didn’t dare come near, they went back to their tents. In fact the Lord gave them specific instruction as well, that they must not come near Him and they built some kind of barricade and when Moses went up to the mount the Lord said to him again, Don’t let the people come up, and Moses said, They won’t come up. So in that commotion back there on Moses’ experience the Lord was in there, He was in the cloud and Moses went up into the cloud and stood before the Lord. But now here was a wind an earthquake and a fire but the Lord wasn’t in them at all. Where was He? Well, where was the still small voice?

(A man in the audience) In his consciousness.

(Wilfred) Right in there. That’s right, right in there. Now, there is a significance in this. Moses delivered the Covenant to ancient Israel, it was written by the finger of God literally on two tables of stone and it was all external and the voice was literal, and it was a literal Christ who talked to Moses who he could actually see. Now Elijah didn’t see all that, he just heard this still small voice. And before we are through I hope that you’ll recognize that this is symbolic of the delivering of the Everlasting Covenant to modern spiritual Israel through the agency of the Holy Spirit and the still small voice of the Spirit, and the Law will be on the tables of the heart not on the tables of stone. Do you see what I am driving at? Well, we’ll pursue this a little further and I think maybe we’ll pick it up.

The voice again asks him; “What doest thou here, Elijah? 14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars and slain thy prophets with the sword: and I, even I only am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria: 16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abel-meholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.” In thy place. In other words; Elijah, your time here on Earth is about finished and I would like you to do this one little job for me yet, anoint these people and anoint this man Elisha to take your place. And then He went on to tell Elijah, well look, you think you are all alone but I’ve got seven thousand in Israel yet who have not bowed the knee to Baal, which is a rather interesting statement.

God’s people of today are going to have the feeling at one time or another that they are all alone that they are standing all alone. But, this is not so, God still has faithful children in Israel and will have. In fact He’ll have a hundred and forty four thousand of them.

Now what happened to these two men? Where did these two men go? Let’s find out what happened to Moses, Deuteronomy 34:5 “So Moses the servant of the Lord died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord.” The Lord took him up on the top of Nebo, on top of mount Pisgah and showed him the Promised Land. But his vision went beyond the Promised Land literally and he saw the promised land above. And the Lord says now, because you sinned back there in Meribah, I believe it was, I wish I had a better memory for historical things. Because you sinned back there and didn’t trust me and took some glory unto yourself you are not permitted to go into the Promised Land, that is the promised land here on Earth. So he died there 6 “And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth-peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. 7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.” God had miraculously preserved his strength 8 “And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moeb thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.” And it goes on to say; 10 “And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,” In fact in another place it says; A prophet shall the Lord thy God raise up unto thee like unto me. Moses was a type of Christ and Elijah was a type of the Holy Spirit and Enoch was a type of God the Father and these three men were all taken to heaven, translated.

Now you say: Did Moses go to Heaven? We find that over in Jude Chapter 9. It says here that he went into the grave but over in Jude verse 9 it says; 9 “Yet Michael the archangel,” Which is Christ. “when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,” Apparently, there was a conflict over Moses’ body between Christ and the Devil. The Devil wanted to keep him in the grave but Christ did not want him to stay there. Yet, it says that Christ, Michael “Durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Now The Spirit of Prophesy makes it very clear to us that Moses was indeed taken to Heaven and I find that in The Desire of Ages page 421. She is talking here about the experience of the transfiguration, remember when Jesus took Peter, James, and John up on the mount and He was transfigured and there stood with Him was Moses and Elijah. Remember that? Well, in connection with this she says, “The disciples, awaking, behold the flood of glory that illuminates the mount. In fear and amazement they gaze upon the radiant form of their Master. As they become able to endure the wondrous light, they see that Jesus is not alone. Beside Him are two heavenly beings, in close converse with Him. They are Moses, who upon Sinai had talked with God; and Elijah, to whom the high privilege was given--granted to but one other of the sons of Adam - never to come under the power of death.” He was translated. “Upon Mount Pisgah fifteen centuries before, Moses had stood gazing upon the Land of Promise. But because of his sin at Meribah, it was not for him to enter there. Not for him was the joy of leading the host of Israel into the inheritance of their fathers. His agonized entreaty, "I pray Thee, let me go over, and see the good land that is beyond Jordan, that goodly mountain, and Lebanon" (Deut. 3:25), was refused. The hope that for forty years had lighted up the darkness of the desert wanderings must be denied. A wilderness grave was the goal of those years of toil and heart-burdening care. But He who is "able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think" (Eph. 3:20) had in this measure answered his servant's prayer. Moses passed under the dominion of death, but he was not to remain in the tomb. Christ himself called him forth to life. Satan the tempter had claimed the body of Moses because of his sin; but Christ the Saviour brought him forth from the grave. Moses upon the mount of transfiguration was a witness. What was he? A witness to Christ's victory over sin and death. He represented those who shall come forth from the grave at the resurrection of the just. Elijah, who had been translated to heaven without seeing death, represented those who will be living upon the earth at Christ's second coming, and who will be "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump;" when "this mortal must put on immortality," and "this corruptible must put on incorruption." Moses is a representative of the risen saints, and Elijah of the translated ones. So we see in this experience that there is a relationship, at least in terms of the translation to the experience of the hundred and forty four thousand. These men then were both taken to heaven, and the next question is what were they taken up there for? Well, they were taken up there to be witnesses because something was going to happen in order to fulfill the terms of the Everlasting Covenant and the outworking of the plan of salvation. And God chose two human beings to witness this so that they could testify as to what happened. Now I think I referred to this in a previous meeting some time back, I can’t remember which one, I wanted to check it today but you know it takes two hours to go through each of those tapes and I just didn’t have that much time. There are six of them I think now and I didn’t have time to do it so I don’t remember just where it was but I am sure that I referred to it once before. I’ll briefly run over it without giving any references or that type of thing.

In heaven there is a sanctuary, a tabernacle, on Earth there was a tabernacle and later a temple, which was patterned after the one in heaven. Moses got those instructions and he had it built and the tabernacle was designed to teach the children of Israel the principles involved in the sacrificial death of Christ for their salvation. Now it was an object lesson book and they didn’t understand it very well but one thing the Lord tried to get across to them was the fact that without the shedding of the blood there was no remission of sin. They couldn’t manage it themselves, they didn’t last very long when they promised to do it, about forty days, just a few days, and they broke it, and they continued to break it right on down through and they continued to have to take advantage of the sacrificial ceremonies as a lesson book. Now those ceremonies, those weren’t the things that forgave them of their sin or cleaned them up, that was a lesson book to teach them the gruesomeness of sin. Think about having to take an animal every time you sinned and slay it with your own hands and take its life because of your sin, this is what the Lord was trying to get across to them, and the animal of course represented Christ. Now, some of you may not be aware of this, and if it is a new thought to you don’t become too shocked at it, the more you think about it the more you realize that it is correct. Before Christ came to this world in the form of a tiny seed in Mary’s womb He had to dispose of his former body and blood in some fashion or other or He would be existing in two places at once, and the Bible doesn’t teach that. The Bible teaches that He left his home in glory and came down here to live, that’s what it teaches. So we know then that He had to dispose of this body and blood, whatever it was, and I’m not saying that it was literal blood like human blood or a literal body like the human body. But it was a literal body because Moses saw it and it was so intense with power and radiation that it radiated Moses’ body, even that little glimpse that he got of the back part of God so that when Moses came down from the mount the people could not stand to look at him he was so bright, his face shown and he had to put a veil over his face whenever he talked to the people. When they were gone he could take it off, how long that lasted it doesn’t say. It dissipated itself by and by. But the point is; Christ had a body that He lived in and it had life blood because man is made in the image of God so there was something that corresponded to the blood and the Bible tells us very plainly that He shed that blood for the remission of sins. And He told us in the last supper that that body was broken and divided to bestowed upon his people, they’re to eat it and assimilate it. He said except you eat my flesh and drink my blood you’ve got no life in you. Here is the eternal life of Christ in that body, the spirit of life in that body is the life that lives by itself so to speak, He had life in himself, He wasn’t dependent on anyone else for life, it was within himself. We are dependent on God for life. Now this is the eternal life of Christ which He relinquished, The Desire of Ages. He gave it that we might have it and He taught it in the last supper. Tremendous lesson in there. And He said that it is the New Testament in My blood, the New Covenant in My blood, here is one of those witnesses, the New Testament, it’s tied in with the communion service with the blood of Christ. Which we have also discussed, and I think I have shown you that it represents the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God is the eternal life Spirit of Christ. I read you the statement that the Holy Spirit is the very soul of the life of Christ. And another one I think I read to you tonight that the impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ.

Now in that sanctuary up there, in the court of that sanctuary is where this Great eternal Christ voluntarily relinquished the life that he had in himself, He says; I have power to lay it down and power to take it again, He laid it down. I can’t give you details I don’t know them. I simply know that what he had was stipulated in the last will and testament which He made out in the terms of the Everlasting Covenant between himself and his Father was stipulated to be under the care of the Father as the administrator of his estate, his will, and it was to be delivered to mankind under the terms of the New Covenant. All those who would accept Jesus as the Son of God, the Christ, the God of the universe would receive it. The Bible says that if you don’t except Jesus as the Son of God you are none of his, but if you do, you are his.

Now this took place up there and Christ chose to have two human witnesses see it, so they know what happened. In fact Christ instructed them concerning the total plan of salvation before He did it. And when that little baby showed up in a manger in Bethlehem it no longer had that everlasting memory of all things that have ever happened, it was a mind like you and I have. Do you remember back when you were about two years old? And He was able to live the example of a perfect life, not because He inherently had his eternal life in Him, He relinquished it voluntarily, but only in terms of what the Father gave Him and that was all stipulated in the will, it was all worked out. And He received no power from his Father to live a perfect life in this world that is not also freely available to you. We’ve gone over that but I’m reviewing some of these things so we don’t lose the points and miss the integration of the concept. Why did He want these two men to see this thing up there? Well, so they could bear testimony as to what happened. Now, you may question that as yet but I think when you finally get the whole picture you will see that it makes sense. And I’m not through yet; I’m just barely starting.

Hebrews Chapter 10, there is quite a bit in this chapter that bears on what I have just been saying. 1 "For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers hereunto perfect.” He is saying here that this law of sacrifices which you have to carry out year by year, that can’t make anybody perfect. 2 “For then would they not have ceased to be offered?” Wouldn’t they? See, if it made them perfect why would you keep on offering them then? “Because that the worshipers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.” Remember the Day of Atonement in which the sanctuary had to be cleansed? So every year you were reminded that it wasn’t perfect. 4 “For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 “Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:” Did you notice what that said? Wherefore when He cometh into the world, He wasn’t still up in heaven He came into the world. He saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me, that was the body of Jesus which was prepared to accept Christ, the person of Christ. 6 “In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.” Who’s talking? Christ is and He’s coming, it’s written of Him in the book. What’s He coming to do? To do the will of God. 8 “Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.” In other words He is talking about the old ceremonial services, they are taken away. Now He’s going to establish the new permanent sacrificial service, which is what I have just pointed out, took place in the heavenly sanctuary.

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10 “By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Now please notice that there is a dual meaning in there. Christ offered his body in the sense that He permitted them to do with Him what they would. But He still retained that body He still lives in it. The original body that He had He relinquished and at the last supper He says; I am not again going to partake of this until I partake of it anew with you in the Kingdom. The saints are going to partake of the body of Christ. I’ve shown you that, John Chapter 6 and in the communion service. The new body of Christ, so to speak, the new mystical body of Christ which restores what was originally but in a different form is compose of a hundred and forty four thousand saints with Jesus as the head. It takes a hundred and forty four thousand human brains to make up the capacity of the original body of Christ and I think it goes a little beyond that because there is a multitude of people that are saved and they also have a part at a different level in the body of Christ, but I can’t go into those details. I’m concerned about principles, I’m talking about the two witnesses now and I would like you to understand that they were there to see it and there was a reason why they were there to see it and the Lord was very specific in explaining it, at least I think He is.

Yes, do you have a question?

(A man in the audience) Can we just back up for a second? Your reference to a body that thou hath prepared for me. Now, is He referring to the human body? Christ didn’t realize He was the Son of God, Christ, until He received the Spirit of Christ? I may be a bit long winded here,

(Wilfred) You are asking me, did Jesus know that He was Christ?

(Same man) Up until such time as He received the Spirit of Christ?

(Wilfred) No, He didn’t. He only knew in so far as his mother had been informed before his birth and she had taught Him as He grew older. But you must also remember that he was endowed with the Spirit right from the start. And from that standpoint we wouldn’t really know where He had any positive knowledge of himself. But we do have a reference in The Spirit of Prophesy which tells us that when He was twelve years of age, well it tells in the bible that when He was twelve years of age He went into Jerusalem but she says at that point when He was observing the services in Jerusalem He received an understanding of his position as the sacrifice. And then as He grew older from twelve to thirty years of age his education of course continued to expand. It says that He grew in knowledge and stature and favor with God and man.

(Same man) In this situation is there sort of a dual personality with the body that was prepared for Christ hadn’t He received the Spirit of Christ. Was He aware of one or the other or how could a person put that?

(Wilfred) Well your dealing with something that is a little difficult to understand unless you actually went through the experience yourself.

(Same man) Because He’s talking about the body that was prepared for Him.

(Wilfred) Which was the human body.

(Same man) Yes, I was wondering whether there was a point where the Spirit of Christ and the body of Christ were two separate things.

(Wilfred) Oh, I see. Well, the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit which went back to God who gave it just like our spirit of life goes back to God when we die. When He laid down his life in the heavenly sanctuary that life which He had in himself went back to God who gave it. Now you may think I’m talking heresy here but the Bible says plainly, they are the words of Jesus in the Bible, He said; As the Father hath life in himself, Can any one quote it? What’s that word?

(A man in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) .....Given the Son to have life in himself. Where did the Son get life in himself from?

(A man in the audience) The Father.

(Wilfred) Well, that’s the way I read it. I don’t think it could be any plainer than that. So, in The Story of Redemption it also tells us that it was God who honored Christ and who had placed Him in that position. And before He left heaven to come down here, The Desire of Ages, she says plainly that He gave back the scepter into the hand of the Father. Now that word “back” is there and in my feeble way of thinking it’s quite plain that if it went back to the Father He must have received it from the Father in the first place. And I have found nothing yet in any of the books or the Bible that contradicts that. It seems to be quite plain to me. But once the Father had given the Son that He never took it back. It was the son who voluntarily turned it over to the Father according to the terms of the last will and testament. Before He died He decided what to do with his heritage, what God had given Him and He did exactly what was necessary to fulfill the law of God, which is total self-sacrifice. He proved that God himself keeps his own law. Voluntarily Christ totally emptied himself of all his possessions and his life and he said; I have power to take it back again. He says; I have power to take it back again. Can you find any place where it says that He took it back? I find several places in my Bible where it says; God raised him from the dead. She says that He came forth from the tomb by a means of a power that was inherent in himself, well, that’s true, because the power that He came forth from the tomb from was the power that God had granted him. But He had laid that power down but it was still his, the Father didn’t take it back, the Son laid it down. And according to the terms of the covenant the Father was to raise the Son from the dead by his own life power. Did you get the point? And the Son when He becomes the high priest will pray the Father to give the Spirit, which is Christ’s Spirit to Brother Gustersen and Sister Grange and anybody that He prays for. If you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of God and as your personal Savior Jesus will ask the Father to forgive your sins and send you the Spirit. Now there are various measures of the spirit you see and I read to you tonight one that says that there was an abundant outpouring of that Spirit which had never been given before until after Christ had ascended. And I think you can understand what that was now, can’t you? That was the Spirit of life of the Son of God that He had relinquished under the terms of the covenant which is now going to be granted to God’s people and He himself partakes of it as He becomes married to his body. His new mystical body of saints in the marriage union of the Head with the body of the Husband and the bride as it is given in Ephesians; And they twain become one flesh. He says this is a great mystery but I speak concerning Christ and the Church. When that body is united, which it will be before the close of probation and that is why I’m talking about it because I honestly believe that you people are going to live through the close of probation, if not all of you, some of you. The Lord would not now be bringing these things to our attention if it weren’t time to do it. And He says He will do nothing but He reveals it to his servants the prophets before it happens. Right?

Now, before the close of probation that marriage union is going to take place. It has been in this book here since at least 1850, Early Writings, it was in a different edition but it was there and we are just reading about it and talking about it. Because now it is going to happen, the marriage union of the lamb is going to take place. But before it can take place the temples that are going to be part of that main temple, the people who are going to be pillars in that temple are going to have to be purified and made clean because the Holy Spirit can’t dwell in an impure temple. So we have a process of purification and cleansing. I am wandering off into some of these other rungs now from where I was. So let’s get back on the track.

The sacrifice of his body and blood once and for all to provide for the terms of the Everlasting Covenant to be fulfilled took place in the heavenly sanctuary. At any time when Christ was here on Earth He could have by a thought or a decision have returned to heaven and be reinstated exactly as He was before. He lived in this world, I should say from the time of his anointing at his baptism because that was the age of responsibility so far as his mission as Messiah was concerned, that was the point at which He became the Messiah and He was taken off into the wilderness, lead by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the Devil, here he was to prove himself. The character of Christ had to be tested to prove that it could stand or withstand the temptations of the Devil. Then He entered upon his ministry. That was one of the things that these two men were to witness in heaven, they were to witness this sacrifice of Christ and they were to witness the out-working of the terms of the Everlasting Covenant, the last will and testament of Christ. And on the mount of transfiguration they came down to talk with Christ about his sufferings and death, Sister White says in The Desire of Ages. Now here you have a situation where Christ had placed himself in a position where He voluntarily was dependent upon the service of his two witnesses to bring him council regarding the experience He was going through and He himself had given them that council before that sacrifice up there. Obviously when Christ was in the manger He was not fully conscience and if you go further back then you have to admit that He was sound asleep. I think that’s logical isn’t it? He was no longer conscience as a person He was asleep. This was the first death, the death of sleep. And the Bible talks about it in those terms. Lazarus is not dead he is asleep. If you fulfill certain conditions you HAVE eternal life. Not that you are going to have it, you have it. But you just go to sleep you don’t die. Do you understand? There is a shadow of difference there and Christ, I use Christ and I think in terms of the original God and Jesus when I think in terms of the human then it’s easier to keep it segregated, it’s the same person. He was asleep until He became conscience over a period of years into the knowledge and understanding of His own personality, just like you did. You are aware that you live as a person now, before you were born you were not aware of it. While you were in the “manger” you weren’t aware of it, not until you grew older did you gradually become conscience of your existence and so did Jesus.

Now during his lifetime the Father delivered to him wisdom and understanding as He needed it for his daily work, to what extent this was delivered I don’t know. Whether He had any direct memory of his former existence I don’t know that either. I know that He could have, by a choice if He wanted it. But He placed himself in a position where He was entirely dependent upon God. He could say truthfully; Before Abraham was, I am. But He could say that knowing who He was, He wouldn’t necessarily have to remember it to say it, but maybe He did remember, that’s neither here nor there, the point is He had died the death of sleep and then He was raised into a new life, a new body, and He was very much alive and He functioned for thirty three years and then He died the second death on the cross of Calvary in more senses than one. It was the second serially and it was the second death of the sinner in which there is no hope of a resurrection. From that point on He had forever relinquished the possibility of returning to his former existence in the same way that He was before. He had made the final decision from here on in, my life now goes to the saints and if they fail me, it fails. That’s how much He is depending on you to permit him to complete the work of salvation in your heart so that He can make you a member in that body and when He gets a hundred and forty four thousand of them He can consummate the marriage and the mystical temple of Christ is restored. He says, Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up, He wasn’t just talking about his physical body, his human body, it has a deeper meaning than that. And I have read you those statements that verify that if you say it doesn’t you are not saying that which is activated by the Spirit of God. I read you that, there is a deeper meaning in all these statements of Christ. If you have forgotten them they are on the tapes.

Now, are we ready to go on? Let me just recapitulate what we have covered. Moses and Elijah stand before the God of the earth, the two witnesses of Revelation 11 stand before the God of the Earth, they are chosen vessels to bear personal witness to the Everlasting Covenant. Both of them met with God that is Christ, on Mount Horeb. Moses met with them face to face, Deuteronomy 5:2-5, he met the literal Christ under conditions of heavy physical commotion. Elijah also met with Christ on Mount Horeb but God did not manifest himself in these physical commotions, it was the still small voice of the Spirit of God. Moses saw God literally, Elijah did not, he just heard the still small voice. Both of them fasted forty days and forty nights.

I don’t know if you want to take the references on this; the physical commotion was Deuteronomy 5:2-5, and Exodus 34:5,6. One of them was face-to-face, the other one was the physical commotion. And with Elijah it was I Kings 19:12, he heard the still small voice. They fasted forty days and forty nights Exodus 24:18 and I Kings 19:8. Both were involved with the Covenant, Moses received two tables of stone, Exodus 34:27,28. Elijah, we will just have to leave him blank for a moment until we come back to it.

Moses delivered the Covenant to ancient literal Israel and they tried to keep it under the terms of what is now called the Old Covenant or the First Covenant which was really invented by the people, they decided that they would do it. But God had another plan because he knew they couldn’t do it. But he let them try it and they failed. But it was the same Covenant, the Covenant that was delivered, it says, was the Ten Commandments. Do I need to look that up and show it to you? It says it in so many words. The ten commandments was the covenant that Moses delivered to Israel. Now, Elijah will deliver the New Covenant to Spiritual Israel and it will be delivered by the Holy Spirit rather than the finger of Christ. It’s written by the Holy Spirit and will be recorded on the tables of the heart. Not on tables of stone. You will recognize that Moses was a type of Christ, Elijah is a type of the Holy Spirit and I hope you will see that as we go through some of these texts.

How’s our time? About twenty five minutes here. Are you getting tired, do you want to quite now and digest that until next week?

I’ve given you the transfiguration and I’ve read you those statements so I got a little ahead of time here.

Now Let’s turn to Malachi Chapter 4 and we will read the last three verses in the Old Testament. This is significant, I wonder if any of you ever noticed it before. Just for fun I think I’m going to ask you, and you can be honest about it. Did you ever notice that this is just between the two Testaments it’s the very last request and the very last promise that Christ ever made to his people before He made that tremendous sacrifice in the heavenly sanctuary? It’s the last promise and the last request that he made. And did you notice that the two witnesses are named, Moses the witness of the old testament who wrote the Old Testament or about whom and who’s books the Old Testament is written everything in the Old Testament is centered around what Moses wrote. He delivered that law, he delivered that Covenant, that’s what the Old testament is all about and it gives promise of the New that the Lord is going to make a New Covenant, that He’s going to write the law in the heart, that He is going to restore his people, that they are going to be his people and He will be their God. He’s going to forgive their iniquity, remember the New Covenant? And here is also Elijah, both of these men had been up on mount Horeb and met with God. One physically and literally and the other one with a still small voice. Don’t you see the relationship?

Now let’s read what it says; 4 “Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel” There’s Horeb again, which identifies it with Sinai. “With the statutes and judgments.” Has the law been done away with, has the Covenant been discarded, or does it still hold? The very last word of council that Christ gave before he died in the heavenly sanctuary is to remember. He said I gave it to Moses on Horeb, that’s it, don’t forget it. And then what does He say? 5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” And many people have pondered over those verses, and they have tried to construct what they mean, maybe this, maybe that, maybe something else. We are only safe if we take what God says. We don’t have to change it, just take it at what He says.

Now the Bible has quite a few things to say about this in one place or another and if we pick these pieces up and put them all together we aught to come up with the truth or something pretty close to it. Before we do it let’s just take a look at what He says; the first word there is what in verse 5?

(A woman in the audience) Behold.

(Wilfred) And what does that mean?

(A man in the audience) To look.

(Wilfred) To take a good look. When is He going to send Elijah?

(A man in the audience) Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

(Wilfred) When is the great and dreadful day of the Lord coming?

(A woman in the audience) Before his second coming.

(Wilfred) Before His second coming. Has it come yet?

No response.

(Wilfred) Does anyone think that it come yet? Well then before it comes this prophecy is going to have to be fulfilled, right? Somehow or other it’s got to be fulfilled. What’s He going to do?

(A man in the audience) Turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers.

(Wilfred) And what’s the significance of this children/father thing? I’ve listened to many many sermons on this and I’ve never heard it yet. The closest I’ve heard it was that we have a generation gap today and somebody’s got to heal that. Well, I agree with that I think that is true.

(A man in the audience) We are the children of the heavenly Father.

(Wilfred) Yeeeessss. Although He is talking here about “fathers” it’s plural. And if it isn’t done what’s going to happen? In other words the thing is going to be lost, see? Here is a curse rather than salvation if this doesn’t happen. So it must be something that is very important.

Now let’s see what the Bible has to say about this father/children thing. I think you’ll find it back in Exodus 20. Chapter 20 here’s where we have the ten commandments being delivered to Moses. Are we together now? Are we concentrating? We don’t want to miss this. Exodus 20, 1 “And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” That’s the first commandment. 4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God” This is the second commandment now. Watch it. “for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God” Doing what? “Visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my Commandments.” I want you to notice that this is right in the middle of the ten commandments, I also pointed out to you that those two witnesses deal with certain topics and one of those topics is the plan of salvation. And what does the plan of salvation hinge around? The Covenant and what was the covenant? He calls it the Old Testament the ten commandments, I didn’t read you that verse, I should have, I don’t know where it is at the moment. Do you see that there is a connection between this Elijah witness and his work and the Covenant or the ten commandments? Do you see that? Now can we figure out just what this is? Let me put it this way, how can a father continue in iniquity when he realizes that iniquity is going to be visited upon the children and the children’s children unto the third and fourth generation. If he can continue on in sin knowing that what kind of a heart has he got?

(A man in the audience) A stony heart.

(Wilfred) But if that heart is changed, if he has a heart of love for those children what’s going to happen to his decisions? What’s going to happen to the iniquity? Don’t you see? Now what about those poor kids? The commandment says; A little further down, verse 12, and I want you to notice that this is also in the commandments, taken right out of the last verse in the Old Testament and you can come right back here to the commandments and here it is; 12 “Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.” How can these kids honor their father and their mother if father is living in iniquity? Do you see that the hearts of the fathers and the children have to be turned to each other before iniquity can get out? There is to be an eradication of iniquity, there is to be an overcoming of sin but there is no way to overcome sin except through the New Covenant, the Everlasting Covenant which sends the Spirit of life from God that sheds the love of God abroad in the heart and constrains them to obey. It is out of the love of God in the heart that obedience comes. There is no other way to obey; there just is no other way. There has to be a change of heart and God’s witness is to bring an understanding of that covenant and invite the cooperation of God’s people and if they don’t except it, if they don’t do it, there is no one hundred and forty four thousand, there is no translation, there is no salvation, just a curse. Do you see how important it is? No, I don’t think you believe me. There is no salvation without the voluntary decision of the individual soul. Do you believe that? Now look, we should have been in the Kingdom ages ago and we’re not there and we're still going to be here a hundred years from now, no we’re not because the curse is going to come before then. I say that on the authority of God’s prophet and if we don’t respond there is no alternative. You either respond or the world is lost. Now, why haven’t we done it yet? Well we haven’t, we have not responded. The Lord is pouring out more and more of his love. The last message of mercy to a dying world, the last one, his last card is a full revelation of his love for mankind. And that’s coming, we’ve talked about it, it on the tapes, how's God going to do it? There isn’t any excuse for any of you who have heard those tapes or heard the messages, there is no excuse for you. When God does that, if you don’t recognize it you’re just either forgetful or stubborn. God is going to reveal his love in full because He is going to permit you to be baptized with the baptism and to drink the cup that Jesus did. So that you’ll get a personal taste of the terrible suffering that He went through and is going through to sustain probation for you so that you can make the decision to go with him. Every hour of every day He is suffering because of your sins. You don’t believe that? Because the Bible says that He suffered once for the sins of the world so then He suffers no more, hey? Now you can’t come to those conclusions, don’t jump to conclusions on one text, look at the text, what does it say? It says; He died once for the sins of what?

(John) The world.

(Wilfred) But what does it say happens when one who has accepted him continues in sin? He crucifies the Son afresh and don’t think that it doesn’t hurt. When you learn how much He is suffering for you then you will get a glimpse of the tremendous amount of love He has for you. Do you follow that? How can He do it? How can He endure so long, waiting, waiting, and waiting, for his people to respond? He says when you get that revelation you are going to loathe yourself for your iniquities. But there is no way that the Lord can wait forever and we are not responding so the Lord is going to bring his great and dreadful day upon his people. And we have talked about that.

The sword of the Lord is going to come upon whom? His people and they are going to share the experience of Jesus and it’s going to hurt, it’s going to hurt. But there is no choice except respond. If you respond now it would not have to be done. But we don’t respond, oh sure, we say; yes I surrender myself to the Lord I commit myself to him completely and we go right out and stick our feet in the mud and hang on to the world every way we turn and break those commandments all over the place. It says; Thou shalt not commit murder, you know, don’t kill. Jesus says; watch it, that means that if you hate your brother you are a murderer. And when the sword of the Lord comes upon his people and the differences of opinion show up what stirs up in here?

(John) Anger, resentment.

(Wilfred) You see? How are we going to get rid of sin? How is this going to happen? The Bible is clear; before the coming of that great and dreadful day I’m going to warn you, that’s what He says. I haven’t read you all of it yet but I’m coming to those texts. The people are going to be prepared for the great and dreadful day of the Lord and when that comes upon them things are going to start to happen. And you are either going to go up or you’re going to go down. The mighty shaking will be upon us, and you still have the choice but if you aren’t prepared you’re going to go down. That’s what the Bible says. And Jesus warns us and warns us, “Watch and be ready, for you don’t know when that hour is coming upon you.

Well, let’s look at a few more here to see what this is all about. 

Matthew 17 starting with verse 9 “And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.” Incidentally, that’s good advice for us. I think that we should not tell anybody about some of the deeper things that we think about until we are prepared to do it intelligently or it can do more damage than good. I have said this before and I say it again, the day will come when every last one of you will have an opportunity, maybe more than you want to share the things that you will understand from God’s book, it’s got to be done. But if we move ahead of the angel that’s leading the people we’re in trouble. We’ll have to retrace every step. So, I recommend caution in thinking, I would say again, ponder these things in your heart, study them, check them out, discuss them among yourselves but don’t throw a bomb shell into someone else’s thinking. I am almost doing that myself tonight, I guess. I hope we are going slowly enough that you can follow the reasoning. But it may take a while for it to simmer in and make sense. 10 “And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?” See, the disciples knew that the scribes said this, where did the scribes get it from?

(John) Malachi.


(Wilfred) Malachi, Right. 11 “And Jesus answered and said unto them,” Now watch what Jesus said. “Elias truly shall first come,” And what’s he going to do?

(John) Restore all things.

(Wilfred) Now tell me, what has to be restored?

(John) The Kingdom of God in the heart.

(Wilfred) The Kingdom of God in the heart. Right you are. What did you say?

(Another man in the audience) The Covenant experience...

(Wilfred) The Covenant itself, it has stipulated in it as to what God is going to do to bring that restoration back. The Covenant is the promise of the restoration, read it there in Hebrews. There are four things involved. 12 “But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.” All right? Jesus said; It’s true, Elias is going to come and he is gong to restore all things, that’s his job. Now of course you understand that Elias isn’t going to do that any more than Moses did, whatever Elias is. It’s God that is going to do it.

(A woman in the audience) He was a mouthpiece.

(Wilfred) He is a mouthpiece so to speak. Now He says that Elias has come already and they understood that He spoke of John the Baptist. All right now let’s go on to see what John the Baptist has to say about it. John Chapter 1, We’ll start at verse 19 “And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.

(The end of C/D #30 and the beginning of C/D #31)


21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered. No.” Now, Jesus said he was and John said he wasn’t. Are they contradicting each other?

(A man in the audience) Maybe he didn't realize he was.

(Wilfred) Well, let’s let the Bible explain itself if we can here. Let’s try Luke Chapter 1 verse 15. Here is the angel talking to Elisabeth the mother of John the Baptist. And the angel said; 15 “For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb” So he was a chosen vessel. “16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,” And here he explains it. “And the disobedient to the wisdom of the just;” Turning the hearts of the fathers to the children means turning the disobedient fathers to the wisdom of the just so that their sins and iniquities will not be visited upon their children to the third and fourth generations. Do you see the point? “To make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” Now, what was John the Baptist’s job to be?

(John) To prepare a people.

(Wilfred) To prepare a people for the coming of...?

(John) The Lord.

(Wilfred) Which coming?

(John) The first coming.

(Wilfred) The first coming. Did he come as Elias?

(A man in the audience) In the spirit and power of Elias.

(Wilfred) In the spirit and power of Elias he came to do this job. Did this happen before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

(Many voices in the audience talking)

(Wilfred) Careful. Careful now.

(A man in the audience) Before.

(John) A long time before.

(Wilfred) It’s before, isn’t it? It’s before, but a long time before. Right.

Now let me read from volume 7A of the SDA Bible Commentary, volume 4 page 1184 where Sister White comments about these verses in Malachi. And notice what she says; “In this age, just prior to the second coming of Christ in the clouds of heaven, God calls for men who will prepare a people to stand in the great day of the Lord.” What is God calling for in this age?

(Many voices in the audience)

(Wilfred) People who will prepare a people, He’s calling for men who will prepare a people, and that doesn’t exclude women, to stand in the great day of the Lord. “Just such a work as that which John did, is to be carried on in these last days. The Lord is giving messages to his people, through the instruments He has chosen, and He would have all heed the admonitions and warnings He sends. The message preceding the public ministry of Christ was, Repent, publicans and sinners; repent, Pharisees and Sadducees; “for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Our message is not to be one of peace and safety. As a people who believe in Christ’s soon appearing, we have a definite message to bear, - “Prepare to meet thy God.” Do you see how that there is a parallel message to go today before the second coming of Jesus as John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah to prepare a people for the first coming. Do you see that? So today we can expect messengers, men, in the plural, messengers to present a call to prepare people to stand during the terrible day of the Lord and be ready for the second coming. Do you see that? Now we have always taught as Adventist that the advent message is doing just that, we’ve taught that, and that’s correct, but it’s not correct because it is 75, 80, 90 years behind, it’s not doing it. Do you get my point? We go to church every Sabbath, we go to prayer meeting, we go to young people’s meeting, we do missionary work and all the rest of it and we are still fumbling around and the Lord hasn’t come because the people are not ready, we’ve gone through that. The reason the Lord hasn’t come is because his people are not ready. Not that the Gospel hasn’t gone or couldn’t go, that’s not what it says it says the Gospel is going to go before Jesus comes, right. But it doesn’t say it’s because the Gospel hasn’t gone that Jesus hasn’t come, it says the reason is that his character is not yet perfectly reflected in his people. The Gospel hasn’t done its work in the heart yet and it can’t do its work until we make some decisions. You got it?

Now, somebody is going to bring that to the attention of God’s people and bless your hearts this day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. And there are going to be men just like I am doing the same thing or else the Bible isn’t true and The Spirit of Prophesy isn’t true, have I told the truth? What has been the central theme of the things that we have talked about all down through last winter’s meetings and these meetings? The preparing for the second coming of Jesus Christ, that’s what it’s been and can I throw in a little personal testimony?

It was thirty five years ago that I made a bargain with God and He told me that’s the work He wanted me to do, but I wasn’t ready to do it, and it has taken thirty five years to get me ready, and I am doing it. Thank the Lord. Five years ago I didn’t have the power to do it. Are you willing to join me and become one of these men who will help to prepare a people to stand through the great and dreadful day of the Lord and get ready for his coming? You don’t have to answer me, but if somebody doesn’t do it, Malachi 4:6 says what’s going to happen,

(John) He is going to smite the earth with a curse.

(Wilfred) And what’s going to happen to Jesus?

(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) I don’t want to tell you, but it’s in the books. You’ll find it someday. Jesus is waiting with what kind of desire?

(John) With longing desire.

(Wilfred) And why do you think that is? Why do you think that is? Brothers and Sisters, He loves you with an unutterable love, his heart is in anguish because of your delinquency and mine. And how long are we going to permit him to remain in that predicament? He will not again partake of his former body and blood until He partakes of it anew with you in the Kingdom. Not until your body is prepared a holy temple in the Lord so that the fullness of the Spirit of God can be poured out and become incarnate in you so that He can come and sup with you, so that He can come and dwell in you and become a permanent living temple for the Son of God is He restored. That’s another thing to be restored, the living temple of Christ is to be restored through you and it’s in the Bible, I can read it to you. I’m not teaching false doctrine, I’ve spent many, many, years checking these things, I’ve offered many, many, prayers, many prayers, silently so that the devil wouldn’t know what I was talking about. So that when I got the answer I would know for sure that God gave it to me and not the devil. He’s a wily foe; he just about tripped me up a number of times. Why would he do that? Well, it’s obvious he knew what the Lord wanted me to do and he was going to see to it that it wouldn’t be done. And what the devil hasn’t done to knock me out I couldn’t describe it; only God knows, nobody else in this world knows. And I guess nobody knows what Christ went through either, do they? Not until you share it and the Lord permitted me to share a little bit of what He went through a few years ago and that’s when I decided that I was going to go with him for sure. And that was the hardest decision I ever had to make in my life, the hardest one. We never know exactly what this business of sharing the suffering of Christ means until we hit it. But there is no other way to bring a man to understand the love of God except through it; it’s the only way. How can you understand how your little child is suffering from a wound if you hadn’t had one yourself? How would you know? How can you understand what Jesus is suffering unless He lets you taste it? But you will have your Gethsemane, it won’t last as long as his, nobody could take it, only the Son of God could do it. But He is going to permit us to share it in so far as we are capable and no further. But when we have gone through that mill what does the Bible say we are going to come as?

(John) Refined silver and gold.

(Wilfred) Right, refined and purified silver and gold, holy, righteous. Well this day is right before us Brothers and Sisters, it’s right before us. It can break upon us any day and we are not ready but I hope we are going to get ready, awfully fast.

I’m reading again from the same passage; ”Our message must be as direct as was that of John. He rebuked kings for their iniquity. Notwithstanding the peril his life was in, he never allowed truth to languish on his lips. Our work in this age must be as faithfully done.” I would like to pay just a little tribute to our Pastor on this statement. We’ve had a man with us for the last five years who has not been afraid to rebuke kings and he has taken a lot of dirt for it. He is a real John the Baptist; he is a real Elijah missionary if there ever was one. I know the Lord will honor him, I know that for sure, God always does. But let’s pray for him because his road has not been easy and it probably will not be easy. Any man who is willing to do that type of work is going to suffer persecution.

So let me read on, “In this time of well-nigh universal apostasy, God calls upon His messengers to proclaim His law in the spirit and power of Elias.” Is that clear? ”As John the Baptist, in preparing a people for Christ's first advent, called their attention to the ten commandments, so we are to give, with no uncertain sound, the message: "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come." And I have explained that. His judgment, He is being accused and judged and we are to be his witnesses to exonerate him and prove him innocent. “With the earnestness that characterized Elijah the prophet and John the Baptist, we are to strive to prepare the way for Christ's second advent.” Notice the word ‘strive’ there will be resistances attached to it, but we strive to do it.

Matthew 11:12. Listen to what Jesus says here, this was on a different occasion, 12 “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Whose principle is that? Who’s principle of government? Satan’s. What is the principle of God’s law? Self-renouncing love and voluntary allegiance. 13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. 15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” Now do you notice here that Jesus said; If you will receive it this is Elias. Do you remember I showed you that statement that said; That everything Jesus says has a deeper meaning, remember that? Now, this has a deeper meaning and I think you can see it, can’t you? He was not the only one that came in the spirit and power of Elias or is to come in the spirit and power of Elias. Before the second coming of Jesus there is to be a renewed work of John the Baptist in the spirit and power of Elias. I read that to you. And we are just before the great and dreadful day of the Lord NOW. So we need to be prepared for this thing to be happening NOW. Right? And we have the privilege of being one of those witnesses and when enough people are willing to accept that challenge and do it then God can finish his work of purifying his people, close probation, lay down his priestly robes go through the demonstration and then come and take them and we can hasten or delay the coming of the Lord. That’s what she says and that’s what the Bible says.

(John) Verse 15 “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” That same verse is repeated over and over again in Revelation Chapter
3 addressing the over-comers.

(Wilfred) Yes, that’s right. It is an indication that some people will hear and not understand but it is an invitation to hear and to understand, but you cannot understand any of God’s books without the Spirit.

(A man in the audience) If you are listening for it you can hear it.

(Wilfred) If you fulfill the conditions you will receive the Spirit. And the major condition is what?

(John) Surrender.

(Wilfred) Yes, and that means?

(Same man in the audience) Obedience.

(Wilfred) That’s right, obedience. Obedience, that’s what it means. We can’t do it one hundred percent but we do it as children the best we can and then He can add his Spirit which in turn gives power to obey. And it builds up and you grow up into the fullness of the stature of Christ. But we haven’t much time left some of us are going to have to grow up awfully fast and she says that, She says that there will be those who come in just before the end who will have to get ready very fast, and they will do it if they are willing. 

Well, it’s just interesting now to look at some more passages, Matthew Chapter 3 verses 1 through 3. Notice what John came preaching; 1 “In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of JudŠa, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” What kingdom is he talking about?

(A man in the audience) In the heart.

(Wilfred) The kingdom within you, Jesus said it doesn’t come with observation but the kingdom of God is within you. Now look across to chapter 4 verse 17, what did Jesus come preaching?

(John) The same thing.

(Wilfred) The same thing. “Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” What are we preaching here?

(John) The same thing.

(Wilfred) The same thing.

Now, I don’t want to overburden you in one night so I think maybe I should leave the rest of this, there isn’t a great deal more. Something about the message, I’ve got some references on that. Well, maybe five minutes would do it, would you like to take that time while we are on it? I don’t need to go over the passages about the restoration of the temple, do I? I think we have gone over that before and back in history we had the same thing. Remember when the Israelites and the Jews where taken into captivity and then the decree went forth for them to return to come out of Babylon and go back and rebuild the temple? But look, the same thing holds true today. God’s people are in captivity to Satan and sin.

(John) In Babylon.

(Wilfred) In Babylon. In confusion and the call is, Come out of Babylon. This is a personal experience not just a church experience, a personal experience, come out of Babylon. Return to Jerusalem, rebuild the temple, do you get it? She says there that while the judgment is taking place in heaven and the sanctuary is being cleansed there is a parallel work to go on in the earth, we are to be putting away sin. On the Day of Atonement the Israelites had to put away sin, afflict their souls, that’s what we are to be doing, putting away sin.

Well let me read Selective Messages volume 1 page 395. “He hath taken away the curse from all those who believe in Him as a personal Saviour.” You are no longer cursed, you are no longer guilty you are free. “He makes an end of the controlling power of sin in the heart,” Now, He makes an end of that and if you are still sinning there is something wrong with your decisions.

(John) You are deciding against your heart.

(Wilfred) “And the life and character of the believer testify to the genuine character of the grace of Christ.” I wish it were true in every life. “To those that ask Him, Jesus imparts the Holy Spirit;” Ask and you shall receive, seek and ye shall find. If a son ask of his father bread will he give him a stone? If he ask of him a fish will he give him a scorpion? I guess I got them twisted but it ready doesn’t matter. How much more,” it goes on to say, “will our heavenly Father give the Spirit to those who ask?” So maybe we are not asking or if we are asking we are asking amiss as the Bible says to consume it upon our own lusts. What is our motive in asking for the Spirit, so we can show off to somebody? So we can brag, I have overcome my appetite, see? Why don’t you overcome yours, it’s easy. Maybe there is something wrong with the heart. “For it is necessary that every believer should be delivered from pollution, as well as from the curse and condemnation of the law.” Did you get that? It is necessary that every believer should be delivered from what? Pollution, as well as from the curse and condemnation of the law. Do you see the two aspects of righteousness there? Being delivered from the curse and condemnation is what kind?

(John) Imputed righteousness.

(Wilfred) Imputed righteousness. Being delivered from the pollution is what kind?

(John) Imparted.

(Wilfred) Imparted. Right, good for you. “Through the work of the Holy Spirit, the sanctification of the truth, the believer becomes fitted for the courts of heaven; for Christ works within us, and His righteousness is upon us.” I’ve got literature at home almost by the bushel, some of it from off-shoot Adventists but sad to say some of it from good, well recognized respected Adventist ministers which say that Christ doesn’t work within us He works outside of us and the only important thing is what Christ has done for us is outside us at Calvary, that’s all we have to stand on. Well, I agree with that but that is only half of the picture. That’s only half of the picture, the goal of salvation is salvation from sin, not salvation from the curse and the penalty that comes first. You are first relieved from the penalty of sin so that you are free to obey from a motive of love rather from a motive of fear. Can’t you see? “Without this no soul will be entitled to heaven. We would not enjoy heaven unless qualified for its holy atmosphere” Now there she’s got the two things again. We get our title to heaven, she says in another place by imputed righteousness and our fitness for heaven by imparted. And she talks here about we would not have our title to heaven nor would we be qualified for its holy atmosphere, “By the influence of the Spirit and the righteousness of Christ.” I won’t read any more of that.

One more, and this I think sums it up. Page 412 in Selective Messages volume 1. “We should come into a position where every difference will be melted away.” See the brotherly love there? “If I think I have light, I shall do my duty in presenting it.” She is talking about herself. “Suppose I consulted others concerning the message the Lord would have me give to the people, the door might be closed so that the light might not reach the ones to whom God had sent it.” Do you see here that she recognizes that God has given her a special commission and that there are those standing in her way and she feels that she is not obligated to consult them, she has a right to go ahead and tell the people what the Lord has shown her. Do you see that? That’s what she is saying. She also says that God will do that from time to time. He will call a special messenger to bring a message to the people and if He were to wait and consult with all the elderly brethren it would never reach the people and she is telling the truth. But there is only one condition and that is a special commission of God. Now, every person who is willing to proclaim the Elijah message has a special commission from God because it is the message for the hour before the great and dreadful day of the Lord. It is a commission that is given to everyone and you need not apologize to anybody for giving it, it’s God’s message and you are to give it. All right? “When Jesus rode into Jerusalem, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen; saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out" Do you know what’s going to happen if you refuse? God is going to raise up children to do it. He’ll raise up children to do it.

Now, listen to this; “The Jews tried to stop the proclamation of the message that had been predicted in the Word of God; but prophecy must be fulfilled. The Lord says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord". Somebody is to come in the spirit and power of Elijah, and when he appears, men may say, "You are too earnest, you do not interpret the Scriptures in the proper way. Let me tell you how to teach your message." Now that’s what you better be prepared for if you teach the Elijah message. There it is in black and white. Somebody is to come in the spirit and power of Elijah and when he comes men may say, and they will, there is no doubt about it, You are too earnest, you do not interpret the Scriptures in the proper way. Let me tell you how to teach your message, better do it a little more tactfully, don’t be quite so hard on them. That isn’t quite right we’ve always believed it this way. That’s all it means it just means this and nothing more. Remember the statement? Now you’ve got to be prepared for it, that’s what we have been trying to do, is to prepare a people to stand in the day of the Lord. Do you get the point?

“There are many who cannot distinguish between the work of God and that of man. I shall tell the truth as God gives it to me, and I say now, If you continue to find fault, to have a spirit of variance, you will never know the truth. That is Sister White talking. Jesus said to his disciples, "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now" They were not in a condition to appreciate sacred and eternal things;” And I want to tell you there are many of our people in our church today who are not prepared to hear the things you are hearing here tonight and that’s the reason I’m asking you to keep it in your own heart until you are ready. Do you get it, does it make sense? “But Jesus promised to send the Comforter, who would teach them all things, and bring all things to their remembrance, whatsoever He had said unto them. Brethren, we must not put our dependence in man. "Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?" You must hang your helpless souls upon Jesus. It does not become us to drink from the fountain of the valley, when there is a fountain in the mountain. Let us leave the lower streams; let us come to the higher springs. If there is a point of truth that you do not understand, upon which you do not agree, investigate, compare scripture with scripture, sink the shaft of truth down deep into the mine of God's Word. You must lay yourselves and your opinions on the altar of God, put away your preconceived ideas, and let the Spirit of Heaven guide you into all truth.” Well there is a lot more but that is all I’m going to read tonight.

I trust that the spirit of God will help you to be open minded and receptive to the profound truths which He has in his book waiting for whoever is willing to receive them so that they will be able to relate to the experiences that are coming their way during this great and dreadful day. So that they will be able to triumph and be victorious and vindicate the justice of God’s law and that He can come and clean house. And that is the appeal that I give you. Don’t get all disturbed and upset about it but stay close to God, remember that you can pray to him silently and the devil doesn’t know what you are talking about so you can have a private communication line with God if you pray silently. And God can respond to you and you’ll see it happening in your circumstances and you’ll see it happening in your life and you’ll know that He is teaching. If you are willing to follow on and surrender step-by-step, day-by-day, it won’t take long and the Lord will have this thing finished and it can’t be too soon to suit me. But I’m afraid that there are too many people who don’t want it to happen so soon. They are enjoying things too well as it is and they figure that it should last a little longer yet so they can have a little more fun because they know good and well that they are doing things they should not do and they cannot continue to do those if they are going to go to heaven, so they want the Lord to prolong probation a bit. I would like to look at a few more of these funny TV programs, I would like to be able eat a little more of the stuff I know is no good for me. I’d like freedom to enjoy the trivialities of life and I’ll study the Lord’s word next year after I’m out of college. On the other side of the coin let’s not get fanatical, ridiculous, study all night and be half dead all day and flunk our exams or whatever, or put salt in cake instead of sugar. Do you understand? Let’s be discreet; let’s be temperate in all things. But when we have a spare minute let’s use it. And if we don’t have spare minutes let’s look at our program. Now I could quit reading this, it’s not really important anyway, maybe the sports page of the newspaper, I don’t know, it bothers some people but it never bothered me. I like to read a few comics once in a while because I have a yen for frivolity and light heartedness. Well, I work with young people and kids for forty years and you have to be on their level once in a while in order to reach them so it has become a part of me just to have a little fun once in a while. But I don’t have to read that stuff you see? Why don’t I read something worthwhile? I have no excuse, have you? And we are all going to go together, I’m not ahead of you, I’m probably behind you.

God can use anybody who is willing, I made a commitment to God, I said God if you can help me understand this book the way I understand my science books so that I can say honestly I am an Adventist I believe our message, because I couldn’t say that, there were things I didn’t believe like the creation, six days, no way who could believe in the six day creation with all the scientific evidence to the contrary. In my day we didn’t have all this creationist evidence that we’ve got today. Mrs. White, a prophet? A prophet, who could ever believe that stuff? It contradicts itself wherever you look. Miracles of Christ? Nobody could believe in those things. Who has ever seen a miracle? In my day they were as scarce as hen’s teeth, I’ve never seen one when I was younger. So, I asked the Lord for help, I didn’t want to leave the church but I knew I was a hypocrite I was professing by being an Adventist something I really wasn’t and it wasn’t that I didn’t want to be, I wanted to be an Adventist. I had more fellowship and understanding of the Word in the Adventist church than I had anywhere else. But I still didn’t have it and how can I go out and tell somebody else “Believe in the Lord and you are going to be saved” and they ask me two or three questions I can’t answer. How can I be a witness, I’m not even saved myself? So, I bargained with God, I don’t do that normally but I did. I said; If you answer my prayer Lord, show me what’s in this book so I can understand it and I’ll do anything you ask me to do. And that was a mouth full. And I told him, don’t send me to Africa as a missionary and He didn’t. But I am telling you, that book began to unfold just like a Chinese firecracker, it just exploded. Day after day things opened up, just tremendous, I could write a book on it. And when I began to tell some people about that they told me I was going crazy, and I lived under that stigma for years and I am not sure I am clear of it yet. But I went to God because nobody else could answer my questions. I ask him; well what about this? What about this? No answer. You’re not supposed to look into that, it’s not revealed, and that is as far as I got with that. So I went back to God and I asked God for certain things to prove to me that He was my teacher and not the devil. And the Lord did some amazing things, but I won’t go into that tonight. He convinced me that He was my teacher and I said; Ok, I’ll stick with you through thick and thin and it was mostly thick. And He has continued to expand that book until the panorama of salvation is clear as a bell. I’m not very good at expressing it and it is so big and interrelated and complex that to get the total picture requires going up and down streets, you know, different directions, from all different directions you’ve got to go up and down until finally you get all those pieces and you’ve got to come back and take a look at it and you suddenly see the picture, that’s about the way it is.

Well, the Lord did that for me and as He was doing it and I recognized that I was understanding some things that I couldn’t find anybody else that could go along with it for a while. I can’t say that today, things I tried to show many years back are being taught today in our Sabbath School Quarterlies and that is an amazing thing, that’s amazing. Our denomination is not static, it’s progressive. We’ve got men in our denomination who have a vision and I am thankful for that, but we have some dead wood too.

But now, I asked the Lord, Well, what about it? Why are you doing this? All I want is just enough so I can say I’m an honest Adventist, that’s all I need. Then the Lord made it very plain to me what this Elijah message is all about and I got it, I saw it, and He says; That’s what I want you to do. Now you say; Johnson, the Lord doesn’t talk like that. Well I can read it to you straight out of the books that he does. She says that if we wait upon the Lord He will show us what work we are to do. And in another place she says what work we are best suited to do. She says that and when I saw that I knew I was no more prepared to do that type of work than the man in the moon, for more reasons than one. But I won’t go into that either. And it was a pretty long grueling ordeal for over thirty years until finally one day I went back to God and I said; All right Lord, what about this? I said; I’m getting no place fast and unless you do something for me I’m going to lose my way, I just can’t hang on to this, it’s just too heavy, I can’t hang on to this, and take this particular predicament and misunderstanding and you name it. How long do I have to wait? And again, I can’t go into all this. It was just a few weeks after that that the Lord opened the door and the things that He had shown me many years ago as to how He wanted me to start, where it would start, under what conditions, and that it would not be initiated by me, those things all came to pass within a few weeks and I have been going it ever since. And one of these days I won’t be here but you’ll be here.

(John) We are happy that you have made these contributions.

(Wilfred) Thank you. It has only been within the last very few years that I have been able to speak to more than just very very close friends. But I leveled with the conference, I leveled with the G.C., I’ve leveled with all our church Pastors in the last few years and I have not been, I hope, dishonest.

But God’s people have not been ready, they have not been ready, and many of them are not ready yet. I hope that you are here under the influence and guidance of the Spirit of God and that you are ready. God doesn’t expect the impossible, but if you are willing He’ll do it.

Well, may the Lord add his blessing to what I have said and I trust that He will deal kindly with us, we’re but human flesh and we aren’t able to take much of the gaff. Physically, I don’t have very much; I am very vulnerable I do not have very much physical strength. And the Lord has performed miracle after miracle for me down through the years including what I am doing now. Five years ago I could never have done it, never, I would have been in the hospital. Now that’s the way the Lord works, if you trust him. If you trust him there is nothing the Lord asks you to do but what He'll provide the power to do it, but you may have to be patient it can’t be done overnight sometimes. Moses had to wait forty years and then he didn’t want to go. Well, I had a similar experience only I waited thirty and as I said it was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. I wanted to fulfill my commitment to God, the Bible says, better not to make a vow at all than to make one and not fulfill it, and I went right out on a limb and said; Ok, Lord you’ll have to step in there is just no way and He did and I thank him for it. And if this is the last chance I get to talk to you people, I hope it isn’t but God knows, I hope that you will remember the things that have been said. The tapes are available or will be in due time. Everything that we have discussed of any major importance is on tape someplace. There is some written material I had hoped to get something very tangible done on that but I am getting so tied up with meetings and other things, I’m being requested to do many things and I try to fit into them but I don’t know how I’m going to manage it all. I have physical limitations as I have told you. I’ll do the best I can to fulfill all these obligations and if the Lord permits me I will crystallize this on paper in a manner that it could be duplicated and used. At the present time what I have is not in the condition to be utilized publicly. I mean the people who are supposed to have copies have copies and it is in storage and some people are going to be very annoyed when they realize that I’m sharing what I have received from God in a larger group than I have here before done. The number of people who know and understand the things that I have been sharing with you, and there is quite a bit more than what I have shared, are few and far between.

But the shaking is coming upon God’s people, we’ve talked about it, see? And it is coming and we have shown what it is that is going to bring the shaking. Do you remember it? (At this point there is heard a loud click as one of the tape recorders clicked off) Oh, I’ve gone way beyond and I should quite, but you have got to get this. What is it that causes the shaking? Early Writings, page 270 “...The counsel of the True Witness to the Laodiceans.” The true witness to the Laodiceans is Jesus, so the testimony of the true witness is the testimony of Jesus. But the testimony of Jesus is what?

(A man in the audience) The Spirit of Prophecy.

(Wilfred) The Spirit of Prophecy is going to unfold from the Word of God, The Spirit of Prophecy is going to unfold new truth, and I have given you all the statements on that, they’re all on the tapes. And this is the sword of the Lord which comes out of his mouth. You find that in Revelation, and He is going to spew his Laodicean people out of his mouth because they are lukewarm. Now, they are not in his mouth, it’s the sword that’s in his mouth, so He is going to spew them with the sword out of his mouth, don’t you see? And the sword is polished and furbished, Ezekiel, so that it will reflect more light and it will cut deeper. This is what we have to be prepared for in this great and dreadful day because the day of Joel Chapter 2 in which the Spirit is going to be poured out and there will be those who see visions and prophesy is right upon us and unless we are in tune with God we are going to be mixed up with the devils counterfeits and there are plenty of them.

So the shaking is going to be centered around the revelation of new truth, do you see that? “Some will not bear this straight testimony. They will rise up against it and this is what will cause a shaking among God's people.” She says it in Early Writings. And she talks about how the Lord has a special message for each generation and in an emergency and that He will call forth special messengers to bring it, she says that. And she says at first its advocates will be few and they will be persecuted and ridiculed by men who should know better. That’s what she says. Have you read these things? You know, the whole problem with us Brothers and Sisters is that we are so wrapped up in the program that we aren’t doing the studying. You talk to the average minister, Brother Farraq is an exception, but you talk to the average minister, how much time is he spending digging in the books? How much does he understand about what’s in there? He sees a statement and preaches a sermon on it and it’s all wrong because he forgot some other statements that go along with it that modified it and other things, see? We’ve got to have a broad knowledge of The Spirit of Prophecy and the Bible and get these pieces to fit together, not helter-skelter, a bit here and a bit there, that’s the way you get a bit here and a bit there but it’s got to come together. The Spirit is going to guide us into all truth.

I’m going to have to close off. I apologize for being so long winded but this is one of the most important messages that I have brought to you. I have one more that is so difficult that I think I’m going to delay it, it is available and will be available in due time but I don’t want anyone to get spiritual indigestion and go down with an illness and be so disturbed they lose their faith. We have to grow slowly and we mustn’t eat food that is too far advanced for the development for our stomachs. Now if you feed babies solid food too soon they have trouble, you have to give them just what they can handle. And some of these truths depend on other things but....

(A man in the audience) So you have been giving us the milk of the word?

(Wilfred) I’ve been coming in pretty fast, a little faster that my discretion would tell me to but I have been following the council of the Lord. I didn’t realize that He was going to have me do this, but I told him I was willing whenever He was ready to go and so I have been doing it.

(John) Can we have a meeting next week brother?

(Wilfred) Well I would think so, I mean I could plan on it. But I don’t know from one day to the next what the Lord has in store from here on in because, oh that’s another story. But I’m willing at any time, whatever the Lord wants, if He wants to take me tonight that’s fine, if He wants me to stay here for another ten years that’s fine, if He wants me to stay here another fifty years I’ll stay here even though I’ll get gray hair and I’ve got quite a bit of it now. But you know don’t you that she says; that the devil will have six thousand years? I’ve got quit a few statements on this that the period of this demonstration is going to end by the end of this century, no doubt about it. Now listen, there I go again,

(Much laughter from the audience)

(Wilfred) We do not know the day and hour of Jesus’ coming. But again, read the statements for what they say, don’t speculate. It does not say that nobody will know the year or the month and that is significant, that’s significant, nobody knows the day and the hour not even Jesus. He didn’t, but maybe He does now. But it does not say that nobody knows the year or the month. And you can’t identify the coming of the Lord until you have all four of those, you’ve got to have the year, the month, the day, and the hour, nobody knows the day and the hour. But that’s going to be announced before Jesus comes. But she doesn’t say anything about the year and the month, but the Bible does, the Bible does,

(A man in the audience) And are you going to give us that date next Wednesday night?

(Much laughter in the audience)

(Wilfred) I haven’t planned to give you that one yet there are some things about it I don’t understand. Go back to Daniel there is some figures in there and there is some figures in Revelation.

(A man in the audience) I thought prophetic time ended in 1844?

(Wilfred) It did and there will be no future message based on time, so nobody knows the day and the hour. I am not professing to know the day and the hour of Jesus’ coming. I’ll tell you frankly.

(A man in the audience) We’ll sharpen the sword next week and divide the bone from the marrow.

(Wilfred) I’m not professing to know this and if I did know it I wouldn’t divulge it unless the Lord gave me specific instructions to do it. But I have some very, very, close ideas. The signs are quite distinct, doesn’t He say that when you see the fig tree, you know, blossoming forth. What’s going to happen pretty soon?

(A man in the audience) Summer is coming.

(Wilfred) Yes, it’s coming pretty soon. When you see the grain ripening up, the harvest is near.

(John) When you see all these things know that it is near, even at the doors.

(Wilfred) And it is, believe me it is and that’s why I’m so concerned that you get ready because that dreadful day is going to knock you for a loop if you don’t get ready, it will just knock you. Get close to God, get into his Word, get on your knees, live moment by moment as in the presence of God. Be ready at any moment for a conflict with the evil one. She tells us that, she warned us, any moment you will be plunged into something you never realized. Be ready; be prepared so it won’t throw you.
 
(A man in the audience) In Early Writings page 58 she says; “Live and act wholly in reference to the coming of the Son of man.”

(Wilfred) We aren’t doing it. We are not doing it. Well my apologies again. We’d better dismiss.

(John) Brother Johnson before we do. I think I speak for all of us, we love you and we so appreciate you spending so much time in study and preparation and coming here to share these things with us, I appreciate it from the Lord and from you and I am sure that I speak for each one of us.

(Wilfred) May I just say one word in rebuttal; my studying originally was not the means whereby I received these things. The Lord flashed these things into my consciousness in two or three seconds, sometimes the thing that I saw was so extensive that it took me up to four hours just to sketch it out on paper, but it all came in three or four seconds. It just came and then went, was gone, and I knew nothing of what I had seen but I knew I had seen it and I knew the implications of it. At some later time at my ease as I studied through the books, I would come across a statement, Oh there, that is exactly what I saw, and statement by statement I would come across to verify and the whole thing would come back, see? So it is no credit of mine. I appreciate your thanks but they're not due me, the only thing I have done is I have tried to be faithful to God and do what he asked me to do. And believe me I studied the books, but I studied them so I could bring to you the evidences of what I am saying.

She tells us that if anyone comes purporting to present new truth let him speak a plain “Thus saith the Lord”. Now I don’t know if there can be anything plainer than some of these statements. What’s the one we just read in Malachi? 4:5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord” What can be plainer than that? Can you find anything in the Bible plainer than that? There are some other ones in there that are even more significant. Now I know there are some questions in your minds, well, how could this be? I haven’t time tonight to go into it but it’s in there, it’s in the book. And there are other things in that Bible, there’s another one I’d just love to share with you but I know we are just not ready for it yet. I don’t want to go too fast. So I appreciate your thanks.

But some of you people are going to have similar experiences, God is going to reveal to you points of truth that you have never seen before and you are going to find them in the books. He can do it in either order, you can find them in the books and as you read they will snap into your mind. I have had that hundreds of time. I have read hundreds of texts in the Bible and passages in The Spirit of Prophecy which I have read before but never saw what they meant then all of a sudden as I read then, oh, I see that, and it all fits. You know what I mean? Any of you had those experiences? I’m sure you must have. And it can work the other way. The Lord can flash into your consciousness, in a moment of time, more than you can get by studying for hours. I know that, she says that and He can do it and He’s done it for me, I’ve had the experience many times. Well, I hope my testimony will do something towards helping you get prepared for the coming of Jesus. He may take you tonight, He may take you next week, He may leave you right here right through to the end, I don’t know. But he wants a hundred and forty four thousand people who are willing to go through to the end. And it won’t be icing, the cake may be burnt a little on the bottom.

How many times have I apologized tonight?

(Much laughter)

(The end of C/D #31 and the beginning of C/D #32)


(Wilfred) Last week we studied concerning The Two Witness’s of Revelation Chapter 11 and discovered that they stand for the Old and New Testaments we find that in The Spirit of prophecy, I didn’t bring the references tonight, I don’t intend to go over that all again although I really should for the benefit of those who haven’t been here before, you’re liable to get a distorted concept but we’ll just have to take that chance, and I would recommend that you just hold in abeyance any problem or questions that might arise in your thinking as a result of our reviewing so quickly, it’s impossible for me to move on without a certain amount of background here to make any sense of it.

Sister White also brings out that these two witnesses are the Old and the New Testaments. The word Testament and Covenant are interchangeable with reference to these things so we could also say the Old and New Covenants. You will notice that the Old Testament deals primarily with the delivering of the Covenant to ancient Israel and their relationship to it right on down through to Malachi. And that the New Testament again refers to the Covenant but on the other side of the cross where the true sacrifice has been offered and the terms of the New Covenant as given in Hebrews become more directly effective.

We also discovered that there are two people who stand before the God of the earth. In Revelation 11 it says that these are the two witnesses that stand before the God of the earth. Taking that queue we found that there are two people who have been called to stand before the God of the earth and after they had preformed their service they were taken to heaven. They were both called to Horeb the mount of God, Moses was the first one and he met with the literal Christ and saw him physically. He received the Covenant, the ten commandments, on two tables of stone written by the finger of God, literally, and he delivered them to God’s literal people, ancient Israel. It is interesting to note that he was in the mountain forty days and forty nights without food or drink and he did this on two occasions. It is interesting that when he brought the Covenant down the people had agreed even before he went up to receive it, the people had agreed to do anything that the Lord asked them to do without any thought as to what the requirements might be. They were willing to take it in blanket form, this represents the idea of self-righteousness attempting to keep God’s law because we decided to do it and of course it didn’t work and in making this agreement the people entered into their own covenant with God which is known as the Old Covenant and they broke it within forty days and they continued to break it on down through the Old Testament. But God instituted the sacrificial service to try to teach those people that it was impossible for them to keep the law on their own, that there had to be a shedding of blood to make available a power whereby it could be kept. And that enters into the sacrifice of Christ which we have also gone through and I really haven’t time to go over that intelligently. Let me simply say this without any references that the sacrifice of Christ involved the relinquishing of his eternal life, his Spirit of eternal life and his former body in which He had existed, the one that Moses saw partly. Before He came to this world, in the heavenly sanctuary He voluntarily laid down his eternal life. Even as Adam received the breath of God, the breath of life, the breath of the Spirit which made him a living being. Jesus said; As the Father has life in himself so hath He given the son to have life in himself. That is the Father had granted the Son eternal life in himself and He has had it from time in memorial. Since we don’t understand what eternity is it is impossible for us to define the beginning of that situation. But the fact that He had life in himself still remains and when God gave him this, God never gives a gift to take it back again, it is permanently the Son's possession. But He voluntarily laid it down in the heavenly sanctuary so that He could take on himself the form of a human being and become a mortal, without mortality He could not die. Sister White brings all this out. He could not become a mortal being without relinquishing that body and that blood; He shed his great eternal blood. Now I can’t describe what that was, the Bible simply calls it that and the Bible tells us that the blood is the symbol of the life, the life is in the blood that the shedding of blood means the shedding of life. This sacrifice was all part of the Everlasting Covenant or New Covenant which Christ composed and agreed to with his Father, it constitutes the last will and testament of Christ. Before a man dies if he has an estate he makes out a will, a last will and testament stipulating what he wishes to have done with his possessions. Christ had eternal life in himself, that was the greatest gift that He had, besides all that Sister White tells us that He had the total universe placed under his care and possession and that the Father had gathered up all the treasures of the universe and given them into the hand of the Son for the purpose of using them to reveal to man the tremendous love that God has for him and that there is no love greater than the love of God for his people. That was the purpose of God gathering all these treasures and turning them over to Christ.

Now, the devil had challenged God with respect to his law, that God himself would not keep his law, he requires his creatures to do it but himself He would not or could not. Now the basic law of God is self-renunciation, it is the principle of love that reaches out to others that renounces self in the interest of others, that is the basic character of God. Today it doesn’t look like it, the devil has got it all twisted around. He has misrepresented the character of God and before the end comes that misrepresentation is to be cleared up. There is to be an unsurpassed revelation of the true character of God’s love to the world and that constitutes the last message of mercy, Sister White tells us.

So the devil had challenged God concerning his law and in the Everlasting Covenant Christ proved that He kept his Father’s commandments and the Father proved that He kept his own commandments and they did it in this way; the Son gave everything He had, in the Everlasting Covenant He stipulated that the life He was laying down, his eternal life in himself, was to be given to the saints so they could have eternal life. His body was to be broken and He taught his disciples this in the last supper, the last object lessen that He taught them. His body was to be broken and divided for them to assimilate. Now again, I cannot describe the chemistry of the body of the original Christ nor can I describe how that body becomes a constituent part of the human flesh of God’s people. I can simply say that’s what the Bible says, that’s what Jesus said, and that is what The Spirit of Prophecy bears out. Many people have not seen it but it is there as plain as can be. When Jesus came to this world He did not bring with him that body, this was part of the heritage that He laid down. And thirdly He stipulated that the treasures of the universe were to be shared by his people. This is all in the Everlasting Covenant, his last will and testament. And the Father agreed to do this, the Father agreed to give the best thing He could give, He couldn’t give his life, if He did there would be no universe, but He gave the next best thing to it, He gave his Son. And He had previously given into the hand of the Son all the treasures of the universe, what was there left? What did the Son give? Everything he had. What was there left? So they both demonstrated the law of God. There is so much in here I could spend the whole evening just reviewing and I’m getting wound up... I don’t want any misunderstanding, I’m so sensitive to this because I’ve had misunderstanding in the pass because of incomplete knowledge and don’t like to see that happen again.

Now this sacrifice that Christ made in the heavenly sanctuary constituted the first death, which He died, the death of sleep. He was totally unconscious when He was in Mary’s womb; there was no conscious Christ as such. And He rose into physical life just as you and I rise into it and become conscious and become aware of ourselves and He became aware of who He was through the education of his mother, she knew, through the influence of the Spirit and when He was twelve years of age and He went to the temple in Jerusalem and saw the sacrificial offerings and ceremonies, it was at that time that He caught a glimpse of the fact that He was the sacrifice, that this was the part He was to play in this great drama of salvation. Not until his anointing at his baptism eighteen years later did He become the Messiah as such. And He entered upon his ministry but not before He had been tested. The character that He had developed in his humanity had to be tested and his original character of righteousness, his divine character which was also a part of him because He was a dual, He was a combination of divinity and humanity, these things had to be tested and He was forty days in the wilderness and the greatest thing He had to face up to was the knowledge that he was the son of God, that his former heritage belonged to him and at a decision of his will, at a flick of his thought He could tap into it and possess it. He could return at any moment to his heavenly situation and be reinstated as He existed before He came into this world. This was his greatest temptation and the devil tackled him on this in three different ways but he did not budge, He realized that there was no way that the universe could be saved and specifically man, and through man the rest of the universe unless He made that complete sacrifice. So He completely emptied himself and depended entirely on God for everything that He did during his life here on earth. He used in his own behalf no power that was not given to him by God and that is not freely available to us. These things I’ve taken out of The Spirit of Prophecy and if any of you doubt them the evidences can be found for you.

When He reached Gethsemane He had to make the final decision, in fact at the last supper He taught his disciples his final lesson which involved that final decision, he made the decision to die the second death on the cross. Now the second death is the death of the sinner she tells us from which there is no hope of a resurrection that is why He had his bitter cup in Gethsemane, this was the difficult thing. Yes He didn’t want to face up to the abuse he would receive, here was the Divine King facing the abuse of these sinners, nobody likes to face up to that, but many people have faced up to that type of thing, many people have been tortured, many people have been crucified, many people have been hung, the real pain that Jesus went through was inside. Sister White tells us that the cross of Calvary was a revelation to our dull senses of the pain that entered into the heart of God at the inception of sin. We see the outward cross, we see the outward pain but that’s the only way He can show us what was going on inside and that’s why the cross is there so that we could look up at it and see it, what a horrible thing but it was the inner pain that really counted. The death that He died there on the cross was the second death, the eternal death and there was no hope of a resurrection from that death. Now, immediately the question arises; how come Jesus told his disciples that within three days He would arise from the dead? How come one of his apostles said; For the joy that was set before him He endured the cross? How does this fit into the picture? Well, you have to remember that there was a duality with reference to Christ. The divine part of him could not die only the human part could die, but death also means a separation and when He hung on the cross the real death was what He experienced when He lost connection with that divine power that had sustained him throughout his ministry and He cried out; My God, my God, why hath thou forsaken me? And when He looked into the future He saw nothing but eternal annihilation, that was the penalty of sin and He was bearing the penalty not just of my sin and yours but the whole world and there was no hope of him ever being raised from the dead, all hope of being raised from the dead vanished, He realized that He was dying, the only thing that sustained him we’re told was the habit of trusting his Father, it was a habit, and it is the very habit we need to develop. He understood that his Father was not only a God of justice but He was a God of mercy. And it was only through the mercy of God that He was raised form the dead. Justice would demand an eternal death but once you’ve died the eternal death and you are unconscious what are the odds whether you are dead for a year or a billion years or a billion billion years? You would never know the difference. So, God raised him from the dead, the Bible says in several places, even though The Spirit of Prophecy says that He came forth from the tomb to a life that was his and also by a power that was inherent in himself. Some people find that difficult to understand, and in just a moment I’ll deal with that. When He came forth from the tomb He came forth as Jesus of Nazareth because he told his disciples at the last supper that He was not again to partake of that until He partook of it anew with them in the Kingdom. According to the Covenant, that body and that blood was to be bestowed on his saints and not until they had attained to the measure of the fullness of the stature of Christ could the fullness of the out-pouring of that gift be bestowed upon them and incidentally ALL the gifts of God to his people come through the agency of the Holy Spirit. Not until the final out-pouring of the Holy Spirit in the latter rain could come upon God’s people would the restoration of the body of Christ be completed.


Now, I am opening up a whole new vista of truth here. In the New Testament you’ll find that the body of Christ is his church each one is a member in particular and that this body is built up an habitation of God through the Spirit. You’ll find that in Ephesians. Your body is to be a temple of the Holy Ghost, as a matter of fact that former body of Christ in which He lived as a single individual is divided and given to the saints. And they collectively make up the body of Christ and Jesus is the head of that body. He talks about the marriage, He says that the husband is the head of the wife, you’ll find this in Ephesians, the husband is the head of the wife. The wife is a symbol of the church, the body and He says; They twain shall become one flesh, do you recall? And Paul recognizes that this is a problem he says; This is a great mystery but I speak to you concerning Christ and his church. There is to be a marriage union between Christ, the groom, and his church the bride. That’s just a whole area of truth I’ll just have to skip it. You’ll just have to take it as it is and those of you who have been good students of the Bible know that I am speaking the truth. That marriage union is going to take place NOW before probation closes, it is taking place NOW, the union is being formulated NOW, the latter rain is beginning to come to God’s people NOW, and when the thing is completed that marriage will be consummated and there will be a hundred and forty four thousand human temples connected with Jesus the Head and that body is now restored, that temple is now rebuilt as Jesus said; Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up. That not only applied to his physical body at Calvary that applies to his spiritual body which He relinquished in the midst of the week of seven thousand years, not in the midst of the week of seven years. It was approximately 400 to 500 years before He showed up in Bethlehem right after the last prophecy, right after the last promise and council He gave to Malachi in the last three verses in the Old Testament. From then on there was silence until the New Testament.

In the third thousand years, on the third day, that body is to be restored and that’s now, and you will find it in Early Writings if you are doubtful. She tells us plainly that the marriage is consummated before probation closes and the subjects of the Kingdom are made up. The Kingdom is restored, the kingdom is given into the hands of Jesus and the saints, it’s shared, we become joint heirs with Christ. Not only of the physical possessions but of the very life of Christ and all the attributes of the body of Christ. Do you get the point? Now, that’s all part of the Everlasting Covenant.

Christ called two human witnesses up to heaven, they both were called to the mount of Horeb, they both fasted forty days and forty nights, they both met with God personally on the mount, they both were stuck in the cleft of the rock. Moses was put into the cleft of the rock when the Lord passed by literally and He held his hand up so he couldn’t see him till He got by and he just got a glimpse of him. And the radiation was so intense that it completely irradiated Moses and when he came down from the mount his face was shinning so brightly that the people couldn’t stand to look at him. He had to put a veil over his face every time he talked with the people and when they were gone he could take the veil off. Ultimately it dissipated of course as all radiation does. But Moses saw Christ literally, he spoke to him literally, he got the law, the commandments literally, the Covenant and delivered it
literally to the ancient literal Israel.
 
The other one that was called up there was Elijah. He was also jealous of the covenant, he had this experience with Ahab, prayed that there wouldn’t be rain for three and a half years. Now rain is the symbol of the Spirit incidentally, keep that in mind. There was drought in Israel for three and a half years, the Spirit didn’t come, the rain didn’t come, all these things are historical and have an application to God’s people today. And at the end of that time he went back to Ahab and he called all these people up to Carmel and they had this demonstration. Now who is going to believe in the true God? You fellows, you call your gods and after the day had gone by and nothing showed up and their altar was still there without any sign of its being ignited in spite of their attempts at trickery, as the devil always functions. You remember that Elijah had them pour buckets of water on the altar and around the altar in a trench and so on. And he prayed and what happen? The fire came down and it licked up the water as well as everything else. Then Elijah and his servant went out and Elijah prayed seven times for the rain to come, he didn’t stop at the first, second, or third, he went right on through to six times without any results and on the seventh his servant saw a little bit of a cloud and Elijah knew that the end had come, and he got off to Ahab and told him get on down, it was going to rain. And it rained so hard that there was no way they could find their road. the prophet had to guide them by his prophetic instinct miraculously back to the palace.

(Larry) Brother Johnson, Having a drought for three years, no water around, they must have had a lot of water to fill all those buckets to pour over the altar, huh?

(Wilfred) If I remember correctly the answer to that is on the map. It was near a body of water. And certainly they had water or they would never have survived. But the details as to how they survived I don’t know. I know how Elijah survived, the Bible tells us but how the rest of them survived the Bible says there was great suffering.

Well, this has a parallel and I don’t know whether I should move into that at this point or not. It has a parallel today, water, rain is a symbol of the out-pouring of the Spirit, and so is fire, remember the tongues of fire? Remember John the Baptist statement that somebody is going to come after me and is going to baptize you with the Spirit and with fire. And we know that there is going to be a great out-pouring of rain today, don’t we? Known as the latter rain, the out-pouring of the Spirit.

Well. Let me quickly move through this and I apologize to those of you who I have done this with before but I feel that I have to do this for the sake of those who haven’t been with us so we all can get together.

Elijah also went up to Horeb, he fled from Jezebel remember, out into the desert a days journey because she threatened to kill him. A remarkable experience, a remarkable insight into the character of this man; one day he was on the mountain top with tremendous miracles and the next day he was down in the dumps running for his life from a woman. After God had shown him how he could take care of Elijah he was scared of a woman. Well, lets not criticize him too severally maybe the rest of us will have a chance to demonstrate our lack of courage sometime along the line too. Certainly we’re going to be facing things that will be similar to what he faced.

The angel woke him up out there, he was exhausted and fell asleep, the angel woke him and told him to eat and there was food for him to eat and drink. He fell asleep again and the angel woke him the second time and he ate a second time and he went in the strength of that food forty days and forty nights, to Horeb the mount of God. Similar to Moses, see? He went up the mount, the Lord called him, not out loud but with a still small voice, The Lord didn’t come down on that mount with all the commotion and all the physical thunder and lightening as he came down in the time Moses came around, He came in a still small voice which is significant, that’s the way the Spirit of God speaks, in a still small voice. And it said; What are you doing here Elijah? And then Elijah dwelt in the cave, I am not getting this in the right sequence here, and Elijah dwelt in the cave and the Lord called him to stand at the month of the cave. He came to the mouth of the cave and the Lord passed by the same as He had done with Moses. But not the same, there was a great earthquake but the Lord was not in the earthquake, there was a great wind that rent the rocks but the Lord was not in the wind, there was a great fire and the Lord was not in the fire, then it says, behold, a still small voice. And God said again; What are you doing here Elijah? Now, the significance of all this is simply that Elijah met with God but he met with God in a different way than Moses did. Elijah met with God through the Spirit. Now I want to point out something to you, Moses is representative of Christ; he himself said that a prophet should the Lord thy God raise up unto thee like unto me, meaning Christ. Elijah is a type of the Holy Spirit and the more you look at his experiences the more you recognize that and incidentally in passing, Enoch the third person who was translated to heaven who was actually the first was a type of God the Father. You have three men that were called as representatives of the trinity so to speak, Enoch the first one, representing God the Father, Moses the second one representing Christ and he went through death and was raised from the dead to represent those who shall come forth at the resurrection and also to represent Christ who went through it too. And Elijah was translated without seeing death to represent those who will get the final out-pouring of the Spirit and I honestly believe that some of them are setting right here are going to get it or I don’t think you'd be here.

The day of the Lord is just ahead of us and the fulfillment of all things and the restoration of all things is about to be accomplished. And those who receive the final out-pouring of the Spirit and the delivering of the New or Everlasting Covenant fulfilled in their experience will go through the seven last plagues and be translated. It’s just that simply, and the Bible tells us very plainly that this second witness who was called up there with Moses to witness the sacrifice in the heavenly sanctuary to become familiar with the Everlasting Covenant from the mouth of the Lord Jesus himself who gave it, who made it. These two men were to be witnesses of this experience, now the Bible says; I’m going to come back to that. Jesus mentions that He couldn’t testify to himself, He couldn’t be a witness for himself, somebody else would be a witness for him and I’ll come back to that.

Elijah is connected with the New Covenant and the Bible says that somebody is to come in the spirit and power of Elijah and John the Baptist came and the angel said that he was fulfilling that particular prophecy. Maybe we should read that just to be clear on it. It’s Luke Chapter 1 verse 13 “But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. 14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. 15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb 16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God. 17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” You notice here that similar words are used in the promise in Malachi you will also notice that it has reference to the law of God, same as it did in Malachi. 4 "Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel with the statutes and judgments. 5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.” Well, I explained that last day but I want you to notice here that we have here these two witnesses brought together, the two witnesses of the Covenant. See, here they are. They appeared again on the mount of transfiguration and do you remember what Jesus said prior to that? He said some of you standing here shall not taste of death till you see what?

(John) The Kingdom of God coming.

(Wilfred) So this is a miniature representation of the Kingdom of God. Moses representing those who shall be raised from the dead, Elijah representing those who shall be translated.

(John) Brother Johnson. May I read a statement on that?

(Wilfred) Yes.

(John) Here was Jesus as a man upon earth and it says; these men, that’s Moses and Elijah, chosen above every angel around the throne had come to commune with Jesus concerning the scenes of his suffering and comfort him with the assurance of the sympathy of heaven the hope of the world, the salvation of every human being was the burden of their interview.

(Wilfred) Both of them were concerned about turning the disobedient to the wisdom of the just. There is no getting around it the condition of eternal life is obedience to God's law. Obedience is the key, but we can’t obey, we find that it is impossible to keep God’s law in a manner that is acceptable, so we are totally dependent on the provisions of the Covenant to do it and what is the agency that grants the power to keep God’s law?

(John) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit. And we could go into the conditions for receiving it and all the rest of it but that would take us far afield again.

Now John the Baptist was the first who came in the spirit and power of Elijah but not the last. She tells us in The SDA Bible Commentary volume 4 I think it is, page 1184. “In this age, just prior to the second coming of Christ in the clouds of heaven, God calls for men who will prepare a people to stand in the great day of the Lord.” Now, if the great and dreadful day of the Lord is just ahead of us, and it surely is, and there is a people to be prepared for it and God is calling men who will prepare a people, don’t you see that this is due right now? Do you see that? “Just such a work as that which John did, is to be carried on in these last days.” Do you remember what work John did? Calling people to repentance. Calling them to obedience to God’s law. Remember the Law of Moses don’t forget it. Remember the Covenant. Now that’s the work to be done today. Are you hearing the voices yet? Where are the calls to obedience? Are you hearing them? Well, they’re going to get louder because the situation is becoming urgent. “The Lord is giving messages to His people, through the instruments He has chosen, and He would have all heed the admonitions and warnings He sends. The message preceding the public ministry of Christ was, Repent, publicans and sinners; repent, Pharisees and Sadducees; "for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Both John the Baptist and Christ preached that same message. “Our message is not to be one of peace and safety. As a people who believe in Christ's soon appearing, we have a definite message to bear, - "Prepare to meet thy God. Our message must be as direct as was that of John. He rebuked kings for their iniquity. Notwithstanding the peril his life was in, he never allowed truth to languish on his lips. Our work in this age must be as faithfully done. In this time of well-nigh universal apostasy, God calls upon His messengers to proclaim His law in the spirit and power of Elias. As John the Baptist, in preparing a people for Christ's first advent, called their attention to the ten commandments, so we are to give, with no uncertain sound, the message: "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come." With the earnestness that characterized Elijah the prophet and John the Baptist, we are to strive to prepare the way for Christ's second advent.”

(Larry) Brother Johnson, could a man like Billy Graham fill that role in your judgment?

(Wilfred) He could.

(Larry) Would he have to be an Adventist to fill that role?

(Wilfred) I do not think so, but he has to call people to the law of God. And how can you call people to the Law of God when you do not honor God’s flag?

Now, can I go into what I had planned for tonight? I know some of you are sleepy but if you miss any of this it’s going on tape and it is possible to get it eventually. Will you turn now to Revelation Chapter 1.

(Larry) What do you classify your topic as tonight?

(Wilfred) Well, I didn’t give it a topic I’m just going to develop further what we’ve talked about in connection with the two witnesses and the Elijah message. Revelation 1:4. The first point I want to bring out deals with the experience of Jesus, and before we read it let me lay the groundwork. Christ as He existed in Heaven before He came to this world was one with the Spirit of God. The eternal life of Christ came to him or was his possession through the agency of the Spirit of God. Now I haven’t time to go through the proofs for this but let me just refer to this one statement that says that the impartation of the life of Christ, the impartation of the Spirit is the impartation of the life of Christ. That is the life of Christ and the spirit are identified. Another statement I can read to you which comes from The Review and Herald May 19, 1904 where she says; “Christ declared that after his ascension, he would send to his church, as his crowning gift, the Comforter, who was to take his place. This Comforter is the Holy Spirit, - the soul of his life,” Now we are dealing with a mystery here so let’s not delve into it too far and ask too many questions. But this much we can say; that the eternal life of Christ was the Holy Spirit of God. As the Spirit was breathed into Adams nostrils and he became a living soul even so Christ the Son of God had eternal life in himself by virtue of the fact that He was identified with the Holy Spirit. Now that is not to say that the Holy Spirit was not a separate personality so lets not get confused here, but the Holy Spirit is the very soul of the life of Christ, I just read it to you. Now if you want a definition of a soul there are several of them. One definition of ‘soul’ is the thinking part of a person. Sometimes ‘soul’ is simply used to express the spirit of life. Sometimes ‘soul’ is used to comprehend the entire person - man became a living soul.

Now, to what extent Christ was identified with the Holy Spirit, again I am not going into details, all I’m saying is; that when Christ laid down his life in the heavenly sanctuary He relinquished life in himself. If He had not relinquished it He could not have died. Now, that portion of him which had life in itself and which is identified with the Holy Spirit - the soul of the life of Christ. That part, his divine part, his divinity did not die, she says that. That part we can derive from the rest of the Bible, it went back to the Father who gave it.

(Larry) You said she says it, can you tell us where she says that?

(Wilfred) Which statement?

(Larry) The statement that you just said.

(Wilfred) Yes, but I can’t tell you right now. I can find it or John can find it.

(John) It's in The SDA Bible Commentary; I can give you those references afterwards.

(Larry) Ok. Good enough.

(Wilfred) Now, when you give your life the Bible indicates that the shedding of the blood is the way the life is given in the sacrifice. Is that right?

(A man in the audience) Yes.

(Wilfred) Sacrificial death of all these animals and everybody had to kill their own animal, you know, and all this blood, a terrible gruesome thing. What a lesson the Lord taught these people. Here was Christ then who laid down his life own life. Now, the blood is the symbol of the life that’s all, just a symbol of it. The Spirit of life is the essence of life, without the Spirit of life there is no life in the body, do you understand? It was the Spirit of life that was relinquished by Christ before He could go to sleep and show up as a little seed in Mary’s womb, is that clear? He wasn’t still living in heaven as a person, conscious, or there would have been two Christ’s, no dice. But the soul of Christ, the Holy Spirit, was still alive, it couldn’t die, that was the Ghost of Christ and that is why the Bible calls it the Holy Ghost. The Bible doesn’t make any mistakes, sometimes the translators do but God doesn’t let any mistake get through that’s significant and that will throw people off the course. Every significant thing in the Bible is there for our admonition.

The Ghost is that which remains after someone dies, the image of the individual who died, right? That’s the Holy Ghost, that is the Spirit and power of Christ. Do I have to repeat that? What comes to you when Christ comes to you? John Chapter 14. Now this is very important that you get this. I would like everybody to read this if you possibly can so we can make sure you get it. I’m going to start with verse 15, Jesus said; 15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” And if you do that; 16 “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,” In whose possession was the Comforter?

(Several voices in the audience) The Father.

(Wilfred) Whose possession had the Comforter been?

(Several voices in the Audience) Christ’s

(Wilfred) If you don’t believe that we are coming to it in just a minute. Now, who decides whether the Comforter is going to come to us or not?

(Several voices in the audience) The Father, Christ.

Wilfred) Christ! Who is it that does the praying here? I will pray the Father and He will send you another Comforter. All right? Here is the Father acting as administrator of the last will and testament of Christ. This is Christ’s Spirit, He is praying the Father to send that Spirit to you and me. Let’s verify that, reading on, “That he may abide with you for” - a day or two?

(John) Forever.

(Wilfred) Forever. So, is this going to be a permanent possession or one that can be taken away again?

(Several voices in the audience) Permanent.

(Wilfred) When Christ had it in the first place was it a permanent possession or was it one that could be taken away?

(Several voices in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Permanent. How did it get taken away from him? It didn’t. It didn’t get taken away He gave it voluntarily. 17 “Even the Spirit of truth;” And we can talk about that. “Whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, It can’t receive that because they cannot see it. “Neither knoweth him: but ye know him for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” Now, where was the Spirit of Christ, the Comforter? It was with them and in them. They already had some of it. Now He says, 18 “I will not leave you comfortless; I will send the Spirit unto you. Have you got your Bibles there? What does it say?

(A man in the audience) "I will come to you."

(Wilfred) “I will come to you.” Now, He just said He was going to send the Spirit and that would be a Comforter, now He says; I’m going to come. Now are there two things that are going to come or one?

(Several voices in the audience) One.

(Wilfred) What one is it? But the Holy Spirit is identified with what.

(Several voices in the audience) Christ.

(Wilfred) So that when we talk about Christ dwelling in us, Christ coming to live in us, are we talking about that physical Jesus up there coming to somehow or other to merge with us? Impossible, impossible. But the original life of Christ which had the quality of omnipresence, this could come and he doesn’t say; I’m going to pray the father and He is going to send you another comforter and He will abide with you forever and that comforter is the Father’s and He’ll dwell in you. That’s not what He said, He said; I’m going to come. Have I made my point? 19 “Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more, but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.” Is He talking about the physical body of Jesus or his former body the Ghost?

(A man in the audience) The Ghost.

(Wilfred) He’s talking about the Holy Ghost. Who else is wrapped up with the Holy Ghost? The Father, the Father. All right. Now let’s go on, “21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”  Now down to verse 23. ”If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” In the Laodicean message, Revelation 3:20; “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” I want to ask you; what voice are you going to hear at the door? Are you going to hear that voice of Christ on the mount when Moses was up there or are you going to hear that still small voice on the mount when Elijah was up there?

(Several voices at once) The still small voice.

(Wilfred) The still small voice of Christ when he talked with Elijah, got that?

Now, The Holy Ghost is the Spirit and power of Christ. When the Holy Ghost comes to us it gives us power to overcome sin. We’ve read all these statements, I’ve read to you now that the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Christ, I’ve read you that. Do you follow me now when I say that the Holy Ghost is the Spirit and power of Christ? Do you follow that? Now, when Jesus came into this world He himself became the first partaker of the Spirit and power of Christ. Do you get that? He was a dual, a human and divine, both him, but listen, the Ghost, the Holy Spirit had it’s own personality and consciousness, it was not the consciousness of Jesus. The consciousness of Jesus was a separate consciousness, there were two personalities and the personality of the Holy Spirit comes in the Spirit and power of Christ to possess Jesus. It was the Holy Ghost that initiated Jesus’ birth, that’s point number 1. During his growth He partook of the Holy Spirit as God gave it to him and He grew in wisdom and stature and in favor with God and man. At his baptism, which is a symbol of the new birth, you know, repentance and confession and so on and baptism and we read you that Jesus went through those steps, I read that to you, some of you doubted it until I found it. He did it as an example for us because he never sinned. He was anointed with the Holy Spirit, He receive an abundant out-pouring of the Spirit, in fact He received the identity of his former self. So that He could say, before Abraham was, I am. Don’t ask me to give you details here I can’t give them to you. I am simply giving to you what I find in the Book. He became the author of eternal salvation unto all that believe. He was Christ, He was the Son of God, He was the one who had existed from eternity with his Father, the same person. How much He remembered, if anything, I can’t tell you. Maybe he had memories of his former existence, maybe He had snatches of these. I am suspicious 

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It is certain that he did not have a complete memory of all his former existence. No human being has that capacity, we’re limited to about twelve billion brain cells and there is a limit to the capacity of the human mind and we can remember many things in the past but we don’t remember them at once and we remember only segments at a time and we don’t remember everything. Now, the degree to which he would remember his past is something that I’ll skip over, if it ever becomes clear to me I’ll share it with you or if it ever becomes clear to you and you have some evidence for it I’ll be very happy to receive the information.

Meanwhile, I know that He could have returned to his total former memory, but He submitted himself to whatever God gave him.

(Larry) There is considerable evidence that we don’t use all our synaptic connections. Many of them are unused.

(Wilfred) Oh, yes. We have a tremendous potential for expansion.

(Larry) This is what we might even enjoy in heaven.

(Wilfred) Sure thing. But I think there that our minds will expand as well. I don’t know exactly how it’s going to happen but they will expand there is no doubt about that, however, in human form at the present time it’s going to take one hundred and forty four thousand human brains to reproduce the mind of Christ as it originally was, they formed the new temple of God in which he dwells. Now, there is a lot more to that, some of you may get hung up on that point but don’t, stick it up on the pantry shelf until such time as we have the opportunity to show you the logic of that, don’t blow any gaskets.

Now, the point that I’m leading up to is this question about the Spirit and power. I want you to understand that Jesus operated under the Spirit and power of Christ. And when I say ‘Jesus’ I am talking about the humanity part of it and when I say ‘Christ’ I’m talking about the divinity part of it. Jesus the human operated under the Spirit and power of Christ the divine. That is, well, I guess that’s the best way I can say it. He possessed the Spirit and power of his former life.

Now, let’s see if we can understand this Elijah business. I have heard a lot of sermons on this and I have never heard one that really satisfied me, and I’m not so sure that I can explain everything in it to satisfy me. But that is neither here nor there. The thing we need to understand and the only excuse for my even talking about it is the fact that wrapped up in the message in those last verses in Malachi is the perfection of God’s people today before probation closes which has to be accomplished before probation can close. And I showed you before that this could have been done before now, and should have been done before now and it is high time that it’s going to be done. And if we don’t move pretty soon the Lord’s going to step in and the fireworks are going to start and it’s going to be no fun. The great and dreadful day of the Lord is gong to be preceded by a message termed the "Elijah Message" which comes in the spirit and power of Elijah to prepare a people to stand in that day and to be ready to meet their God. Do you understand that? Is there any question about that?

Now, how does it function? All right, here’s John the Baptist, the angel told Zachariah he was going to come in the spirit and power of Elijah, the angel told him that so we don’t question it. When the disciples came down from the mount of transfiguration they talked to Jesus and said how come that the Jews say or the Pharisees is it or the scribe or somebody, I forget these insignificant details. And how come the Jews say that Elijah is going to come first? And Jesus said; shall we read it? Matthew Chapter 17 verse 10 “And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes” It was the scribes. “That Elias must first come?” Logically it would have to be the scribes, they are the ones that could read the scriptures, 11 “And Jesus answered and said unto them,” Notice what He said. "Elias truly shall first come,” And what’s He going to do?

(Several voices in the audience) Restore all things.

(Wilfred) Do you know what that means?

(A man in the audience) Restore the Kingdom.

(Wilfred) Restore the things that have been lost. What had been lost?

(A man in the audience) Allegiance to God.

(Wilfred) Originally it was allegiance to God, questioning the integrity of God and his law. Right? Now, that’s got to be restored and we have already seen that the Elijah message pinpoints that right to a tee, restoration of allegiance to the law of God. Well, there is more to that but we’ll let it go for a moment. 12 “But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.” So Jesus acknowledged that John the Baptist had come in the spirit and power of Elijah to fulfill this message. Is that right? But notice what he had said before He acknowledged that, what did He say?

(John) He will restore all things.

(Wilfred) Now, did John the Baptist restore all things?

(John) No.

(Wilfred) You would have to stretch your imagination pretty far to come to that conclusion. Did he come before the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

(Several voices at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Yes, he did, but he came a long ways ahead didn’t he? Now, I have already read to you that today in our day there is to be a repetition of this. I read you that. Right now before the great and dreadful day of the Lord there is to be a repetition and that’s the part that concerns us. Meanwhile, the Pharisees I think it was this time, anyway, some of the Jews went to John the Baptist and asked him; Who are you anyway? And they asked him straight out, are you Elijah? He said, no. Jesus said Elijah has come already, John said, No, I’m not Elijah. Now how do you fit that together, or is it too deep?

(John) Jesus recognized that he was in the spirit and power of Elijah and John the Baptist didn’t that’s the only way that I can reconcile it. There was something that Jesus knew and John the Baptist didn’t recognize. Is that correct?

(Wilfred) All right, now, let me take you back to what we just talked about with Christ. And I’m just going to throw this out, you can leave it or take it, I don’t think it is that urgent because that’s way in the past. What happens today is more urgent to us. But John came in the spirit and power of Elijah. Where was Elijah?

(Several voices at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) He was in Heaven. Listen, when Jesus came in the spirit and power of Christ where was Christ?

(Several voices at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) The Holy Ghost which was the soul of Christ, where was he?

(Several voices at once) In Heaven.

(Wilfred) The divinity of Christ which couldn’t die, where was it?

(Several voices at once) In Heaven.

(Wilfred) It was in Heaven wasn’t it? Where was Jesus?

(Several voices at once) On earth.

(Wilfred) He came in the spirit and power of...?

(Several voices at once) Christ.

(Wilfred) Christ. Ok, here’s John the Baptist on earth, see? Where’s Elijah?

(Several voices at once) In Heaven.

(Wilfred) John came in the spirit and power of...

(Several voices at once) Elijah.

(Wilfred) Where was Elijah? Do you see the parallel? Don’t ask me any more questions that’s as far as I can go.

(Larry) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) All right, that’s as far as I can go.

Now today, let’s read what Sister Whites says, 1 Selective Messages page 412. Sister White was dealing here with people who were not accepting her as the Lord’s prophet, they were not accepting the messages, they would not take the light she was sharing with them and she is giving him a little bit of reproof here. She says; “We should come into a position where every difference will be melted away. If I think I have light, I shall do my duty in presenting it. Suppose I consulted others concerning the message the Lord would have me give to the people, the door might be closed so that the light might not reach the ones to whom God had sent it.” If she had to stop and consult someone else about it, she says. Now, I have read you statements on this so I don’t need to repeat that. There are times when God calls a messenger to go directly to the people, they are few and far between, but they do happen. Then she goes on to say this, “The Jews tried to stop the proclamation of the message that had been predicted in the Word of God;” She’s talking about the Jews now. “But prophecy must be fulfilled. The Lord says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord" And she explains, “Somebody is to come in the spirit and power of Elijah, and when he appears, men may say, "You are too earnest, you do not interpret the Scriptures in the proper way. Let me tell you how to teach your message." All right, she tells us here in the other book that the work that happened in John the Baptist’s day is to be repeated in our day. Right? And here she says that somebody is going to come and when he comes someone is going to say, well You are too earnest, you are not interpreting the Scriptures the right way. Let me tell you how it’s done. Let me show you what it means. You see? Now that we can expect because she says it, see?

However, let’s be careful here. Elijah is a type of what?

(John) The Holy Spirit.

(Wilfred) The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has what characteristics that Jesus in person did not have when He was on the earth?

(John) He had omnipresence.

(Wilfred) It had omnipresence. How many people is the Holy Spirit going to work in? One, or more than one?

(John) More that one.

(Wilfred) More than one. How many people is the spirit and power of Elijah going to work in? One, or more than one?

(John) More that one.

(Wilfred) More than one. Ok, now you’ve got it.

Now, as the spirit and power of Elijah worked in John the Baptist so the spirit and power of Elijah is going to work in people today. Don’t ask me how many because I don’t know. But it’s going to work in people today before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord and the message is going to be clear and crystal. And it’s going to center on the Everlasting Covenant. As Moses delivered the Old Covenant I’m going to call it now because it is old in a sense that it came before the delivering of the New. Although it was the Everlasting Covenant that he delivered to ancient literal Israel. Elijah is to return, the Bible says, to complete the work of the delivering the Everlasting Covenant which John started, you got that? And that has to be done before the great and dreadful day of the Lord and before the close of probation. So you see where we’re sitting don’t you? Now, if probation doesn’t close for another fifty years you may as well go home and watch TV. But listen, who decides when probation is going to close?

(Mumbling in the audience)

(Wilfred) The Bible says and The Spirit of Prophecy says; We may hasten or delay the coming of Jesus. So we have something to say about when it closes. That is not to discount the foreknowledge of God. And I’ll let you in on a secret, no it’s not a secret I’ve told some of it before, I think that God has a time clock just the same and He knows about how sluggish we are in as much as we know how sluggish our kids are and we can just about estimate what will happen. We still have a free will but if we drag our feet too long like our kids sometimes drag theirs too long what do we do as parents? We give them a little bit of a push don’t we? And that’s what the Lord is going to do and we have already covered that. The sword of the Lord spewing the Laodiceans out of his mouth. Remember? That’s what He is going to do and that will initiated the shaking among God’s people, it constitutes the revelation of advancing truth, unfolding truth, and some will not bear it, the testimony of The Spirit of Prophecy. Some will not bear it and this is what causes the shaking among God’s people. Remember Ezekiel 9? The man with the writers inkhorn who goes through the midst of the city, Jerusalem which the church, placing the mark upon those who sigh and cry for the abomination that be done in the city, and those people are right in the midst of the city. So the people who are going to be sealed Brothers and Sisters are right in the middle of the church. And they are sighing and crying because of the abominations in the church and I was going to read you a chapter on that tonight but I don’t think I have time to do it, I guess I may get started at it if we don’t get too tired. And it is in this setting that the shaking occurs because there are six men called forth, six men who have charge over the city. That’s what it says, Ezekiel 9 and she says that’s the picture of the sealing. Six men who have charge over the city are called forth and one man among them has a writer’s inkhorn by his side. And he is ordered to go through the midst of the city and put a mark on all those that sigh and cry for the abominations that be done in the city. She explains that this is the mark of truth that the sealing constitutes a settling into the truth so you will become riveted in the truth. The thing will become so clear to you that you cannot let it go, nobody will be able to argue you out of it, you are settled into it, that’s the sealing. And you are sealed by the Holy Spirit it says, well, that’s obvious because you cannot understand God’s truth without the assistance of the Spirit of truth and that is what Jesus said He would pray for.

Then there are five others who have a slaughtering weapon in their hand. The margin says; a breaking in pieces weapon, and Sister White says that they are messengers of the Lord and remember that they come from those who have charge of the city. Now you can draw your own conclusion. Five men represent messengers who are coming from among those who have charge over the city, the church and they have a destroying weapon in their hands, a breaking in pieces weapon. They are going to come after the man with the writer’s inkhorn. Now, the man with the writer’s inkhorn is putting the mark of truth on these people who are sighing and crying for all the abominations that are being done in the city. These other fellows are going to come on after him and slay utterly old and young, not literally, this is not a literal thing. It means that they are going to come after him and break in pieces. Now, this is a picture of the shaking, pure and simple. And I have already gone through with the group before so I won’t repeat all this, and those of you who weren’t with us if you get hung up on it, we can probably help you out individually.

As the truth unfolds there will be those who will not follow on in the new and expanding truth. And what happens when they don’t do it? When they rise up against it? The old truth loses its vital power and becomes but a lifeless form. That’s what she says. And at this time the organized church will become a lifeless form. Now this will take place over a period of time, there are no more time prophecies in the Bible, but don’t forget, certain things happened in the olden times which are going to be repeated today. And while no message is going to hinge on time there will be a time allotment for this to take place and it’s given in the Bible but I won’t take time to try to prove it to you.

And when it is finished, the sealing is completed, the shaking is completed, the marriage of the Lamb is consummated, the subjects of the Kingdom are made up and probation closes and Michael stands up. And He pauses a moment as He is about to leave the sanctuary to place upon the head of the scapegoat all the sins of God’s people which have been confessed since He entered the most holy apartment which was in 1844. So that the sins confessed since 1844 are a special type of sins and we can’t go into that either but the answers are in the books, it’s all there. There are a lot of things in our message Brothers and Sisters that we don’t understand yet, just a lot of things. And when I was young I asked all kinds of questions and got no answers. As I told you last week I went to God and asked him if He could help me out and He did. And some of the things I am sharing with you I have had for over thirty years and couldn’t share them except with just a rare individual among my closest friends who were quite trustworthy. There was no safety with sharing it with anyone else because God’s people were just not ready to open their minds up to receive it, but we are living in a different age today. God is preparing his people, He is taking the reins into his own hands, He is working on individual minds here, there, and everywhere and they are coming up with renewed understanding and expanded understandings of his truth and within a short time, how long I can’t tell you, all of these segments of truth are going to come together into a complete unit and panorama that will fit like a glove. And those who see it will be sealed, settled into the truth and those who rise up against it will not see it, will not be sealed. They need not necessarily be lost; it depends on what their attitude towards God is. Many of them will go to their graves and I have read you the texts on that, they will be laid in their beds from the evil to come. But those who elect to stand with God through thick and thin will and be one of his witnesses to demonstrate that it is possible to overcome all sin and live without sin, without an intercessor, those who are willing to do that are going to go through the great and dreadful day of the Lord which constitutes for them the purifying process whereby they become made holy. They are going to go through that and they are going to go through the seven last plagues proving that the Lord could save his people from their sins. And if they don’t do it, if nobody does it the honor of God’s throne is at stake, she tells us. The honor of God’s throne is at stake in the perfection of his people, that’s what she says. And that is why Christ hasn’t been able to come. He can’t, He can never come if we don’t do it. But there is a limit to God’s patience and I was going to read you that tonight too. I don’t know were exactly it is so I won’t read it to you at the moment. But I want to just show you that there is a limit to God’s patience. If you want to read it it’s in the last verse of the Old Testament. If God’s people fail to respond to the call for obedience, if they fail to respond and continue to fail to respond the limits of God’s patience will be reached and what it says in the last words of the Old Testament, the very last words that Christ uttered before He made that stupendous sacrifice, what are they?

(A man in the audience) Lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

(Wilfred) It’s lost, it’s lost. The salvation and preservation of this earth depends on a hundred and forty four thousand people who are willing to go through with God. Do you get that point or is that stretching it?

(John) Sister White says that God has staked his very throne relative to the perfection of his people.

(Wilfred) Yes, I have read it. Now are you willing to permit God to give you the spirit and power of Elijah? Are you willing to permit God to pour upon you the power of Christ in the outpouring of the latter rain? You say, oh yes, I’m willing to do that. But listen it involves more than just being willing to do it. If you’re willing then you have to decide to put your will on the side of Christ’s will and that means obedience, that’s what it means, pure and simple. It means submitting yourself to the refining process that you find in Malachi chapter 3 that we have gone over. You’re going to be plunged into the crucible; this is involved in the great and dreadful day of the Lord. It’s a terrible day, you’ll find the description in Joel chapter 2, but it’s going to bring the perfection of God’s people. There is no way to purify gold except through heating it you know? Heating it up until the slag comes off, you skim it off, that’s the only way. And that’s the only way to purify a human soul through a crucible of fire. We have to drink of the cup and be baptized with the baptism which means we have to partake of the sufferings of Christ. We have to do this because it’s the only way that we can learn by personal experience what the love of God is really like. Not until we have a share of his sufferings do we know what he put up with in order to provide probation for us and a way of escape from eternal death. But when we do share the sufferings of Christ we do get a taste of what He suffers for us which does reveal to us personally the nature of his love for us and where love rules the heart sin fades away. You will do things for the one you love you will not do for one you don’t love. Love begets love. Well, I’m not going to go into that area tonight, there’s a whole study on that, the Bible is full of it, The Spirit of Prophecy has a large amount of quotations on it.

This is the thing we need to be steeling ourselves for right now, preparing for. We need to be ready at any moment, she tells us, for a conflict with the powers of darkness, and that conflict may be intense and it may be prolonged. We may be suddenly plunged into it and think all hell is let loose, what’s happened to God, where has He gone to? And it can destroy our relationship, it can destroy our faith if we are not firmly grounded in the truth. The Laodicean message councils us to buy of him gold tired in the fire. Now, the gold is faith and love, faith and love, to be tired in the fire. Faith is what gets you imputed righteousness, and love is want gets you imparted righteousness but they both depend on faith and they both have to be tired. Your faith has to be tired and it will be. You will have days when you get plunged into this experience, you will have days when you wonder whether there is a God and whether the Bible’s true or not. You will be tempted to think like the devil did that the Lord is just a big imposture. He claims to be a God of love and look at what He’s doing to you. You’ll have those feeling, your love will be tested and your love will be tested primarily in relationship with your brethren. Because He says inasmuch as you’ve done it to one of these, the least of my brethren you’ve done it unto me. His last concern with his disciples was that they have the love of God in their hearts that they may love one another as He loved his Father and his Father loved him. You’ll find it in his last prayer.

And the test will come, and I’ve shown you this too, when the sword of the Lord comes upon his people. Now, the sword of the Lord which He spews out of his mouth on the Laodiceans who were lukewarm let that sword which was designed to smarten them up is sharpen and furbished, it cuts deeper, it’s furbished, and it’s polished, it reflects more light. It will cut into the very bones and marrow and it will reflect more light. And because of that there will come in differences between brethren, some will rise up against the new light and will not bear it and that causes the shaking. Don’t you see how it ties in? Now, there is the test of brotherly love. Can you accept a brother who has an opposite view of that same passage of scripture to what you have got? Can you relate to him as a brother? You may both be right, it is a two edged sword. The sword cuts one way but the other edge cuts in the opposite direction so you may have two opposite views but the same sword. Now, there comes a day when those two opposing views will be reconciled. I could give you many examples of this. But until that day comes you have a problem. Now, some brethren in our denomination some good solid theologians and teachers in our schools believe that you cannot become prefect before Christ comes the second time, that’s what they believe and they are sincere in their belief. They believe that Jesus was human only in the sense that He took on humanity as it was in Adam before he fell, they believe that in all sincerity. Then there are others, like me, who believe that you can become perfect before probation closes and that the very conclusion of the plan of salvation depends on it. The very covenant that was made between Christ and his Father was designed to save a man not in sin but from sin and I’ve got lots of proof for it, lots of proof, at least to my mind. And I’ve listened to the arguments on the other side as often and opened minded as I possibly could and I just can’t make sense out of it.

And the humanity that Jesus took I read it very clearly in The Spirit of Prophecy and the Bible was the humanity as it was degenerated after four thousands years of sin. That’s the humanity that Christ took. And in that humanity He proved that with divinity combined it was possible to live without sin and that tells me that Wilf Johnson can live without sin. That gives me hope, it can be done and I know how it can be done through a union with divinity and divinity comes through the agency of the Holy Spirit and I find the conditions for receiving the Holy Spirit in the books.

(John) Given to those who obey him.

(Wilfred) Given to those who obey him. Acts, I think its chapter 17. And it’s given to those who purify their own soul temples. Those who get rid of every defilement. Now, that seems to be a contradiction. You can’t do it and yet you have to do it to get the Spirit. Well, it’s sort of teeter-totter up and down thing and you climb. The Lord gives a measure of his Spirit and if you respond to the Spirit to the best of your ability then He gives you another measure. And you respond to the best of you ability again but you’ve got an additional power, see? So you go a little higher and that’s the way it goes. Sanctification, it’s the process of a lifetime. And the Lord will let you go just as high as you can go and if you can’t go any higher than that and that's where you keep on teetering and you just can’t make it any further than that then the Lord puts you in the grave at that point. He may let you stay there for several years but if He knows that if you get into a new situation and you’re going to start down again He’ll take you right there, you won’t live another day. That’s the best point that He can get you. He wants you to have the best that there is, that you can possibly reach and He never makes any mistakes. You and I are here because God sees that we can still go a little further, but how patient He’s been. Oh how patient He's been. I’m sure that some of us have been teetering here for a long time, we go a little bit higher and we drop back again, we go a little higher and we drop back again, maybe it’s that midnight snack, I don’t know what it is. But the last thing we are going to overcome is the sin of a perverted appetite. That’s the first one man fell on and the last one we are going to overcome. So if you are working on appetite and you’ve got all the other ones licked you’re at the end of the road.

Now, there is a chapter called "The Seal of God".

(Larry) Otherwise if you don’t work on your appetite you’ve got quite a ways to go.

(Wilfred) (Laughing) Not necessarily maybe you’ve conquered it, maybe you’ve made it.

(John) She does make the statement brother that if we could come up on the fight of appetite we could overcome on every other point.

(Wilfred) What you eat has a fantastic amount to do with the way you function. Your mind is a chemical factory.

(Larry) And when you eat.

(Wilfred) And when you eat. Your mind is a chemical factory and it is programmed and timed and it functions on rhythm and if you learn to cooperate with those laws you’ve got it made. But if you don’t your mechanism will not function to help you understand the deep truths of God. You cannot comprehend the deep truths of God if you don’t cooperate with God. There is no way, you can’t do it. You’ll only see so much and that’s it, you may become confused because you haven’t got the total pattern. You need all the parts of the jigsaw puzzle and put them together to see the picture. But once you get them there nobody can move you on it. They can’t come in and say, that’s in the wrong place, that one should be over there. Oh no, it shouldn’t. How do you know? Well, it mars the picture unless you put it in the right spot. Right? That’s the way God’s truth is, just the same way. When once those pieces get into the right slot, there it is and nobody can move it, it’s fixed. And some of the landmarks of our faith are like that, we’ve got them placed, they’re already in place. And Sister White says; You cannot move those and any new truth will not destroy those, it will build on those. It will put other pieces in to enhance what we have already got, and that’s the way it is.

Well I don’t think I’ll have time to finish this chapter tonight. How do you feel? Do you want to finish out the two hours? We’ve about twenty-five minutes or have you had enough or do you want to just sit and discuss things?

I think maybe I shouldn’t start this chapter because I would run a little too far. It has a lot of good things in it, I’m telling you.

(John) Can you give us the reference for that chapter?

(Wilfred) Yes, you gave it to me. It’s 207 in volume 5 of Testimonies for the Church. It’s called "The Seal of God". Now you may read that chapter if you wish and I’ll guarantee that if I come back and read it again next week we’ll find some other things in there we didn’t see as we went through it. That’s the way God’s word is. And if you don’t believe it, that’s God’s word. Some people try to belittle this and they try to say; well it’s the secondary life, you know, it’s not the Bible. And it isn’t. It is a secondary life, but I want to tell you something, it’s easier to read than the Bible. It doesn’t destroy the Bible it doesn’t contradict the Bible. God gave us this prophet because we were too slow to comprehend this. We weren’t following the laws of God so that the mind was clear enough so that we could understand that. God’s Spirit could not work through our minds to open it up to us like He opened it up to her. He could have done it if we had responded to what’s in the book; every last one of us could have been a prophet, every last one. It wasn’t God’s plan that the prophetic instinct should be in only one woman in the last church and it still isn’t. In Joel chapter 2 it says; He’s going to pour out his Spirit, the former rain and the latter rain, right? And He says your sons are not going to prophesy one daughter will prophesy. No, He didn’t say that. He says; Your sons (in the plural) and your daughters (in the plural) so I say there are going to be at least two sons and two daughters, that’s a minimum.

(John) And some old men.

(Wilfred) And some old men are going to dream dreams. Let me point this out, There are three signs of the remnant church, 1. They have patience, the patience of the saints. 2. They keep the Commandments of God. 3. And they have the testimony of Jesus which is The Spirit of prophecy. Those are the three signs of the remnant church. If you’ve got all three of those you are a member of the remnant church.

Now let’s see how we interpret that as Adventists. Good, old-fashioned legal Adventists. We skip over the patience and we start with the second one, And we say, Under the terms of the New Covenant the Spirit of God is going to write the law in the tables of the heart, they won’t be on tables of stone, they will be in the tables of the heart. But we still keep on keeping the tables of the stone we still keep on keeping the law because we have to keep it. If we don’t go to Sabbath School and church each week we are going to go to hell and we don’t want to go to hell so we keep going to church and Sabbath School each week. We still give offerings and if we don’t give offerings the Lord is going to take it out on us, so we give offerings. That’s not the law of God. That’s keeping the law from a self-interested motive. The law of God involves self-denial, the keeping of the law must be based on the love for God, and it must come spontaneously because we want to do it, not because we have to do it. Do you get the point? So, not very many of us are really keeping the law. But the remnant church is going to keep the commandments of God. Not legalistically, and I could read you that too, that when you keep them that way you are not keeping them, in so many words she says it. So not very many of us are really keeping the commandments, let’s be clear on that. That’s why God has to have people coming in the spirit and power of Elias to straighten them out. Now, suppose we are keeping the law, it’s in the tables of the heart. That’s where God wants it to be, the heart will be changed and will spontaneously love to do the things that are right. We just want to do them, we recoil from sin just like Jesus did, He hated evil He couldn’t stand it. May God speed that day for all of us.

Then it says we have the testimony of Jesus, oh, we pride ourselves, why we’ve got 96 volumes or how many is it? And we’ve got them all up on the shelf and most of them have red covers and a few of them have brown ones and yellow ones and they really look pretty and they are up there on the shelf, they’re on the tables of stone. There they are and when we want to know what to do we go and look one up and we say, Oh yes, here it says and now this is what we must do and then we go ahead and do it. Oh, I don’t want to do that, but it says we really need to do that or the judgments of God are going to come upon you if you don’t do it. So, you go and do it contrary to your feelings. The Spirit of Prophecy is also to be in the heart and it goes one step further, The Spirit of Prophecy involves the reception of the Spirit of truth which will do something for you. Remember what it is?

(John) Give you a new heart.

(Wilfred) Yes, and something else. The Spirit of truth will do something for you.

(Several voices at once) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Guide you unto all truth. You will be able to read and understand you will have The Spirit of Prophecy in your heart not on the library shelves. Do you get my point? Now, if you have all three of those things, patience, and it takes persecution, trial and suffering to develop patience. So if you are asking for patience your asking for trouble. Sister White in Early Writings says in one place that we will actually pray for God to give us the cup to drink and the baptism to be baptized with, because it’s the only way we can become holy. And if we want to be holy and are praying for holiness, that’s what we are praying for. And when we recognize that is the only way to be holy, she says that we will actually pray for trouble.

(A woman in the audience) Unintelligible

(Wilfred) Can you purify gold without the fire?

(John) Sister White in her very first vision in Early Writings said, I saw that God’s people had been given a bitter cup to drink, if they do not receive that first draught they must have another which is more bitter than the first and again and again until it does it’s work or they turn away from God.

(Wilfred) She has two or three passages in Early Writings about it, and incidentally some of you folks that haven’t been with us, I should explain that some of these people that are with us here have gone through a whole series of about 15 or 16 meeting we had last winter and this winter we have gone through, this is our eighth one and we built on what we had last winter. So, you are dropping into a situation where you are going on into college and you haven’t finished grade eight with us that is to say. And we have studied some things in lines of truth that you won’t understand, certain things we talk about unless you’ve gone through those and they are not published as such in any of our books. So, you’ll have that little problem and that’s why I made the apology at the beginning of the session that if there is anything that puzzles you or that you don’t follow or you question I would recommend that you just store it away for a while until you have had an opportunity to get it clear. Avoid discussing it with somebody who has not had the background that we have gone through to understand it because all it will do is cause a problem unless the individual is very open minded and that’s a rare thing. Most Adventist are narrow minded, quite narrow. We have been steeped in the truth for so many years and the master understands that and He defined that to us in the Laodicean message. He hit it right on the head, He said you think you are rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing, that’s Adventists right to a tee. I’ve heard it from the pulpit up here a number of times. We have the truth, we have the message, we don’t need any new message, we’re just waiting for the Lord to come. We’ve got to finish the work, let’s get the Gospel out. Well Brothers and Sisters the finishing of the work doesn’t mean getting the Gospel out to every nation, tongue and people. That’s just the last sign; the finishing of the Gospel is the work in the heart. What’s the use of preaching the Gospel if it doesn’t do any work. What’s the purpose of preaching the Gospel anyway?

(John) It’s the restoration of God’s Kingdom.

(Wilfred) The restoration of God’s Kingdom in the heart. That’s right. The Gospel is the power of God says Paul unto salvation, not in sin, from sin, to all that believe, That’s the Gospel and when we get that job done getting it to all the earth is just going to be for a witness, that’s what it says. This Gospel of the kingdom shall go into all the world. What for?

(John) For a witness.

(Wilfred) For a witness and then shall the end come.

Any questions that anybody would like to ask? Don’t ask me any impossible ones. If you are doubtful ask it anyway.

(A woman in the audience) You said that Jesus was incarnated and came to this earth to Bethlehem in the same nature as men at that time, how did you state that.

(Wilfred) Yes, I don’t have my materials on that tonight.

(Same woman in the audience) But in Hebrews chapter 2 verse 9 it says; “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”

(Wilfred) Yes. And what do you think that means? 

(Same woman in the audience) Well, I get the picture that He came with more of a perfected nature. 

(John) His body was a degenerated body. Sister White has a number of statements....

(Wilfred) The Bible has to.

(John) This is where, it is one of those contradictions. It says in one place that He was made sin for us, yet He was without sin. Sin is the decision of the will but His flesh was mortal. That statement is here in The Spirit of Prophecy. In other words it was subject to death, the flesh that He had was the same flesh that we have. And He didn’t come in the stature of fourteen feet tall as Adam had and the covering of light.

(Wilfred) That’s right.

(John) He came with the physical degeneracy’s that were inherent in the human race when He appeared upon this earth. I have quite a few statements that are in The Bible Commentary on that. If you would like me to gather them I would be happy to do that.

(Wilfred) Would you like to have that incorporated in a study next week?

(John) Sure.

(Wilfred) How about the rest of you, would you be interested? Some of you have heard it before I suppose. How many would be interested in that? If there is enough of us we’ll do it. Ok, I’ll dig those out and bring them in next week. Can you be here?

(Same woman in the audience) I’ll sure try.

(Wilfred) Well, if you can’t it’ll get on the tape anyway and then you can listen to it there. I’m just trying to find where the Bible says this, I have such a very poor memory for locations of texts, certain ones that I use all the time I can remember but those that I don’t, I forget, and I don’t have my concordance here. Do you remember where the text is John, that talks about his taking on the same nature as we have?

(John) Well Romans 8 verse 3 I think is as plain as any text on that.

(Larry) Hebrews 2:14.

(Wilfred) Yes, there’s one in Hebrews, that’s where I was looking.

(John) Shall we read the one in Romans 8 verse 3, it says; “For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh” and what was the text that you mentioned?

(Larry) Hebrews 2:14

(John) Do you want to read it Bother Johnson?

(Wilfred) “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;” In other words Jesus took part of the same flesh and blood that we have. “That through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;”

(Another man in the audience) For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

(Wilfred) That’s good, that’s good. He didn’t take on him the nature of angels; He took on him the seed of Abraham. That’s Hebrews 2:16. Now Christ was made a little lower than the angels but so is man you see. But he is going to be exulted ultimately. 

(Same man) Verse 17 also.

(Wilfred) Yes, I think that’s the one I was looking for. “Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.”

(Same woman) ....I have heard him referred to as the second Adam.

(Wilfred and John) He was the second Adam.

(Wilfred) But He was the second Adam in a human degenerate body. He was the second Adam in the sense Adam means the first, the first one. He became the first one of a new race made up of divinity and humanity combined. And He is going to create a new body of Christ, made up of divinity and humanity combined in a human body.

(John) Brother Johnson here are some statements from The SDA Bible Commentary volume 5, page 1127. It says; “But He humbled Himself, and took mortality upon Him. As a member of the human family, He was mortal;” And the word ‘mortal' means that he was subject to death. It says, .... “He could, in His divine person, ever have withstood the advances of death, and refused to come under its dominion; but He voluntarily laid down His life, that in so doing He might give life and bring immortality to light."

(Wilfred) What page did you say that was?

(John) Line 5 page 1127. And further on it says; “Wondrous combination of man and God! He might have helped His human nature to withstand the inroads of disease by pouring from His divine nature vitality and undecaying vigor to the human. But He humbled Himself to man's nature.”

(Wilfred) Very good. There are quite a few statements and some of them appear quite contradictory with reference to this and that’s why there are two opinions among theologians in our denomination, some take one side and some take the other side.

But we will try next week to show you how that those two fit together, there is no contradiction they really fit. It’s just a matter of some folks coming to the wrong conclusion and there may be various reasons for that.

Well, I think it’s just about the two hours, I think we should call it a day and I promised I wouldn’t go over like I did the last time and tire everybody out.

(The end of this five C/D series on The Two Witnesses And The Elijah Message)


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